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    So, you may (or may not) know of Olber's Paradox - which essentially asks why the night sky isn't uniformly bright as, were it infinite, there would be nmo point in the sky with no star. I was reading about this and came across this prose:

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    Were the succession of stars endless, then the background of the sky would present us an uniform luminosity, like that displayed by the Galaxy - since there could be absolutely no point, in all that background, at which would not exist a star. The only mode, therefore, in which, under such a state of affairs, we could comprehend the voids which our telescopes find in innumerable directions, would be by supposing the distance of the invisible background so immense that no ray from it has yet been able to reach us at all.

    Bonus points to anyone who can guess who said it, without recourse to google searching the interwebs.

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      So, you may (or may not) know of Olber's Paradox - which essentially asks why the night sky isn't uniformly bright as, were it infinite, there would be nmo point in the sky with no star. I was reading about this and came across this prose:

      Quote:

      Were the succession of stars endless, then the background of the sky would present us an uniform luminosity, like that displayed by the Galaxy - since there could be absolutely no point, in all that background, at which would not exist a star. The only mode, therefore, in which, under such a state of affairs, we could comprehend the voids which our telescopes find in innumerable directions, would be by supposing the distance of the invisible background so immense that no ray from it has yet been able to reach us at all.

      Bonus points to anyone who can guess who said it, without recourse to google searching the interwebs.

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      Mike Hankey
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      Carl Sagan?

      Along with Antimatter and Dark Matter they've discovered the existence of Doesn't Matter which appears to have no effect on the universe whatsoever! Rich Tennant 5th Wave

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        So, you may (or may not) know of Olber's Paradox - which essentially asks why the night sky isn't uniformly bright as, were it infinite, there would be nmo point in the sky with no star. I was reading about this and came across this prose:

        Quote:

        Were the succession of stars endless, then the background of the sky would present us an uniform luminosity, like that displayed by the Galaxy - since there could be absolutely no point, in all that background, at which would not exist a star. The only mode, therefore, in which, under such a state of affairs, we could comprehend the voids which our telescopes find in innumerable directions, would be by supposing the distance of the invisible background so immense that no ray from it has yet been able to reach us at all.

        Bonus points to anyone who can guess who said it, without recourse to google searching the interwebs.

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        Interesting theory. Perhaps light disperses enough that at such distances we can no longer see it? Space must go on forever, right? If it ended, such as running into a wall in a room, what would be on the other side of the wall? Fun to think about. I'm going to go start counting the stars. :)

        There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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          Interesting theory. Perhaps light disperses enough that at such distances we can no longer see it? Space must go on forever, right? If it ended, such as running into a wall in a room, what would be on the other side of the wall? Fun to think about. I'm going to go start counting the stars. :)

          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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          RyanDev wrote:

          Space must go on forever, right?

          Maybe. There is a theory that the universe is a giant four dimensional sphere, making the "end of the universe" idea much like the old "edge of the world" theory. If this is true, if a spaceship set out from earth, it would eventually circle around through the fourth dimension and come back to earth, just like Magellan sailed around earth in the third dimension. Still, its only a hypothesis...

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            RyanDev wrote:

            Space must go on forever, right?

            Maybe. There is a theory that the universe is a giant four dimensional sphere, making the "end of the universe" idea much like the old "edge of the world" theory. If this is true, if a spaceship set out from earth, it would eventually circle around through the fourth dimension and come back to earth, just like Magellan sailed around earth in the third dimension. Still, its only a hypothesis...

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            if a spaceship set out from earth, it would eventually circle around through the fourth dimension and come back to earth

            Politics is full of test subjects. I say we try it. :-D

            There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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              Carl Sagan?

              Along with Antimatter and Dark Matter they've discovered the existence of Doesn't Matter which appears to have no effect on the universe whatsoever! Rich Tennant 5th Wave

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              Nope. Good guess - but way off the mark

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                if a spaceship set out from earth, it would eventually circle around through the fourth dimension and come back to earth

                Politics is full of test subjects. I say we try it. :-D

                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                Mitchell J
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                Lol. Interesting to note that there's no joke icon on your message... :rolleyes:

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                • L Lost User

                  So, you may (or may not) know of Olber's Paradox - which essentially asks why the night sky isn't uniformly bright as, were it infinite, there would be nmo point in the sky with no star. I was reading about this and came across this prose:

                  Quote:

                  Were the succession of stars endless, then the background of the sky would present us an uniform luminosity, like that displayed by the Galaxy - since there could be absolutely no point, in all that background, at which would not exist a star. The only mode, therefore, in which, under such a state of affairs, we could comprehend the voids which our telescopes find in innumerable directions, would be by supposing the distance of the invisible background so immense that no ray from it has yet been able to reach us at all.

                  Bonus points to anyone who can guess who said it, without recourse to google searching the interwebs.

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                  Penrose? Dave.

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                    Interesting theory. Perhaps light disperses enough that at such distances we can no longer see it? Space must go on forever, right? If it ended, such as running into a wall in a room, what would be on the other side of the wall? Fun to think about. I'm going to go start counting the stars. :)

                    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                    RyanDev wrote:

                    Perhaps light disperses enough that at such distances we can no longer see it?

                    perhaps - but there is not evidence to suggest that individual photons 'diminish' over distance. Obviously teh light in general diminishes as it is spread out into an ever increasing sphere.

                    RyanDev wrote:

                    Space must go on forever, right?

                    Not 'must'. Intuitively that's how we think, but it's not necessarily the case. Much of the issue is in the terminology, really. Whether you subscribe to the big bang, or the god made everything theory, you tend to talk about 'before'. But if space-time was created at some point, then time was created, so there is no 'before' As for the wall, well, if the speed of light in a vacuum truly is an absolute and it is just not possible to exceed it, then from an individual's point of view the universe is finite with a radius equal to (C x age of the universe) because any information from father away than that is impossible to receive. As distant galaxies more away from us faster than C, the size of the observable universe is essentially finite - just because we can't possibly, ever, see beyond it. One could imaging being born an a planet right on the 'edge' of the observable universe, and could ask what you would see if you looked away from the origin of the big bang - but my understanding (which could be way off) is that there just isn't such an object. Wherever you are you will see everything expanding away from you - so nobody is sitting at the edge, looking at a big blank wall.

                    RyanDev wrote:

                    Fun to think about.

                    true Dat (as the kids say)

                    RyanDev wrote:

                    I'm going to go start counting the stars.

                    Good luck with that!

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                      Penrose? Dave.

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                      Nope - not even close. Someone you really wouldn't think of (or, more accurately, I wouldn't have thought of)...

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                        So, you may (or may not) know of Olber's Paradox - which essentially asks why the night sky isn't uniformly bright as, were it infinite, there would be nmo point in the sky with no star. I was reading about this and came across this prose:

                        Quote:

                        Were the succession of stars endless, then the background of the sky would present us an uniform luminosity, like that displayed by the Galaxy - since there could be absolutely no point, in all that background, at which would not exist a star. The only mode, therefore, in which, under such a state of affairs, we could comprehend the voids which our telescopes find in innumerable directions, would be by supposing the distance of the invisible background so immense that no ray from it has yet been able to reach us at all.

                        Bonus points to anyone who can guess who said it, without recourse to google searching the interwebs.

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                        Tell me what thy lordly name is on the Night's Plutonian shore! Quoth the raven, "Nevermore." Haven't read anything by him in years! Hmm...is he available in ePub...?

                        Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                          Tell me what thy lordly name is on the Night's Plutonian shore! Quoth the raven, "Nevermore." Haven't read anything by him in years! Hmm...is he available in ePub...?

                          Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                          Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before! I'd give you an up-vote for your jolly Welsh cleverness - but you have far too many points, so I'll randomly up-vote another post in a charitable act on your behalf!

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                            So, you may (or may not) know of Olber's Paradox - which essentially asks why the night sky isn't uniformly bright as, were it infinite, there would be nmo point in the sky with no star. I was reading about this and came across this prose:

                            Quote:

                            Were the succession of stars endless, then the background of the sky would present us an uniform luminosity, like that displayed by the Galaxy - since there could be absolutely no point, in all that background, at which would not exist a star. The only mode, therefore, in which, under such a state of affairs, we could comprehend the voids which our telescopes find in innumerable directions, would be by supposing the distance of the invisible background so immense that no ray from it has yet been able to reach us at all.

                            Bonus points to anyone who can guess who said it, without recourse to google searching the interwebs.

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                            Roger Wright
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                            Who cares who said it? It's obvious to a casual observer that random patches of dark matter are drifting about, sucking up spots of starlight that would otherwise be plainly visible.

                            Will Rogers never met me.

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                              So, you may (or may not) know of Olber's Paradox - which essentially asks why the night sky isn't uniformly bright as, were it infinite, there would be nmo point in the sky with no star. I was reading about this and came across this prose:

                              Quote:

                              Were the succession of stars endless, then the background of the sky would present us an uniform luminosity, like that displayed by the Galaxy - since there could be absolutely no point, in all that background, at which would not exist a star. The only mode, therefore, in which, under such a state of affairs, we could comprehend the voids which our telescopes find in innumerable directions, would be by supposing the distance of the invisible background so immense that no ray from it has yet been able to reach us at all.

                              Bonus points to anyone who can guess who said it, without recourse to google searching the interwebs.

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                              Edwin Hubble?

                              “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                              ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                Who cares who said it? It's obvious to a casual observer that random patches of dark matter are drifting about, sucking up spots of starlight that would otherwise be plainly visible.

                                Will Rogers never met me.

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                                Roger Wright wrote:

                                random patches of dark matter

                                But are you sure it's random? Bahhh bahh Baahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

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                                  Edwin Hubble?

                                  “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                  ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                  Nope. OG got it above ^ (though I bet he googled!)

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                                    Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before! I'd give you an up-vote for your jolly Welsh cleverness - but you have far too many points, so I'll randomly up-vote another post in a charitable act on your behalf!

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                                    _Maxxx_ wrote:

                                    I'll randomly up-vote another post in a charitable act on your behalf!

                                    :thumbsup: A charitable donation! Hopefully, it will go to feed a homeless blind victim of pope-abuse. ;)

                                    Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

                                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                      Nope. OG got it above ^ (though I bet he googled!)

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                                      Nah - I visit QA, and you aren't allowed to google if you go there... :laugh:

                                      Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

                                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                        So, you may (or may not) know of Olber's Paradox - which essentially asks why the night sky isn't uniformly bright as, were it infinite, there would be nmo point in the sky with no star. I was reading about this and came across this prose:

                                        Quote:

                                        Were the succession of stars endless, then the background of the sky would present us an uniform luminosity, like that displayed by the Galaxy - since there could be absolutely no point, in all that background, at which would not exist a star. The only mode, therefore, in which, under such a state of affairs, we could comprehend the voids which our telescopes find in innumerable directions, would be by supposing the distance of the invisible background so immense that no ray from it has yet been able to reach us at all.

                                        Bonus points to anyone who can guess who said it, without recourse to google searching the interwebs.

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                                        Easy. Paris Hilton in her famous treatise "Thoughts rattling around the empty spaces"

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                                          So, you may (or may not) know of Olber's Paradox - which essentially asks why the night sky isn't uniformly bright as, were it infinite, there would be nmo point in the sky with no star. I was reading about this and came across this prose:

                                          Quote:

                                          Were the succession of stars endless, then the background of the sky would present us an uniform luminosity, like that displayed by the Galaxy - since there could be absolutely no point, in all that background, at which would not exist a star. The only mode, therefore, in which, under such a state of affairs, we could comprehend the voids which our telescopes find in innumerable directions, would be by supposing the distance of the invisible background so immense that no ray from it has yet been able to reach us at all.

                                          Bonus points to anyone who can guess who said it, without recourse to google searching the interwebs.

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                                          That's the first verse of Firework by Katy Perry.

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