Android Development

[Lost User]

Kevin Marois wrote:

I would never have thought to Google it

Strangely enough that's what most of us thought.

[Kevin Marois]

If you're going to post an annoying snotty response, at least quote me right

If it's not broken, fix it until it is

[Yuriy Loginov]

I personally use Java to build android apps. For an IDE you can use Eclipse with Android plug ins. I believe you can download eclipse with all the plugins already installed. Google recently came out with Android Studio IDE, but I haven't personally tried it out. If you are starting from scratch may be worth investigating that option. Finally you will need to set up some emulators. The default ones are pretty slow and I strongly recommend you get Intel ones, just look for HAXM emulators

[Munchies_Matt]

Lloyd Atkinson wrote:

Xamarin so you can use C#/.NET

That compiles to Java bytecode does it?

"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold

[LloydA111]

I think it does yes.

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[Munchies_Matt]

That's pretty cool. That isn't an MSFT tool then is it? How does it work using the C# language, is there some sort of license with MSFT? Because MSFT have bought Nokia and want to push WIndows CE so its surprising they support ANdroid.

"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold

[Vark111]

Android studio is based on JetBrains IDEA. You can also go download the Community Edition of JetBrains IDEA. I highly recommend it. I've used a number of IDE's and JetBrains are hands-down the best this side of Visual Studio.

[Dave Calkins]

The recommended/default tool stack is the Eclipse IDE with the ADT Plugin writing code in Java. You can follow the instructions at the below link to get setup and get help creating your first app. Lots of good info there. Building Your First App[^] There are other approaches like Xamarin (which MS recently bought and is apparently integrated with VS nicely) as someone else posted. That has the advantage of developing for multiple platforms. Just depends how you want to do it.

[Mitchell J]

If you're feeling adventurous you can do what I did[^] back in December... :-D Phonegap is awesome to work with, in my opinion.

[Mark_Wallace]

He did. When you quote a book, you don't quote the entire book.

I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

[AlphaDeltaTheta]

Munchies_Matt wrote:

That compiles to Java bytecode does it?

Nope, that compiles to MSIL. There is a Mono interpreter inside it too... Microsoft made C# an ISO Spec, it's open to use by anyone... there has been a hell lot of apps running in Linuxes using C#/Mono

Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas. Carl von Clausewitz Source

[Munchies_Matt]

Ahh, there is a MSIL byte code translator. OK. Well, MSIL is probably close to byte code anyway; didn't J++ run on .net unmodified?

ΑlphaΔeltaΘheta wrote:

Microsoft made C# an ISO Spec, it's open to use by anyone... there has been a hell lot of apps running in Linuxes using C#/Mono

OK, interesting, didn't know that.

"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold

[Rob Philpott]

Agreed. Not seen that before and very informative.

Regards, Rob Philpott.

[Lost User]

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[AlphaDeltaTheta]

MSIL is different from Java bytecode. Android gives the option for native apps (unlike that Microsoft's Mango). Android has pre-installed support for Java with dalvik. For MSIL you need MonoTouch or something similar. It is like a whole CLR with AOT compilation applied to it in some versions.

Munchies_Matt wrote:

OK. Well, MSIL is probably close to byte code anyway; didn't J++ run on .net unmodified?

Similar probably. By the time I started learning how a compiler works, J++ had been dead already. No idea:confused:

Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas. Carl von Clausewitz Source

[Munchies_Matt]

ΑlphaΔeltaΘheta wrote:

J++ had been dead already

I recall some discussion of it some time back, how J++, which was supposed to be Java standard'(ish) could run on .net unmodified. Thanks for the clarification though, I don't venture out of the kernel much, ,windows and Linux, so its nice to catch up on stuff like this. :)

"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold