Windows XP
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Today I did it. I installed WinXP RC1 on my workstation at home :cool: I have to say it's kinda different, and I still don't know if I like it, but I guess time will tell. Anybody else out there that have tried (or use) WinXP? About the activation stuff: The first time I booted WinXP, I was told I needed to activate it. Okay I thought, I have tried this at work with Beta 2, and it took about 2 seconds. I clicked next a couple of times, and waited about 2 minutes. No connection to MS :( Later tonight I tried a couple of times with the same result. At 9pm friday night I thought, let's see if I can activate by phone right now, just for the "fun" of it. I actually talked to a very nice lady, gave her a loooong number, and got an almost as long number in return, and it just worked :) People can say what they want, but to me it seems MS is making an effort to make it easy to activate WinXP (or maybe I was just lucky) ;) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
Finally now in XP there are no color limitations in icons and no support for alpha transparency, look good and this will make more people to move from WinME to XP which is very good because the Win9X series was like a horror movie series :eek:, thanks to NT platform on which is based Win2K and XP. :cool: The activation stuff in Office XP and WinXP is a stupid thing because it won't stop hackers to make a good crack for it (they already did it X|). I think this activation thing should be thrown out from XP it is completly useless and user time consuming :mad:.
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Today I did it. I installed WinXP RC1 on my workstation at home :cool: I have to say it's kinda different, and I still don't know if I like it, but I guess time will tell. Anybody else out there that have tried (or use) WinXP? About the activation stuff: The first time I booted WinXP, I was told I needed to activate it. Okay I thought, I have tried this at work with Beta 2, and it took about 2 seconds. I clicked next a couple of times, and waited about 2 minutes. No connection to MS :( Later tonight I tried a couple of times with the same result. At 9pm friday night I thought, let's see if I can activate by phone right now, just for the "fun" of it. I actually talked to a very nice lady, gave her a loooong number, and got an almost as long number in return, and it just worked :) People can say what they want, but to me it seems MS is making an effort to make it easy to activate WinXP (or maybe I was just lucky) ;) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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Have had it here for quite a while. Impressions: 1. Slow 2. Cutsy interface harder to use than standard Win2K 3. Hate default colors Mike Dunn said it well on the color/interface front. "Reminds one of Fisher Price toys..." Ed
It's not slow on my pc (600MHz, 384MB Ram), the speed is a lot like Win2k. I have changed the colors to "Silver", because the original blue one was a bit to plastic-like :| Othervise I'm actually starting to like it, now I just need to make my own applications support the new GUI... I have to say that I LOVE the "Fast User Switching". Both myself and my wife uses the same pc, and it's great not to have to log out if she needs to use the pc :) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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Finally now in XP there are no color limitations in icons and no support for alpha transparency, look good and this will make more people to move from WinME to XP which is very good because the Win9X series was like a horror movie series :eek:, thanks to NT platform on which is based Win2K and XP. :cool: The activation stuff in Office XP and WinXP is a stupid thing because it won't stop hackers to make a good crack for it (they already did it X|). I think this activation thing should be thrown out from XP it is completly useless and user time consuming :mad:.
I think this activation thing should be thrown out from XP it is completely useless. Actually, it is extremely effective at stopping OEM vendors from hard loading the OS onto multiple machines, and everyday users like you and me from taking it round a mates house and letting them install it - both of which loose Microsoft and other software companies millions of pounds a year. Anybody can crack anything if they put their mind into it - that is not the point. The WPA system was designed to stop the casual theft, and it does this very effectively, and in the majority of cases, very easily. David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
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I think this activation thing should be thrown out from XP it is completely useless. Actually, it is extremely effective at stopping OEM vendors from hard loading the OS onto multiple machines, and everyday users like you and me from taking it round a mates house and letting them install it - both of which loose Microsoft and other software companies millions of pounds a year. Anybody can crack anything if they put their mind into it - that is not the point. The WPA system was designed to stop the casual theft, and it does this very effectively, and in the majority of cases, very easily. David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
This thing like the dongle protection is completly useless ! Office XP is available on warez sites cracked and already activated, so you don't need to activate it anymore, and WinXP RC1 is already cracked and the release version will be cracked as soon as it will be released and then OEM vendors can install it as many times as they want and the users who will buy it they just have to lose time activating the product all the time they add new hardware into their computers. To stop piracy is much harder than MS thinks and what they are trying to do is wrong, they will just annoy customers with this activation.
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It's not slow on my pc (600MHz, 384MB Ram), the speed is a lot like Win2k. I have changed the colors to "Silver", because the original blue one was a bit to plastic-like :| Othervise I'm actually starting to like it, now I just need to make my own applications support the new GUI... I have to say that I LOVE the "Fast User Switching". Both myself and my wife uses the same pc, and it's great not to have to log out if she needs to use the pc :) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
On this 1 GHz PC, XP is noticeable slower than Win2K. I also changed to default Windows color scheme as well. The switch user is a nice feature, but unused here. I have all versions of windows installed and bootable on this PC, so comparisions are much easier. Boot cycle takes at least twice as long. I normally use Win2K. Ed
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On this 1 GHz PC, XP is noticeable slower than Win2K. I also changed to default Windows color scheme as well. The switch user is a nice feature, but unused here. I have all versions of windows installed and bootable on this PC, so comparisions are much easier. Boot cycle takes at least twice as long. I normally use Win2K. Ed
Strange... It's not because I'm trying to say that WinXP is the greates thing since DOS, there's things I don't like about it. But on my pc it boots faster than Win2k, and the overall speed is about the same... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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On this 1 GHz PC, XP is noticeable slower than Win2K. I also changed to default Windows color scheme as well. The switch user is a nice feature, but unused here. I have all versions of windows installed and bootable on this PC, so comparisions are much easier. Boot cycle takes at least twice as long. I normally use Win2K. Ed
If you are using XP RC1, you should go to Windows Update, there's an update that handle some performance problems :) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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I feel exactly the same way. I have programmed for nothing but Win32 for the last several years, and have invested a great amount of time becoming proficient in Win32 SDK, MFC, ATL, and COM. After installing and activating the latest versions of Office and Visio, I found myself strolling through Solaris' web site trying to figure out just how much work it would be to install and start using it as my primary OS. As a software developer, I have very strong feelings about piracy in any form, but at the same time, a large amount of money has been paid to Microsoft to provide me with an MSDN subscription. The fact that I now have to activate some of the components in that dev pack, reguardless of the amount paid, really rubs me the wrong way. I also hate the fact that, as you pointed out, replacing hardware components on my system could cause activation issues to arise the next time the system is rebuilt.
Well said, I second (or third) that. -Ben --------- On the topic of code with no error handling -- It's not poor coding, it's "optimistic" ;)
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This thing like the dongle protection is completly useless ! Office XP is available on warez sites cracked and already activated, so you don't need to activate it anymore, and WinXP RC1 is already cracked and the release version will be cracked as soon as it will be released and then OEM vendors can install it as many times as they want and the users who will buy it they just have to lose time activating the product all the time they add new hardware into their computers. To stop piracy is much harder than MS thinks and what they are trying to do is wrong, they will just annoy customers with this activation.
WPA is designed to stop casual copying. Anybody who really wants to get around it can do, but it requires a fair bit of effort on his or her behalf. If you are willing to download something like Windows XP or the full CD set for Office XP, or you are going to mass-burn the software for sale down at your local market, WPA is only going to be a nuisance, nothing more. But it will still cause problems. Remember what happened when Office 2000 and Windows 2000 keys started appearing on the net? Microsoft released SP1 for the respective product, and all the little kiddies who’d downloaded it found their illegal copies of the software suddenly deactivating and they wouldn’t run. You can be sure to expect the same with XP. Warez isn’t worth the trouble in the long run. they will just annoy customers with this activation. What I always find funny is that all the newgroups, etc, are filling up with messages like: This Microsoft Activation thingy is f**king sh*t. NOW I CAN’T INSTALL IT ON ALL MY PC’s!!!!!! They are just trying to steal MY money!!!!! Damn you M$. I’ve given up informing these people that they are actually required by law to do so anyway as they wont accept it. It’s like all the college kids have law degrees. I have yet to hear a complaint from a legitimate user. I trialed WPA with Office 2000 - it is not a nuisance at all. And OEM vendors who hard load Windows XP or Office XP onto their machines are liable for hefty fines and prison sentences. Microsoft will now be able to crack down on OEM vendors more efficiently as they will know if they have activated the software, and if so how many licenses have been issued. Prepare to see lots more news articles about OEM vendors using unlicensed software being brought to justice. Lots more. - David Wulff P.S. AFAIK, WPA was not cracked for Office XP or Windows XP RC1. All of the so-called ‘cracks’ simply replace the encrypted data file (the one containing the system info, etc) with a copy generated by a machine activated with the Enterprise key. Saying that is cracking is like saying you cracked a safe when you had the code. P.P.S. I don’t intend to imply anything about your use of the software in question with this response – I leave that to the reader to decide.
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WPA is designed to stop casual copying. Anybody who really wants to get around it can do, but it requires a fair bit of effort on his or her behalf. If you are willing to download something like Windows XP or the full CD set for Office XP, or you are going to mass-burn the software for sale down at your local market, WPA is only going to be a nuisance, nothing more. But it will still cause problems. Remember what happened when Office 2000 and Windows 2000 keys started appearing on the net? Microsoft released SP1 for the respective product, and all the little kiddies who’d downloaded it found their illegal copies of the software suddenly deactivating and they wouldn’t run. You can be sure to expect the same with XP. Warez isn’t worth the trouble in the long run. they will just annoy customers with this activation. What I always find funny is that all the newgroups, etc, are filling up with messages like: This Microsoft Activation thingy is f**king sh*t. NOW I CAN’T INSTALL IT ON ALL MY PC’s!!!!!! They are just trying to steal MY money!!!!! Damn you M$. I’ve given up informing these people that they are actually required by law to do so anyway as they wont accept it. It’s like all the college kids have law degrees. I have yet to hear a complaint from a legitimate user. I trialed WPA with Office 2000 - it is not a nuisance at all. And OEM vendors who hard load Windows XP or Office XP onto their machines are liable for hefty fines and prison sentences. Microsoft will now be able to crack down on OEM vendors more efficiently as they will know if they have activated the software, and if so how many licenses have been issued. Prepare to see lots more news articles about OEM vendors using unlicensed software being brought to justice. Lots more. - David Wulff P.S. AFAIK, WPA was not cracked for Office XP or Windows XP RC1. All of the so-called ‘cracks’ simply replace the encrypted data file (the one containing the system info, etc) with a copy generated by a machine activated with the Enterprise key. Saying that is cracking is like saying you cracked a safe when you had the code. P.P.S. I don’t intend to imply anything about your use of the software in question with this response – I leave that to the reader to decide.
I don't have anything against a good solution for software pircay, but useless key activations does not make sense. With this activation thing microsoft wants to collect it's customers information in it's database to make better decisions based on statistical information from this database. P.S. I don't want M$ to use my information to track/log my hotmail.com, Windows, Office and surfing usage...:eek:
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I don't have anything against a good solution for software pircay, but useless key activations does not make sense. With this activation thing microsoft wants to collect it's customers information in it's database to make better decisions based on statistical information from this database. P.S. I don't want M$ to use my information to track/log my hotmail.com, Windows, Office and surfing usage...:eek:
microsoft wants to collect it's customers information in it's database...... You have to Activate windows XP, not register it. I have activated WinXP RC1, but MS don't know who I am... What data did you say they wanted to use??? - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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WPA is designed to stop casual copying. Anybody who really wants to get around it can do, but it requires a fair bit of effort on his or her behalf. If you are willing to download something like Windows XP or the full CD set for Office XP, or you are going to mass-burn the software for sale down at your local market, WPA is only going to be a nuisance, nothing more. But it will still cause problems. Remember what happened when Office 2000 and Windows 2000 keys started appearing on the net? Microsoft released SP1 for the respective product, and all the little kiddies who’d downloaded it found their illegal copies of the software suddenly deactivating and they wouldn’t run. You can be sure to expect the same with XP. Warez isn’t worth the trouble in the long run. they will just annoy customers with this activation. What I always find funny is that all the newgroups, etc, are filling up with messages like: This Microsoft Activation thingy is f**king sh*t. NOW I CAN’T INSTALL IT ON ALL MY PC’s!!!!!! They are just trying to steal MY money!!!!! Damn you M$. I’ve given up informing these people that they are actually required by law to do so anyway as they wont accept it. It’s like all the college kids have law degrees. I have yet to hear a complaint from a legitimate user. I trialed WPA with Office 2000 - it is not a nuisance at all. And OEM vendors who hard load Windows XP or Office XP onto their machines are liable for hefty fines and prison sentences. Microsoft will now be able to crack down on OEM vendors more efficiently as they will know if they have activated the software, and if so how many licenses have been issued. Prepare to see lots more news articles about OEM vendors using unlicensed software being brought to justice. Lots more. - David Wulff P.S. AFAIK, WPA was not cracked for Office XP or Windows XP RC1. All of the so-called ‘cracks’ simply replace the encrypted data file (the one containing the system info, etc) with a copy generated by a machine activated with the Enterprise key. Saying that is cracking is like saying you cracked a safe when you had the code. P.P.S. I don’t intend to imply anything about your use of the software in question with this response – I leave that to the reader to decide.
Hi David, Great to hear someone who's not in paranoia mode :) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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I don't have anything against a good solution for software pircay, but useless key activations does not make sense. With this activation thing microsoft wants to collect it's customers information in it's database to make better decisions based on statistical information from this database. P.S. I don't want M$ to use my information to track/log my hotmail.com, Windows, Office and surfing usage...:eek:
They can't and they wont. If they did they would be effectively commiting suicide (not even Uncle Billy is that stupid). David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
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Hi David, Great to hear someone who's not in paranoia mode :) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
I am just so fed up with all this misinformation flooding the net. I know I haven't got all of the details, but speaking from experience and what I do know (or have heard from reliable sources), WPA is the illegitimate users enemy - and nothing to worry about for the legitimate users out there (all three of us :)). Of course, this doesn’t mean I have to like Windows XP. To me it looks like Microsoft have been reading AOL’s marketing strategies... I'm just waiting for the ginger haired cybernetic woman to appear on the TV :-D. David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
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microsoft wants to collect it's customers information in it's database...... You have to Activate windows XP, not register it. I have activated WinXP RC1, but MS don't know who I am... What data did you say they wanted to use??? - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
You have to Activate windows XP, not register it That is the biggest problem Microsoft will have to face. So many of it's current customers, and potential customers, don't understand the difference between anonymous activation and non-anonymous registration (last time I checked you only had to give your name and country anyway - hardly an invasion of privacy). I suppose the fact they both end in "tion" confuses all those poor AOL users people who don't have access to a dictionary. Poor Microsoft - they damned if they do, damned if they don't :rolleyes:. David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
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If you are using XP RC1, you should go to Windows Update, there's an update that handle some performance problems :) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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Today I did it. I installed WinXP RC1 on my workstation at home :cool: I have to say it's kinda different, and I still don't know if I like it, but I guess time will tell. Anybody else out there that have tried (or use) WinXP? About the activation stuff: The first time I booted WinXP, I was told I needed to activate it. Okay I thought, I have tried this at work with Beta 2, and it took about 2 seconds. I clicked next a couple of times, and waited about 2 minutes. No connection to MS :( Later tonight I tried a couple of times with the same result. At 9pm friday night I thought, let's see if I can activate by phone right now, just for the "fun" of it. I actually talked to a very nice lady, gave her a loooong number, and got an almost as long number in return, and it just worked :) People can say what they want, but to me it seems MS is making an effort to make it easy to activate WinXP (or maybe I was just lucky) ;) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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Have had it here for quite a while. Impressions: 1. Slow 2. Cutsy interface harder to use than standard Win2K 3. Hate default colors Mike Dunn said it well on the color/interface front. "Reminds one of Fisher Price toys..." Ed
For my computer at least (500AMDK6 128MB) XP RC1 is the smoothest operating Microsoft OS I have ever run on it. I get great speed, much faster than ME and 2K that I had run in the past, also there is noticably less disk thrashing. It also boots up a whole lot faster. My only problem so far is that Quicktime 5.0 won't run inplace in IE 6. Not crippling, but I never got to see the Password Bra add on adcritic.:-D When religion and politics help drive the same cart, they tend to drive faster and faster until it is too late to stop when they see the cliff ahead -- Frank Herbert.