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  • L Lost User

    I'm thinking about getting a mobile phone. I'm not sure what type of phone to buy. I know next to nothing about these phones. I've impressions and I'll share them here. Don't get upset if you're a cultist of one sort or another - I've already admitted that I don't know. Windows Phone My impression is that these guys have a bit of improvement to make and that the experience isn't as polished as the iPhone. That said, I like the tiles - the UI, oddly enough, seems cleaner to me and I find that appealing. I also like the idea that I'll learn a bit about the Windows 8 way of doing things which might come in handy in the future. iPhone The more mature, polished experience - and yet, the UI seems clunky to me. There might be TOO much going on here and I'm not really excited about buying into the whole Apple ecosystem. Probably the better over all phone but I don't need a new religion either. I dunno... any thoughts?

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    dan sh
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    I have used Symbian (remember?) and Android. I have colleagues using Windows phone and iPhone. Last OS upgrade from Apple created chaos. So the guys I know hate it. Still, they are entrapped in "Look, I got iPhone!" feeling. I don't get it. Windows phone guys compare it with Android and talk of performance. I have Nexus 5 and I do not see any significant differences. I do not care about that ever valuable nanosecond. I will recommend Android as the market is good and you can get almost any app you want on the phone. Windows and iOS are lacking, I feel, on that front. You mentioned you like tiles so, latest Android upgrade switched contacts view to tiles.

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      Whichever way you go, be sure to get this MUST-HAVE accessory! PowerUp 3.0 Smartphone Controlled Paper Airplane[^]

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      Tom Clement
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      Sadly, WP isn't a supported platform. Actually, (although I have a WP and like it) that's a pretty good argument for iPhone. If you want an app for controlling your paper airplanes (or some other new thing), you'll need iPhone.

      Tom Clement articles[^]

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      • L Lost User

        I'm thinking about getting a mobile phone. I'm not sure what type of phone to buy. I know next to nothing about these phones. I've impressions and I'll share them here. Don't get upset if you're a cultist of one sort or another - I've already admitted that I don't know. Windows Phone My impression is that these guys have a bit of improvement to make and that the experience isn't as polished as the iPhone. That said, I like the tiles - the UI, oddly enough, seems cleaner to me and I find that appealing. I also like the idea that I'll learn a bit about the Windows 8 way of doing things which might come in handy in the future. iPhone The more mature, polished experience - and yet, the UI seems clunky to me. There might be TOO much going on here and I'm not really excited about buying into the whole Apple ecosystem. Probably the better over all phone but I don't need a new religion either. I dunno... any thoughts?

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        Tom Clement
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        I have a Nokia Lumia 920 and like it a lot. On the downside, it doesn't play well with my car electronics, since apparently they tested the system only with iPhone and Android, so that's a bit of a disappointment. Some people dismiss the apps issue, and for most people it won't be a problem. But it is true that if someone is developing a new product that has a smartphone component, it's only rational that they develop for Android and/or iPhone first. For example, I thought about sending that link for the smartphone controlled paper airplane to my wife (thinking it would be a fun birthday present), but checked out the "Supported Smartphone" section, and realized it would be useless without an iPhone. Recently, I upgraded to WP 8.1, which isn't generally available but you can follow the instructions here[^] to perform the upgrade. I have to say I really like the new OS.

        Tom Clement articles[^]

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        • L Lost User

          I'm thinking about getting a mobile phone. I'm not sure what type of phone to buy. I know next to nothing about these phones. I've impressions and I'll share them here. Don't get upset if you're a cultist of one sort or another - I've already admitted that I don't know. Windows Phone My impression is that these guys have a bit of improvement to make and that the experience isn't as polished as the iPhone. That said, I like the tiles - the UI, oddly enough, seems cleaner to me and I find that appealing. I also like the idea that I'll learn a bit about the Windows 8 way of doing things which might come in handy in the future. iPhone The more mature, polished experience - and yet, the UI seems clunky to me. There might be TOO much going on here and I'm not really excited about buying into the whole Apple ecosystem. Probably the better over all phone but I don't need a new religion either. I dunno... any thoughts?

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          Maximilien
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          Disclaimer:I have an iPhone, it is working very well, the UI is not clunky (compared to my GF's Android phone) and everything is working flawlessly. You prefer the closed eco-system of Windows ? :rolleyes: ( vs android vs iphone ?) Have a look at the different "generic" apps that you would like to use (music, calendars, notes, photos, ... ) for each platform. Have a look at games (yeah, we all want to play a game sometimes) Have a look at more specialized apps (accounting, music, photos, public service (transport, ... ) ) Have a look at the different development environment (if you want to develop for them) If you want to learn Windows 8, then, no need to go for an iPhone or an Android phone. Good luck with that.

          I'd rather be phishing!

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          • L Lost User

            I'm thinking about getting a mobile phone. I'm not sure what type of phone to buy. I know next to nothing about these phones. I've impressions and I'll share them here. Don't get upset if you're a cultist of one sort or another - I've already admitted that I don't know. Windows Phone My impression is that these guys have a bit of improvement to make and that the experience isn't as polished as the iPhone. That said, I like the tiles - the UI, oddly enough, seems cleaner to me and I find that appealing. I also like the idea that I'll learn a bit about the Windows 8 way of doing things which might come in handy in the future. iPhone The more mature, polished experience - and yet, the UI seems clunky to me. There might be TOO much going on here and I'm not really excited about buying into the whole Apple ecosystem. Probably the better over all phone but I don't need a new religion either. I dunno... any thoughts?

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            Let the religious war begin...

            cheers Chris Maunder

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              Let the religious war begin...

              cheers Chris Maunder

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              Blackberry[^] jihad!!!:jig:

              Will Rogers never met me.

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                Blackberry[^] jihad!!!:jig:

                Will Rogers never met me.

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                Tom Clement
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                Does Blackberry make a smart phone?

                Tom Clement articles[^]

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                • L Lost User

                  I'm thinking about getting a mobile phone. I'm not sure what type of phone to buy. I know next to nothing about these phones. I've impressions and I'll share them here. Don't get upset if you're a cultist of one sort or another - I've already admitted that I don't know. Windows Phone My impression is that these guys have a bit of improvement to make and that the experience isn't as polished as the iPhone. That said, I like the tiles - the UI, oddly enough, seems cleaner to me and I find that appealing. I also like the idea that I'll learn a bit about the Windows 8 way of doing things which might come in handy in the future. iPhone The more mature, polished experience - and yet, the UI seems clunky to me. There might be TOO much going on here and I'm not really excited about buying into the whole Apple ecosystem. Probably the better over all phone but I don't need a new religion either. I dunno... any thoughts?

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                  Lost User
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                  As with any purchase, you need to first specify your requirements and then find what products fulfil them best. Will you be developing for it? Do you think you will play games. email? Web browsing? etc. etc. Did you know, by the way, that some of them can also make phone calls ;)

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                  • L Lost User

                    As with any purchase, you need to first specify your requirements and then find what products fulfil them best. Will you be developing for it? Do you think you will play games. email? Web browsing? etc. etc. Did you know, by the way, that some of them can also make phone calls ;)

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                    _Maxxx_ wrote:

                    Did you know, by the way, that some of them can also make phone calls

                    :laugh:

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                    I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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                    • L Lost User

                      I'm thinking about getting a mobile phone. I'm not sure what type of phone to buy. I know next to nothing about these phones. I've impressions and I'll share them here. Don't get upset if you're a cultist of one sort or another - I've already admitted that I don't know. Windows Phone My impression is that these guys have a bit of improvement to make and that the experience isn't as polished as the iPhone. That said, I like the tiles - the UI, oddly enough, seems cleaner to me and I find that appealing. I also like the idea that I'll learn a bit about the Windows 8 way of doing things which might come in handy in the future. iPhone The more mature, polished experience - and yet, the UI seems clunky to me. There might be TOO much going on here and I'm not really excited about buying into the whole Apple ecosystem. Probably the better over all phone but I don't need a new religion either. I dunno... any thoughts?

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                      Colborne_Greg
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                      If you have an apple computer or an ipad stick with iPhone. If you have Microsoft products such as a laptop or desktop go with Windows Phone. If you have a chrome book, or android tablet stick with android. There is a massive benefit with cloud technologies when all your devices are the same brand

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                      • L Lost User

                        I'm thinking about getting a mobile phone. I'm not sure what type of phone to buy. I know next to nothing about these phones. I've impressions and I'll share them here. Don't get upset if you're a cultist of one sort or another - I've already admitted that I don't know. Windows Phone My impression is that these guys have a bit of improvement to make and that the experience isn't as polished as the iPhone. That said, I like the tiles - the UI, oddly enough, seems cleaner to me and I find that appealing. I also like the idea that I'll learn a bit about the Windows 8 way of doing things which might come in handy in the future. iPhone The more mature, polished experience - and yet, the UI seems clunky to me. There might be TOO much going on here and I'm not really excited about buying into the whole Apple ecosystem. Probably the better over all phone but I don't need a new religion either. I dunno... any thoughts?

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                        Wolfgang Schober
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                        Have you had a look at the new Windows Phone 8.1 update? For me (long time user since the first WP 7 Lumias) this update brings the platform up to par with Android and iOS. If you do not fancy converting to the Google or Apple ecosystem, WP 8.1 is now a great way to go. Only if those App-Nazis (like those with the paper-planes or home automation systems) would produce more apps for WP...

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                        • L Lost User

                          I'm thinking about getting a mobile phone. I'm not sure what type of phone to buy. I know next to nothing about these phones. I've impressions and I'll share them here. Don't get upset if you're a cultist of one sort or another - I've already admitted that I don't know. Windows Phone My impression is that these guys have a bit of improvement to make and that the experience isn't as polished as the iPhone. That said, I like the tiles - the UI, oddly enough, seems cleaner to me and I find that appealing. I also like the idea that I'll learn a bit about the Windows 8 way of doing things which might come in handy in the future. iPhone The more mature, polished experience - and yet, the UI seems clunky to me. There might be TOO much going on here and I'm not really excited about buying into the whole Apple ecosystem. Probably the better over all phone but I don't need a new religion either. I dunno... any thoughts?

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                          Greyze
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                          I strongly prefer WP for a huge variety of reasons, I own a Lumia 920 myself and even the small things like Wireless charging and Glance make me tingle :D But from a developers point of view I personally say working on WP is a better choice. There's obviously dozens of pros/cons to both platforms but here's a small sample that make me say WP. --------- Developing on Windows phone can be done in many languages besides C#; and C# is pretty much a global standard for many environments. With your new found C# skills you could make a program for windows desktop, phone, RT, Linux, Android AND Apple products. However if you picked iPhone you will either use Objective-C or Swift, which are both locked languages to apple usage only. If you look into iPhone development you pretty much need a Mac product to work with, such as a MacBook or iMac. You can't do iPhone programming on any other environment unless you spend a lot of money. While you are allowed to WP development on pretty much any machine. If you plan to get into the app market to make money, you will find it extremely difficult to succeed in the apple Appstore because of the millions of apps and developers lingering on it for years. I know of, and seen countless companies, indies, friends etc. Try extremely hard to get anywhere in that Appstore and failed. At least in the Windows app store its still fresh and it's steadily growing. Windows Phone 8.1 update is now available to use and develop on. They've added plenty of features and improvements which make WP stand out quite well from other platforms, such as Access to the Cortana API to integrate voice tools into your own app. That's all the thought I can spare atm, feel free to correct me if I got any details wrong etc.

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                          • L Lost User

                            I'm thinking about getting a mobile phone. I'm not sure what type of phone to buy. I know next to nothing about these phones. I've impressions and I'll share them here. Don't get upset if you're a cultist of one sort or another - I've already admitted that I don't know. Windows Phone My impression is that these guys have a bit of improvement to make and that the experience isn't as polished as the iPhone. That said, I like the tiles - the UI, oddly enough, seems cleaner to me and I find that appealing. I also like the idea that I'll learn a bit about the Windows 8 way of doing things which might come in handy in the future. iPhone The more mature, polished experience - and yet, the UI seems clunky to me. There might be TOO much going on here and I'm not really excited about buying into the whole Apple ecosystem. Probably the better over all phone but I don't need a new religion either. I dunno... any thoughts?

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                            Roman_wolf
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                            It all boils down to your ecosystem of choice. Both are great phones and are pretty much on par with their features (give or take a few on each side). In my case, I'm heavily invested in the Microsoft stack(Windows 8, Windows Phone [Nokia Lumia 920], Xbox, Bing, Office, OneDrive, ...). Therefore I can confirm that the integration between them is awesome. A bonus point for windows phones is the free navigation and augmented reality apps. I suggest you take a look on the new Nokia Lumia 930. It should be released soon and from what I've read, it looks like a high quality phone.

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                              If you have an apple computer or an ipad stick with iPhone. If you have Microsoft products such as a laptop or desktop go with Windows Phone. If you have a chrome book, or android tablet stick with android. There is a massive benefit with cloud technologies when all your devices are the same brand

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                              Lost User
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                              Excellent point.

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                              • L Lost User

                                I'm thinking about getting a mobile phone. I'm not sure what type of phone to buy. I know next to nothing about these phones. I've impressions and I'll share them here. Don't get upset if you're a cultist of one sort or another - I've already admitted that I don't know. Windows Phone My impression is that these guys have a bit of improvement to make and that the experience isn't as polished as the iPhone. That said, I like the tiles - the UI, oddly enough, seems cleaner to me and I find that appealing. I also like the idea that I'll learn a bit about the Windows 8 way of doing things which might come in handy in the future. iPhone The more mature, polished experience - and yet, the UI seems clunky to me. There might be TOO much going on here and I'm not really excited about buying into the whole Apple ecosystem. Probably the better over all phone but I don't need a new religion either. I dunno... any thoughts?

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                                Windows phone are always better that iPhone. GO for Lumia Series , high end phones

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                                • L Lost User

                                  I'm thinking about getting a mobile phone. I'm not sure what type of phone to buy. I know next to nothing about these phones. I've impressions and I'll share them here. Don't get upset if you're a cultist of one sort or another - I've already admitted that I don't know. Windows Phone My impression is that these guys have a bit of improvement to make and that the experience isn't as polished as the iPhone. That said, I like the tiles - the UI, oddly enough, seems cleaner to me and I find that appealing. I also like the idea that I'll learn a bit about the Windows 8 way of doing things which might come in handy in the future. iPhone The more mature, polished experience - and yet, the UI seems clunky to me. There might be TOO much going on here and I'm not really excited about buying into the whole Apple ecosystem. Probably the better over all phone but I don't need a new religion either. I dunno... any thoughts?

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                                  RachelMartin
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                                  I'm an iPhone user, and a regular Apple fan, but if I was starting from scratch would go for a Windows Phone - probably a Lumia. I'm not sure how I would sum up the difference between the two, but all of the people I know who have switched to WP seem pretty happy with it. I think the big problem with the iPhone is that the UI is now so mature it's starting to go a bit stale - and it's not easy for Apple to change the UI to something newer or fresher like you see on the Windows phones because it's too big a step, design wise.

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    I'm thinking about getting a mobile phone. I'm not sure what type of phone to buy. I know next to nothing about these phones. I've impressions and I'll share them here. Don't get upset if you're a cultist of one sort or another - I've already admitted that I don't know. Windows Phone My impression is that these guys have a bit of improvement to make and that the experience isn't as polished as the iPhone. That said, I like the tiles - the UI, oddly enough, seems cleaner to me and I find that appealing. I also like the idea that I'll learn a bit about the Windows 8 way of doing things which might come in handy in the future. iPhone The more mature, polished experience - and yet, the UI seems clunky to me. There might be TOO much going on here and I'm not really excited about buying into the whole Apple ecosystem. Probably the better over all phone but I don't need a new religion either. I dunno... any thoughts?

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                                    Member 10318167
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                                    Are you into - or thinking about getting into - mobile app development? If so, I'd recommend Windows Phone, and here's why: 1) Xamarin. As an indie gamedev with an XNA background, the ability to continue using my XNA knowledge (with Monogame) for WP8 and port to Android and iOS while still coding in C# is absolutely amazing. I can't speak for apps, but the latest version of Xamarin (v3) looks very promising for making cross-platform apps in C#, right up to the interface level. Moreover, there are very encouraging signs between Microsoft and Xamarin at the moment, so while there is currently a licence fee, things may yet change. 2) Nokia. Here in the UK, Nokia have been incredibly supportive of the efforts of small developers like myself, to the extent of even helping out with test devices. They have also been great helping promote my games on the marketplace. ... plus, as expected, the basic WP8 SDK tools can be downloaded for free, and it's only $19/year to publish to the Microsoft marketplace. And if there's an app you need that's not on the store - just make it!

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                                    • L Lost User

                                      I'm thinking about getting a mobile phone. I'm not sure what type of phone to buy. I know next to nothing about these phones. I've impressions and I'll share them here. Don't get upset if you're a cultist of one sort or another - I've already admitted that I don't know. Windows Phone My impression is that these guys have a bit of improvement to make and that the experience isn't as polished as the iPhone. That said, I like the tiles - the UI, oddly enough, seems cleaner to me and I find that appealing. I also like the idea that I'll learn a bit about the Windows 8 way of doing things which might come in handy in the future. iPhone The more mature, polished experience - and yet, the UI seems clunky to me. There might be TOO much going on here and I'm not really excited about buying into the whole Apple ecosystem. Probably the better over all phone but I don't need a new religion either. I dunno... any thoughts?

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                                      Jeremy Hutchinson
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                                      Full disclosure, I've been using Windows Phone since v7 (it wasn't great) and I'm currently running the latest Dev Preview version of the OS so it's possible not all of the features I mention below will be immediately available. Also, I have a general dislike for Apple, though not as much as my growing hatred for Google. You're really choosing an ecosystem. As somebody pointed out, if you have a Mac and an iPad it's really a no-brainer to get an iPhone. If you're pretty well invested in the Mircrosoft ecosystem, then Windows Phone is the clear winner. If you are truly on the fence. The live tiles are great and if you get a Nokia the free Nokia apps are fantastic. I didn't think I'd really use Cortana that much, but I've found her very useful and she's really starting to grow on me. The downside is apps, there a few that I wish would port to Windows Phone, but no deal breakers for me. The best feature has to be the WordFlow keyboard. That thing is one step away from reading my mind. It's to the point where if it doesn't get the word I was swiping the first time I assume I've done something wrong.

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                                        I've had a couple of iPhones over the years (3GS, 4S), and they are good, solid products. I dislike Apple's closed eco-system, amongst other things, but I can't levy criticism against the iPhone product that you haven't already heard before. It worked, did what I needed to do, and didn't fuss too much. For various reasons and disagreements with how Apple does things, I decided to switch to a Windows Phone last year. I got a Nokia Lumia 1020 (the one with the goofy big camera in the back - it's an AWESOME camera though, MUCH better than any other phone camera I've used.). It was interesting to me how different it did everything than iOS did. But more or less the same comments as the iPhone - it does everything I need to do, and does it well. I especially enjoy the ability to write apps for my own phone in C# (I tried once to write an app in Objective-C... I'd rather chop off my fingers than try again - I find it to be an unpleasant language and eco-system to develop in). I also get more freedom with my Windows phone - it's not nearly as locked down as the iPhone is. You may hear some people say "but AppleStore/Android store has more apps than Windows!", but at this point they're all mature enough that all the major functionality you may desire will be there. If something isn't there, then as noted earlier it's pretty easy for me to write up an app to do something I want. Regarding the "polish" query - I was surprised at how "polished" WP8 was - it has some rough edges, no doubt, but it feels like the lack of polish critique is overstated. I have just as many critiques about iOS as I do about WP8, they're just different critiques. WP8.1 looks to address most of them, and I'll download and install it to my phone soon (waiting to do so until it looks like it's solid). Personally I would consider the platforms nearly on par for most everything you would want to do with your pocket computer/phone - it's really a matter of preference about which eco-system you would like. I for one love my Nokia. My wife has an iPhone and is keen on changing over to a WinPhone for her next one after playing around with mine a while - she prefers it to her iPhone. YMMV.

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                                        I had a Windows phone and then switched to an Android, I prefer the windows UI. I agree the argument about the size of the app store is silly, home many more dancing monkey apps does one need? But when my bank and other businesses I use did not come out with a Window Phone app that made me change to Android when the contract was up.

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                                          I have a Nokia Lumia 920 and like it a lot. On the downside, it doesn't play well with my car electronics, since apparently they tested the system only with iPhone and Android, so that's a bit of a disappointment. Some people dismiss the apps issue, and for most people it won't be a problem. But it is true that if someone is developing a new product that has a smartphone component, it's only rational that they develop for Android and/or iPhone first. For example, I thought about sending that link for the smartphone controlled paper airplane to my wife (thinking it would be a fun birthday present), but checked out the "Supported Smartphone" section, and realized it would be useless without an iPhone. Recently, I upgraded to WP 8.1, which isn't generally available but you can follow the instructions here[^] to perform the upgrade. I have to say I really like the new OS.

                                          Tom Clement articles[^]

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                                          Did you try changing the Bluetooth setting for your car? worked for me, came with last update. Settings->Bluetooth->Advanced->tick box.

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