Take the war on Iraq IQ test
-
Jason, You're wasting your time with Mr. Matthews... <flamebait> Although I do find it odd that he is posting this early in the day, maybe his grade school dismissed early today. ;P </flamebait> Mike Mullikin :beer:
Times change, politicians don't. - Anna-Jayne Metcalfe - Soapbox 10/03/2003
Ooh, this looks just like the last time you replied. Except of course you bracketed it with <flamebait> this go 'round. So here's how we proceed... correct me where I'm wrong. I respond with a witty retort. You up the ante and respond with double the insults, all the while feigning interest in the actual topic, and attempt to further instigate a proper response at the level in which you dwell. I do so, and upon reading it, you take your ball and go home, somehow feeling good about yourself. That about right? Class is out today, just my luck. Here's a truce. You need not ever reply to another one of my threads. It is apparent that we are both completely intractable in our positions and any non-constructive responses (like these) are without merit and merely a distraction. In doing so, I will never reply to one of your threads. Seeing how you are without value on this planet and merely a drain on our oxygen supply, this will not be a difficult assignment for me. I am not sure the same can be said for you, as it seems any post that provides a platform for self-promotion and fuel for your abusive nature is far too tempting to resist. I will start my end of the bargain now. Ty
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." -Albert Einstein
-
Ooh, this looks just like the last time you replied. Except of course you bracketed it with <flamebait> this go 'round. So here's how we proceed... correct me where I'm wrong. I respond with a witty retort. You up the ante and respond with double the insults, all the while feigning interest in the actual topic, and attempt to further instigate a proper response at the level in which you dwell. I do so, and upon reading it, you take your ball and go home, somehow feeling good about yourself. That about right? Class is out today, just my luck. Here's a truce. You need not ever reply to another one of my threads. It is apparent that we are both completely intractable in our positions and any non-constructive responses (like these) are without merit and merely a distraction. In doing so, I will never reply to one of your threads. Seeing how you are without value on this planet and merely a drain on our oxygen supply, this will not be a difficult assignment for me. I am not sure the same can be said for you, as it seems any post that provides a platform for self-promotion and fuel for your abusive nature is far too tempting to resist. I will start my end of the bargain now. Ty
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." -Albert Einstein
-
Jason Henderson wrote: 38. Q: Who said that by December 1998, "Iraq had in fact, been disarmed to a level unprecedented in modern history." A: Scott Ritter, UNSCOM chief. Now there's a reliable source. The man was arrested for trying to pick up young girls over the internet. Wonder what gave him that idea , the $400,000 dollars? A little more than 30 pieces of silver, but not much. http://slate.msn.com/id/2071502/[^] Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
Is anybody who disagrees with you a traitor? All this articles is about "perhaps", "theory", "possibility". I could see this article as an attempt to destroy the reputation of a man, because of the lack of facts and demonstrations to make the case. But it's perhaps because of the style of the writer, not because of the elements. Who is the writer, Michael Crowley?
I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq. I mean,when you're going up against a crazed dictator,you wanna have your friends by your side. I realize it took more than 2 years before you guys pitched in against Hitler,but that was different. Everyone knew he had weapons
-
Is anybody who disagrees with you a traitor? All this articles is about "perhaps", "theory", "possibility". I could see this article as an attempt to destroy the reputation of a man, because of the lack of facts and demonstrations to make the case. But it's perhaps because of the style of the writer, not because of the elements. Who is the writer, Michael Crowley?
I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq. I mean,when you're going up against a crazed dictator,you wanna have your friends by your side. I realize it took more than 2 years before you guys pitched in against Hitler,but that was different. Everyone knew he had weapons
KaЯl wrote: Is anybody who disagrees with you a traitor? Not even close, I appreciate the fact that people can disagree, preferably without being disagreeable. However, the issue I have with the whole Scott Ritter issue is that this man quit in "disgust" with the Clinton administration, and then mysteriously changes his position and starts telling the world how Iraq poses no threat to the US. When he does admit to accepting $400,000 from someone who is an adament supporter of SH. It makes one wonder if his motivations are the patriotism he claims, or the cash he recieved. I personally tend to not place much stock in people who change their position after receiving cash from someone supporting the position they were against. Since Scott Ritter isn't in an official government poition, you can't call it bribery, but if you will sell your allegiance for money, that sounds like he i at least for sale..... As for the author of the story, I don't know of him specifically, but I had heard the facts of Ritter's "conversion" from other sources. BTW. I would defend your right to disagree with me, thats one of the beauties of the system that we live in. Name calling is BS, but I do believe in calling a spade a spade, I'm not very PC;) Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
-
17. Q: How many casualties did the Iraqi military inflict on the western forces during the Gulf War ? A: 0 WRONG!!! The U.S. lost around 110 people during GWI, with an additional 30 or so do to friendly fire. 18. Q: How many retreating Iraqi soldiers were buried alive by U.S. tanks with ploughs mounted on the front? A: 6,000 19. Q: How many tons of depleted uranium were left in Iraq and Kuwait after the Gulf War? A: 40 tons 20. Q: What according to the UN was the increase in cancer rates in Iraq between 1991 and 1994? A: 700% Sources? 22. Q: Is there any proof that Iraq plans to use its weapons for anything other than deterrence and self defense? A: No 23. Q: Does Iraq present more of a threat to world peace now than 10 years ago? A: No This is opinion not fact. 34. Q: Did Saddam order the inspectors out of Iraq? A:No I'll have to verify this, but I thought he had. 38. Q: Who said that by December 1998, "Iraq had in fact, been disarmed to a level unprecedented in modern history." A: Scott Ritter, UNSCOM chief. Now there's a reliable source. The man was arrested for trying to pick up young girls over the internet. 44. Q:How many nuclear warheads has Iraq got? A: 0 45. Q: How many nuclear warheads has US got? A: over 10,000 46. Q: Which is the only country to use nuclear weapons? A: the US 44. That we know of. 45. and 46. BIG FARKING DEAL! TyMatthews wrote: U.S. threatens to eliminate independent war journalists during upcoming war on Iraq[^] Repost. Its an absolutely ridiculous article btw.
Jason Henderson
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - GandhiCan I imply that you're accepting the other 34 items? Here are some sources. Undoubtedly, you'll refute them all as conspiracy theory quacks. Just read them. I did a quick Google search and found these. Some are highly reputable, and have nothing to do with politics or conspiracy. Just concerned organizations noting the dramatic increase of cancer rates in Iraqi people since Gulf War I. Depleted Uraniam shells[^] Rise in Iraqi cancer rates since Gulf War I[^] Economic sanctions and public health: the case of Iraq[^] Faulty Justifications for War with Iraq[^] Iraqi cancers offer clues to Gulf War Syndrome[^] Delegation to end all sanctions against Iraq[^] Depleted Uranium information in the Lancet[^] Here are some related to the war crimes during Gulf War I: More facts out on U.S. slaughter in Gulf[^] What the U.S. Bombs Have Done to the People of Iraq[^] Ty
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." -Albert Einstein
-
Hey, thanks! Ty
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." -Albert Einstein
-
KaЯl wrote: Is anybody who disagrees with you a traitor? Not even close, I appreciate the fact that people can disagree, preferably without being disagreeable. However, the issue I have with the whole Scott Ritter issue is that this man quit in "disgust" with the Clinton administration, and then mysteriously changes his position and starts telling the world how Iraq poses no threat to the US. When he does admit to accepting $400,000 from someone who is an adament supporter of SH. It makes one wonder if his motivations are the patriotism he claims, or the cash he recieved. I personally tend to not place much stock in people who change their position after receiving cash from someone supporting the position they were against. Since Scott Ritter isn't in an official government poition, you can't call it bribery, but if you will sell your allegiance for money, that sounds like he i at least for sale..... As for the author of the story, I don't know of him specifically, but I had heard the facts of Ritter's "conversion" from other sources. BTW. I would defend your right to disagree with me, thats one of the beauties of the system that we live in. Name calling is BS, but I do believe in calling a spade a spade, I'm not very PC;) Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
Another beauty of the system is, I think, that a man is innocent before being convicted :) Doug Goulden wrote: I'm not very PC An apple zeolot on CP ?! :wtf::-D;)
I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq. I mean,when you're going up against a crazed dictator,you wanna have your friends by your side. I realize it took more than 2 years before you guys pitched in against Hitler,but that was different. Everyone knew he had weapons
-
Can I imply that you're accepting the other 34 items? Here are some sources. Undoubtedly, you'll refute them all as conspiracy theory quacks. Just read them. I did a quick Google search and found these. Some are highly reputable, and have nothing to do with politics or conspiracy. Just concerned organizations noting the dramatic increase of cancer rates in Iraqi people since Gulf War I. Depleted Uraniam shells[^] Rise in Iraqi cancer rates since Gulf War I[^] Economic sanctions and public health: the case of Iraq[^] Faulty Justifications for War with Iraq[^] Iraqi cancers offer clues to Gulf War Syndrome[^] Delegation to end all sanctions against Iraq[^] Depleted Uranium information in the Lancet[^] Here are some related to the war crimes during Gulf War I: More facts out on U.S. slaughter in Gulf[^] What the U.S. Bombs Have Done to the People of Iraq[^] Ty
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." -Albert Einstein
TyMatthews wrote: Can I imply that you're accepting the other 34 items? Not necessarily. I do not doubt that there would be lingering affects if 40 tons of uranium were left lying around Iraq. However, thats 80,000 lbs. and that would take a lot of shells. If we say a shell weighs 50 lbs, thats 1600 shells (not unreasonable), but it says 40 tons of uranium, not shells. I don't know if this is true or not, so I won't comment further. What is the effect of 600+ oil wells being set afire and spewing toxic fumes for months? Or was the our fault too? BTW, I tend not to trust socialist/communist web sites. You surely don't believe socialism/communism actually works do you?
Jason Henderson
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi -
Another beauty of the system is, I think, that a man is innocent before being convicted :) Doug Goulden wrote: I'm not very PC An apple zeolot on CP ?! :wtf::-D;)
I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq. I mean,when you're going up against a crazed dictator,you wanna have your friends by your side. I realize it took more than 2 years before you guys pitched in against Hitler,but that was different. Everyone knew he had weapons
KaЯl wrote: An apple zeolot on CP That was really mean. KaЯl wrote: nother beauty of the system is, I think, that a man is innocent before being convicted I'm not ready to mach the guy in front of a firing squad, I just don't think that someone should be able to quote him as an authoritative expert, without questioning his motives. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
-
KaЯl wrote: An apple zeolot on CP That was really mean. KaЯl wrote: nother beauty of the system is, I think, that a man is innocent before being convicted I'm not ready to mach the guy in front of a firing squad, I just don't think that someone should be able to quote him as an authoritative expert, without questioning his motives. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
Doug Goulden wrote: That was really mean Sorry, I apologize :rolleyes: Doug Goulden wrote: just don't think that someone should be able to quote him as an authoritative expert, without questioning his motives. I understand that. I think his arguments have to be more attentively confirmed, but not to be rejected without examination.
I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq. I mean,when you're going up against a crazed dictator,you wanna have your friends by your side. I realize it took more than 2 years before you guys pitched in against Hitler,but that was different. Everyone knew he had weapons
-
Doug Goulden wrote: That was really mean Sorry, I apologize :rolleyes: Doug Goulden wrote: just don't think that someone should be able to quote him as an authoritative expert, without questioning his motives. I understand that. I think his arguments have to be more attentively confirmed, but not to be rejected without examination.
I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq. I mean,when you're going up against a crazed dictator,you wanna have your friends by your side. I realize it took more than 2 years before you guys pitched in against Hitler,but that was different. Everyone knew he had weapons
KaЯl wrote: I think his arguments have to be more attentively confirmed, but not to be rejected without examination I would agree with that, to bad we had to send 255,000 armed Americans to the Gulf to get him (SH) to let us even visit to check......:) Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
-
KaЯl wrote: I think his arguments have to be more attentively confirmed, but not to be rejected without examination I would agree with that, to bad we had to send 255,000 armed Americans to the Gulf to get him (SH) to let us even visit to check......:) Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
And it worked ! :-D
I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq. I mean,when you're going up against a crazed dictator,you wanna have your friends by your side. I realize it took more than 2 years before you guys pitched in against Hitler,but that was different. Everyone knew he had weapons
-
TyMatthews wrote: Can I imply that you're accepting the other 34 items? Not necessarily. I do not doubt that there would be lingering affects if 40 tons of uranium were left lying around Iraq. However, thats 80,000 lbs. and that would take a lot of shells. If we say a shell weighs 50 lbs, thats 1600 shells (not unreasonable), but it says 40 tons of uranium, not shells. I don't know if this is true or not, so I won't comment further. What is the effect of 600+ oil wells being set afire and spewing toxic fumes for months? Or was the our fault too? BTW, I tend not to trust socialist/communist web sites. You surely don't believe socialism/communism actually works do you?
Jason Henderson
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - GandhiJason Henderson wrote: You surely don't believe socialism/communism actually works do you? Who knows? Nobody tried. ;P
I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq. I mean,when you're going up against a crazed dictator,you wanna have your friends by your side. I realize it took more than 2 years before you guys pitched in against Hitler,but that was different. Everyone knew he had weapons
-
And it worked ! :-D
I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq. I mean,when you're going up against a crazed dictator,you wanna have your friends by your side. I realize it took more than 2 years before you guys pitched in against Hitler,but that was different. Everyone knew he had weapons
Yeah, and how long do you think it will work after we leave? :omg: Lets just agree war sucks and that nobody really wants one, but sometimes you have to just hold your nose and commit. (At least until tommorrow when someone else will post another thread like this and we can disagree all over again my Marxist friend;P) Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
-
Jason Henderson wrote: You surely don't believe socialism/communism actually works do you? Who knows? Nobody tried. ;P
I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq. I mean,when you're going up against a crazed dictator,you wanna have your friends by your side. I realize it took more than 2 years before you guys pitched in against Hitler,but that was different. Everyone knew he had weapons
Yeah they did, read how it turned out. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/02/0226_030226_antnepotism.html Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
-
Jason Henderson wrote: Now there's a reliable source. The man was arrested for trying to pick up young girls over the internet. non-sequiter, b.t.w. -c
Image tools: ThumbNailer, Bobber, TIFFAssembler
Nice Chris! I always point out non-sequiter fallacies, but I've never seen anyone else use it. Very good! 10 points for you. :)
any idiot can write haiku you just stop at seventeenth syl -ThinkGeek Fortunes
-
Yeah, and how long do you think it will work after we leave? :omg: Lets just agree war sucks and that nobody really wants one, but sometimes you have to just hold your nose and commit. (At least until tommorrow when someone else will post another thread like this and we can disagree all over again my Marxist friend;P) Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
Doug Goulden wrote: it will work after we leave Dump Turkey, recognize an independant Kurdistan, and give a military support to the Kurds. Or eliminate SH discretly. I suppose it's not that easy, or the Mossad would have already done it. Doug Goulden wrote: Lets just agree war sucks and that nobody really wants one, but sometimes you have to just hold your nose and commit Agreed on this. Till the next thread ;) Doug Goulden wrote: my Marxist friend You should introduce him to me, I'm sure I'm able to convince him to forget his false theories :-D
I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq. I mean,when you're going up against a crazed dictator,you wanna have your friends by your side. I realize it took more than 2 years before you guys pitched in against Hitler,but that was different. Everyone knew he had weapons
-
My contributions for the day: Take the war on Iraq IQ test[^] House Majority Leader Tom DeLay called Democratic opponents of war in Iraq "reckless." [^] U.S. threatens to eliminate independent war journalists during upcoming war on Iraq[^] Ty
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." -Albert Einstein
Some more stats for you, http://www.iraqfoundation.org/hr.html[^] Michael He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot will be victorious - Sun Tzu (The Art of War)
-
TyMatthews wrote: Can I imply that you're accepting the other 34 items? Not necessarily. I do not doubt that there would be lingering affects if 40 tons of uranium were left lying around Iraq. However, thats 80,000 lbs. and that would take a lot of shells. If we say a shell weighs 50 lbs, thats 1600 shells (not unreasonable), but it says 40 tons of uranium, not shells. I don't know if this is true or not, so I won't comment further. What is the effect of 600+ oil wells being set afire and spewing toxic fumes for months? Or was the our fault too? BTW, I tend not to trust socialist/communist web sites. You surely don't believe socialism/communism actually works do you?
Jason Henderson
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - GandhiJason Henderson wrote: ...and that would take a lot of shells. We dropped more bombs in Gulf War I than in the Korean and Vietnam wars combined. The U.S. had a massive build-up of weaponry throughout the cold war, all to "one up" the Soviets if WW3 ever were to come about. In 1989 all of that changed. What to do with all these bombs, and how do the defense contractors keep earning their riches off taxpayer money now that we've run out of excuses to keep building bombs? Simple: find a new enemy. One that provides an excuse for dropping an insane amount of ordnance, so they can show off their cool "smart bomb" technology. Control over all of that oil and the need for a new enemy was just too delicious for Bush to resist. Allow Saddam to run over Kuwait by looking the other way. Make up some stories about how the Iraqi military is raping and brutally murdering innocent Kuwaiti civilians. Try to forget about the Kurds that Saddam gassed on his own soil... that was okay when Bush and Saddam were allies. Get the American people to support a war and support spending money on more defense. Then bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, show off your tech on CNN. Shock the hell out of Saddam, hoping he gets the picture... don't mess with Bush! Whoops, the war was far too easy. Guess they overestimated the strength of Iraq's army. Didn't expect them to cave in quite so easily. Couldn't just run in there and nuke them all while they're trying to surrender. Well, that's not entirely true. They did kill hundreds of Iraqi troops trying to retreat and get out of Kuwait. So, what to do when your enemy is not up to the challenge of a "decent war?" Pull out, throw down some sanctions, go back home and build some more bombs, this time with newer tech funded by the taxpayers. Leave Saddam in power so we can come back and do it all over again in a couple years. After all, if you yank him out in 1991 and install a democracy, what evil dictator could take his place? Whoops, didn't get re-elected. DAMN that Ross Perot! That threw the entire plan out the window. Saddam plots assassination attempt on Daddy Bush. Okay, now it's really personal!! Get two sons into politics. 1996 is too early, plan to buy the 2000 election with either Shrubya or Jethro. Shrubya gets the nod. Steal the election by the narrowest of margins. Okay, Bush is back in power. Time to make up for all that lost time. Bomb Iraq right away, within a month of inauguration. Show him his days a
-
Some more stats for you, http://www.iraqfoundation.org/hr.html[^] Michael He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot will be victorious - Sun Tzu (The Art of War)
LOL, a site with a mailing address of Washington, DC. That is too funny. All articles on that site conveniently leave out the civilian casualties as a result of Gulf War I, and the horrible after-effects of that unprecedented bombing that continue to this day. I'm sure with that kind of logic you'd support bombing nearly all of Africa now, too. After all, the human rights violations that have been going on there for decades... nay centuries... have extolled a tremendous price on their civilians. http://www.rnw.nl/humanrights/html/violations.html[^] http://hrw.org/reports/2003/sierraleone/sierleon0103-05.htm#P302_34890[^] http://www.hrw.org/wr2k3/africa7.html[^] Chaos in Eastern Congo: U.N. Action Needed Now[^] Would you support a war to go in and help these people? No need to think too long about that... there isn't anything of material or political value down there, so Bush won't bother. Just one of those hypothetical questions you can ponder while supporting Bush's plan to bomb Iraq with or without U.N. consent. Ty
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." -Albert Einstein