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  • P Pete OHanlon

    I'd highly recommend Michel Thomas' courses[^].

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    Rage
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    Why highly ? Any experience with it ?

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    I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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    • L loctrice

      I recently starting doing French lessons with my daughter. I wanted a french to english sort of passive listening, but I can't find any that I like. I can find all french, but that's not what I'm looking for. I'd like to find some audio learning type of thing that says words/phrases in one language and then the other. Anyone know of anything like this?

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      there is a very good app on the android and iphone store which called dual lingo. try that.

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        Have a look at EuroTalk Interactive[^] - I have tried one of them many years ago, and IIRC it worked.

        Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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        OriginalGriff wrote:

        IIRC it worked

        How is this to be understood ? Have you forgotten the language after that ?

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        I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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          Why highly ? Any experience with it ?

          ~RaGE();

          I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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          Pete OHanlon
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          Yes I have.

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          • P Pete OHanlon

            Yes I have.

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            Rage
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            If it was English, I can confirm you that it works ;P

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            • R Rage

              If it was English, I can confirm you that it works ;P

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              Pete OHanlon
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              Oui. :D

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                OriginalGriff wrote:

                IIRC it worked

                How is this to be understood ? Have you forgotten the language after that ?

                ~RaGE();

                I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                OriginalGriff
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                It was about 15 years or so ago - and so I can't remember how much of it I remember from them, and how much from using it! :laugh:

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  It was about 15 years or so ago - and so I can't remember how much of it I remember from them, and how much from using it! :laugh:

                  Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                  Did you learn sheep by chance? I thought this came as a native language !

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                  • R Rage

                    Did you learn sheep by chance? I thought this came as a native language !

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                    Only if you are born with furry hips.

                    Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                    • L loctrice

                      I recently starting doing French lessons with my daughter. I wanted a french to english sort of passive listening, but I can't find any that I like. I can find all french, but that's not what I'm looking for. I'd like to find some audio learning type of thing that says words/phrases in one language and then the other. Anyone know of anything like this?

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                      Dr Walt Fair PE
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                      I've used Duolingo[^] on my PC and on my Android phone. I can't vouch for the French module, but the Portuguese does quite well.

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                      • L loctrice

                        I recently starting doing French lessons with my daughter. I wanted a french to english sort of passive listening, but I can't find any that I like. I can find all french, but that's not what I'm looking for. I'd like to find some audio learning type of thing that says words/phrases in one language and then the other. Anyone know of anything like this?

                        Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine

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                        Watch kids TV programs. (Online probably). With a bit of learning, the context and simple stories they provide will make it easier, but, let me say that what you are doing is difficult, French pronunciation is very difficult for English speakers, and while doing it this way might teach you how to understand it, it wont tech you how to pronounce it, or how the language is structured, for these you need to be in France, and learn it from a book. So, what I found good was the Hugo 'learn French in three months' and it did. I learnt all the grammar and a good vocab in that time. I then lived in France for 10 years, and was OK at French, but it was only co sharing with a load of French guys in Lux on one contract that I got to really understand it properly and speak it to the point I was mistaken for a native French speaker on a number of occasions, which for a late learner shows it can be done. Of course, 6 French mates cant be ordered up on demand, but if there is a French society near by you join that would go a long way. And it is the most beautiful language, and a very interesting language too. And also learning it will allow yo to read Italian and Spanish to a large degree.

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                        • L loctrice

                          I recently starting doing French lessons with my daughter. I wanted a french to english sort of passive listening, but I can't find any that I like. I can find all french, but that's not what I'm looking for. I'd like to find some audio learning type of thing that says words/phrases in one language and then the other. Anyone know of anything like this?

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                          Chris Quinn
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                          Try this on the BBC[^]

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                          • D Dr Walt Fair PE

                            I've used Duolingo[^] on my PC and on my Android phone. I can't vouch for the French module, but the Portuguese does quite well.

                            CQ de W5ALT

                            Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                            loctrice
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                            Yeah I have an account on there. We are using livemocha at home, but I was looking for audio. Like background listening while working.

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                              Watch kids TV programs. (Online probably). With a bit of learning, the context and simple stories they provide will make it easier, but, let me say that what you are doing is difficult, French pronunciation is very difficult for English speakers, and while doing it this way might teach you how to understand it, it wont tech you how to pronounce it, or how the language is structured, for these you need to be in France, and learn it from a book. So, what I found good was the Hugo 'learn French in three months' and it did. I learnt all the grammar and a good vocab in that time. I then lived in France for 10 years, and was OK at French, but it was only co sharing with a load of French guys in Lux on one contract that I got to really understand it properly and speak it to the point I was mistaken for a native French speaker on a number of occasions, which for a late learner shows it can be done. Of course, 6 French mates cant be ordered up on demand, but if there is a French society near by you join that would go a long way. And it is the most beautiful language, and a very interesting language too. And also learning it will allow yo to read Italian and Spanish to a large degree.

                              "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold

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                              The audio is supplementary. I am learning from some basic courses now, and have some french speaking friends who are anxiously awaiting conversations with me :d I just wanted this to help me along. I planned to switch to tv shows and radio when I get my feet down some, but for now I just need some background stuff to assist in learning.

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                                The audio is supplementary. I am learning from some basic courses now, and have some french speaking friends who are anxiously awaiting conversations with me :d I just wanted this to help me along. I planned to switch to tv shows and radio when I get my feet down some, but for now I just need some background stuff to assist in learning.

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                                loctrice wrote:

                                have some french speaking friends who are anxiously awaiting conversations with me :-D

                                Donc c'est facile! T'as eu de la chance! :) Documentaries are good, they are slowly spoken, and again, have good context, but be ware, as dictated French they might well contain the passé simple and passé anterior tenses which you never hear in normal speech, though you might read them. Best of all are cooking documentaries; simple French, well spoken, good context. Worst of all are French films, they are almost impossible to understand at times. Mais, après quoi, dix ans, tu peut en faire! :)

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                                • L loctrice

                                  I recently starting doing French lessons with my daughter. I wanted a french to english sort of passive listening, but I can't find any that I like. I can find all french, but that's not what I'm looking for. I'd like to find some audio learning type of thing that says words/phrases in one language and then the other. Anyone know of anything like this?

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                                  I learnt French for seven years while at primary and secondary school in England but it didn't stick until I went to work in France for a short while. Recently I have tried the Rosetta Stone course but I don't find it very helpful. It seems slow and ponderous, the early lessons seem aimed at you buying the later lessons to continue.

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                                    loctrice wrote:

                                    have some french speaking friends who are anxiously awaiting conversations with me :-D

                                    Donc c'est facile! T'as eu de la chance! :) Documentaries are good, they are slowly spoken, and again, have good context, but be ware, as dictated French they might well contain the passé simple and passé anterior tenses which you never hear in normal speech, though you might read them. Best of all are cooking documentaries; simple French, well spoken, good context. Worst of all are French films, they are almost impossible to understand at times. Mais, après quoi, dix ans, tu peut en faire! :)

                                    "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold

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                                    Ten years. Right! The French should just all learn English and then there wouldn't be any of these pronunciation problems. ;P I agree the French films should be avoided. A lot of my French friends say the same!

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                                    • F Forogar

                                      Ten years. Right! The French should just all learn English and then there wouldn't be any of these pronunciation problems. ;P I agree the French films should be avoided. A lot of my French friends say the same!

                                      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                      Munchies_Matt
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                                      What was that Irish film with that American actor in it recently, about gangsters. His accent was so bad I couldn't understand it. That's what French films are like.

                                      "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold

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                                      • F Forogar

                                        I learnt French for seven years while at primary and secondary school in England but it didn't stick until I went to work in France for a short while. Recently I have tried the Rosetta Stone course but I don't find it very helpful. It seems slow and ponderous, the early lessons seem aimed at you buying the later lessons to continue.

                                        - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                        What is relactionship between learning language and changing world? :-D

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                                          I learnt French for seven years while at primary and secondary school in England but it didn't stick until I went to work in France for a short while. Recently I have tried the Rosetta Stone course but I don't find it very helpful. It seems slow and ponderous, the early lessons seem aimed at you buying the later lessons to continue.

                                          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                          What is relationship between learning language and changing world? :-D

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