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  • S Shao Voon Wong

    I put all my personal source code in private repository hosting. Yesterday night, I was working on a personal project and it failed to check in my code. I thought it was just routine system maintenance. Just now I went to the website and saw this notice[^]: The short story was a hacker failed to extort money from them and proceeded to delete all/most of the repo and snapshots. I think I cannot sleep tonight! :( They advertised Oracle was one of their customers. I wondered how much Oracle lost.

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    Ouch, that sucketh. But just more evidence that "no one else but you can keep your stuff safe". I agree with the others that this whole "cloud" thing is a very bad idea.

    You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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      Terrible. Outsourcing your server is a bad idea, and outsourcing the storage of sensitive information is an epic bad idea (think tax-information, banks, medical records, aw - the cloud-horrors that are still awaiting us!) As soon as you outsource your server, you're no longer in control and depending on the other party.

      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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      Rage
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      Eddy Vluggen wrote:

      outsourcing the storage of sensitive information is an epic bad idea

      But for the moment where all your local data is gone. In which case it might be quite interesting to have the data somewhere in the cloud.

      ~RaGE();

      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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        Ouch, that sucketh. But just more evidence that "no one else but you can keep your stuff safe". I agree with the others that this whole "cloud" thing is a very bad idea.

        You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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        Shao Voon Wong
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        Keeping in cloud is redundancy against keeping them all on my home PC.

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        • S Shao Voon Wong

          I put all my personal source code in private repository hosting. Yesterday night, I was working on a personal project and it failed to check in my code. I thought it was just routine system maintenance. Just now I went to the website and saw this notice[^]: The short story was a hacker failed to extort money from them and proceeded to delete all/most of the repo and snapshots. I think I cannot sleep tonight! :( They advertised Oracle was one of their customers. I wondered how much Oracle lost.

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          Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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          It is a good thing you have back-ups.

          Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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          • S Shao Voon Wong

            I put all my personal source code in private repository hosting. Yesterday night, I was working on a personal project and it failed to check in my code. I thought it was just routine system maintenance. Just now I went to the website and saw this notice[^]: The short story was a hacker failed to extort money from them and proceeded to delete all/most of the repo and snapshots. I think I cannot sleep tonight! :( They advertised Oracle was one of their customers. I wondered how much Oracle lost.

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            OriginalGriff
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            You mean the company you pay for this repository don't do backups? :omg: Change. Now. And demand your money back as well...

            Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
            "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              You mean the company you pay for this repository don't do backups? :omg: Change. Now. And demand your money back as well...

              Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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              Nicholas Marty
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              They did. But those got deleted too :rolleyes:

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                It is a good thing you have back-ups.

                Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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                Nagy Vilmos
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                Put your claws away Ennis!

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                • S Shao Voon Wong

                  I put all my personal source code in private repository hosting. Yesterday night, I was working on a personal project and it failed to check in my code. I thought it was just routine system maintenance. Just now I went to the website and saw this notice[^]: The short story was a hacker failed to extort money from them and proceeded to delete all/most of the repo and snapshots. I think I cannot sleep tonight! :( They advertised Oracle was one of their customers. I wondered how much Oracle lost.

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                  Ron Anders
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                  That should teach you all that USB drives, Private NAS drives and other personal backup / repositories were a good idea and that the cloud is a bad idea.

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    You mean the company you pay for this repository don't do backups? :omg: Change. Now. And demand your money back as well...

                    Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                    Shao Voon Wong
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                    There is no guarantee it won't happen at another company. I should have chosen the option to pay monthly, instead of annually. My yearly subscription ends at October. I'll see if I can get my remaining money back.

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                    • S Shao Voon Wong

                      I put all my personal source code in private repository hosting. Yesterday night, I was working on a personal project and it failed to check in my code. I thought it was just routine system maintenance. Just now I went to the website and saw this notice[^]: The short story was a hacker failed to extort money from them and proceeded to delete all/most of the repo and snapshots. I think I cannot sleep tonight! :( They advertised Oracle was one of their customers. I wondered how much Oracle lost.

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                      Dave Kreskowiak
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                      I wonder how "off-site" their backups really were if they could just be deleted from the control panel. I store all of my code in Azure, but I also have everything backed up at home and on my own "off-site" backups. I always maintain 3 copies of everything I can't afford to lose, on seperate media, services and locations, none of which are connected to each other. Unless an asteroid hits the East Coast and obliterates half the United States, it's impossible for me to lose everything like you have.

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                        They did. But those got deleted too :rolleyes:

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                        OriginalGriff
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                        Yeah right - the "offsite backups" got trashed. I don't know about you, but my offsite backups aren't connected to my main system once they have been written: they are the backups-of-last-resort and you can;t keep those in a vulnerable location. What they mean is: "we don't do backups".

                        Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                        • R Ron Anders

                          That should teach you all that USB drives, Private NAS drives and other personal backup / repositories were a good idea and that the cloud is a bad idea.

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                          Nicholas Marty
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                          The issue is not the cloud. The issue is trusting a single backup location (and I count "the cloud" as such). If you really care about backups, you should have different backup locations. And a cloud backup can still be a good choice for that as long as you still have your own copy somewhere.

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                            That should teach you all that USB drives, Private NAS drives and other personal backup / repositories were a good idea and that the cloud is a bad idea.

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                            Dave Kreskowiak
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                            No, the cloud as your sole repository is a bad idea, just like have only your own NAS is a bad idea. Combining them as backups of each other and your local copies is a good idea.

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                            • S Shao Voon Wong

                              Yes, only recent projects. I deleted the very old projects.

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                              JimmyRopes
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                              First off, sorry for your losing source code. If it is any consolation at least you still have the more recent code. I find that I have copies of some very old projects but never go to look at them because they were done with older technology and offer little help with current projects. The more recent the project the more likely that it is done with a technology you are still using.

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                              • S Shao Voon Wong

                                I put all my personal source code in private repository hosting. Yesterday night, I was working on a personal project and it failed to check in my code. I thought it was just routine system maintenance. Just now I went to the website and saw this notice[^]: The short story was a hacker failed to extort money from them and proceeded to delete all/most of the repo and snapshots. I think I cannot sleep tonight! :( They advertised Oracle was one of their customers. I wondered how much Oracle lost.

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                                I guess I'll say, there's something suspicious here. The grammar is terrible, and the very concept that backup data could be wiped is hard to believe. Furthermore, they talk about DDOS but also someone who had access to their control panel. How are those two related? And then there's this bizarre statement: Upon realisation that somebody had access to our control panel we started to investigate how access had been gained and what access that person had to the data in our systems, it became clear that so far no machine access had been achieved due to the intruder not having our Private Keys. No machine acccess...not having private keys? What does the double negative mean? And why would you even futz around "investigating" if you thought access was compromised? I would instantly change passwords, keys, etc. At this point we took action to take control back of our panel by changing passwords, however the intruder had prepared for this and had already created a number of backup logins And you didn't check for this? Supposedly compounding the problem? And why hasn't this story been picked up in the news? There is absolutely no mention of it anywhere that I've found. To be honest, this looks like a "take the money and run" scheme. Marc

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                                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                  Yeah right - the "offsite backups" got trashed. I don't know about you, but my offsite backups aren't connected to my main system once they have been written: they are the backups-of-last-resort and you can;t keep those in a vulnerable location. What they mean is: "we don't do backups".

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                                  Absolutely! One important part of my job is to setup backup plans for my clients. If I had done things like they did, I would be fired now. Typically, any one of my clients could undergo a fire, I would still be able to setup a new platform in a few hours. This story is just such a shame.

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                                  • S Shao Voon Wong

                                    I put all my personal source code in private repository hosting. Yesterday night, I was working on a personal project and it failed to check in my code. I thought it was just routine system maintenance. Just now I went to the website and saw this notice[^]: The short story was a hacker failed to extort money from them and proceeded to delete all/most of the repo and snapshots. I think I cannot sleep tonight! :( They advertised Oracle was one of their customers. I wondered how much Oracle lost.

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                                    GenJerDan
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                                    Track down the hacker and delete them.

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                                      Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                      outsourcing the storage of sensitive information is an epic bad idea

                                      But for the moment where all your local data is gone. In which case it might be quite interesting to have the data somewhere in the cloud.

                                      ~RaGE();

                                      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                                      Lost User
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                                      If your data is gone, ANY backup would do. Still, given the choice between a backup on somebody else's cloud (!) is a similar bad idea. Back up on tape, and put it in the vault.

                                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                                        I guess I'll say, there's something suspicious here. The grammar is terrible, and the very concept that backup data could be wiped is hard to believe. Furthermore, they talk about DDOS but also someone who had access to their control panel. How are those two related? And then there's this bizarre statement: Upon realisation that somebody had access to our control panel we started to investigate how access had been gained and what access that person had to the data in our systems, it became clear that so far no machine access had been achieved due to the intruder not having our Private Keys. No machine acccess...not having private keys? What does the double negative mean? And why would you even futz around "investigating" if you thought access was compromised? I would instantly change passwords, keys, etc. At this point we took action to take control back of our panel by changing passwords, however the intruder had prepared for this and had already created a number of backup logins And you didn't check for this? Supposedly compounding the problem? And why hasn't this story been picked up in the news? There is absolutely no mention of it anywhere that I've found. To be honest, this looks like a "take the money and run" scheme. Marc

                                        Latest Article - APOD Scraper

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                                        Lost User
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                                        I was about to say the same thing. Alternatively, they lost data "accidentally" and are trying to cover themselves with the hacker theory.

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                                          Absolutely! One important part of my job is to setup backup plans for my clients. If I had done things like they did, I would be fired now. Typically, any one of my clients could undergo a fire, I would still be able to setup a new platform in a few hours. This story is just such a shame.

                                          There are two kinds of people in the world: those who separate humankind in two distinct categories, and those who don't. "I have two hobbies: breasts." DSK

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                                          That's one of my problems with the cloud: you have no idea who is doing the actual storage, and what exactly they are doing. Do they backup? Or save money by hope-and-pray? What kind of people do they employ - apart from "the cheapest possible"? They will have total access to my data - so what are they going to do with it? You may have guessed, I don't keep anything serious out there! :laugh:

                                          Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                                          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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