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Stan Shannon wrote: Really sucks for a good southern boy to be called a "Yank" doesn't it? Would Yank be considered a really bad word to use for an American? Or is it only really offensive to Southerners? I don't mean bad as in you, or they, might get a bit offended. Bad as in if I said it at Grand Central in New York (or wherever the word is taboo) I would be promptly pushed onto the rails and then hung up as an example? e.g. Like Kafir is a no-no word in South Africa. Thing is a lot of movies use it (don't reply with "That is the movies Paul" because we would never use Kafir in a movie even) and from my understanding it is quite a light, jovial term. Like redneck or hillbilly.
Paul Watson
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Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.
Paul Watson wrote: I don't mean bad as in you, or they, might get a bit offended. Bad as in if I said it at Grand Central in New York (or wherever the word is taboo) I would be promptly pushed onto the rails and then hung up as an example? e.g. Like Kafir is a no-no word in South Africa. Actually I don't consider "Yank" to be an insult at all. To me it simply refers to people from the Northern states, and sounds odd when applied to all of us in general. Like the song says: "...300,000 Yankees lay stiff in Southern dust, We got 300,000 before they conqured us. They died of Southern fever and Southern steel and shot, I wish it was 3 million instead of what we got..." :) Actually, though, I'm married to a nice Yankee girl from Indiana, so I can't hold a grudge. "My job is to protect America" George W. Bush.
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Freedom Fries and Freedom Toast. http://www.salon.com/mwt/wire/2003/03/11/fries/index.html[^] everybody knows France is opposed to "freedom". duh. i can't wait for Freedom Kissing, Freedom Bread and Freedom Cuffs. then maybe we can start getting rid of all the French words in the English language. then we'd be speaking... oh yeah, German. -c
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Richard Stringer wrote: Do Brits like being called a "Limey ". I think you'll find most Brits wouldn't care less if you called them most things, even to their face. Richard Stringer wrote: Do most even know where that term came from ?. I do! My dad told me years ago when I heard it mentioned on the telly and didn't know what it was! I can remember getting all embrassed as soon as I called out "what's a Limey?" as I was going through that phase at the time, where everything I said I somehow became very conscious of it having 'another' meaning. Like the time I asked what a tampon was... :laugh:
David Wulff
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The royal navy used to issue limes to ward off scurvy (vitamin C deficciency). Limes kept well for long voyages. As johny foreigner had tiddly navies, we got the nickname. Now the situation is reversed, we have a bathtub and a couple of rowing boats from the park. Iain.
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They weren't able to show a single piece of evidence....to you. It was stated that they are sharing this information with allies. You can't always drop all your evidence for the world to see before you are ready to act on it. If you do, you compromise the security of your sources. I said the facts were the actual statments by Bush. If we go to war, once it has started I would hope he would produce this information for everyone to see. Somehow I doubt it. He hasn't impressed me much as of late (ever). When I was in the military (mid to late 90's) we had picture proof of terrorist camps within Iraq. Good portions of the war have been being planned, and fine tuned for years. To say Bush has been planning it for years is just speculation. To say "Now they want Iraq's oil" is just speculation. Finally, at the end of the day, the fact still remains that Iraq hasn't dissarmed as they were supposed to.
tidge wrote: They weren't able to show a single piece of evidence....to you. Should I take this as an insult? Sorry, it's been a hard day, I don't feel like discussing ... I just can tell you that it's not just me who believe that US didn't show any evidence. There are millions of people all over the world that agree with me. To say that Iraq has connections with terrorism is just speculation
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tidge wrote: They weren't able to show a single piece of evidence....to you. Should I take this as an insult? Sorry, it's been a hard day, I don't feel like discussing ... I just can tell you that it's not just me who believe that US didn't show any evidence. There are millions of people all over the world that agree with me. To say that Iraq has connections with terrorism is just speculation
Oh no, I didn't mean to insult you. It's just my personal experience of how things work sometimes. I know there are people all over the world with the same opinion "Show me, prove it to me." Really, I'm the same way. But I fight with myself sometimes because I have been in the position where you have information, you have to act on it, but you can't just lay out all your information for everyone to see because that would jeopardize the way you gather information and your ability to gather further information. If there is a group that is currently watching illegal weapons movements in Iraq, they shouldn't just publish all their information because now Iraq has an idea about what and how they are watching. In the end though, it needs to be proven with rock hard evidence though. Otherwise Bush should have some serious explaining to do. If he had said “I have a gut feeling, that they have weapons of mass destruction and that there are terrorist links in Iraq”, but he didn’t. He said “We have information show us…” In the end, it must be proven. Basically everyones' opinion is based on what they know. That's why the people making the final decision need to be the most informed when the decisions have to be made. All that being said, I agree with the principal and the end result of what is on the verge of happening. I think it should have happened a long time ago. Some of the actual data that has been presented is the same stuff that was around in 1995. Some of the things that are being written off as speculation, I know as fact (at least fact in 1995, I've been out of the loop for quite some time). What I don’t agree with is how it has been handled. There is too much bullying and chest thumping and not enough group consensus and cooperation, from both sides of the issue.
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Richard Stringer wrote: J.R. was what 30 years ago - don't yall get anything newer than that Not from Texas. I guess you guys have very little culture to export, so you milk what you have... ;) If you don't mind me saying actually hearing a yank say "y'all" cracks me up. If ever there was a stereotype that rang true, that would be it. Nothing wrong with it mind you, just funny to hear for folk who never say even "you all." Richard Stringer wrote: It has something to do with pith hats and old land Rovers and running thru the jungle behind gun bearers wearing khaki shorts and singing "KumBaya :-D Man if only I could live that stereotype! p.s. There are very few jungles in South Africa. Mainly desert and savanah :)
Paul Watson
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Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.
small>Paul Watson wrote: Not from Texas. I guess you guys have very little culture to export, so you milk what you have... Hmmm . I guess we really do know more about SA than you know about the US. Actually there are several TV shows about Texas but probably the only one that would be suitable for export would be "Walker - Texas Ranger" which is pretty bad. Austin has a pretty good movie scene going with about 20 or so movies made each year. Just as a curiousity Texas accounts for 17% of the GDP of the whole US. So it is not exactly a backwards little provinance. Paul Watson wrote: If you don't mind me saying actually hearing a yank say "y'all" cracks me up. As I said Yank is kind of a derogatory term. I'm sure that a lot of little cultural things would crack you up. Did you know, for example . that the plural of yall is all yall :) We laugh at "bloke" and several other European English words to so I guess I can understand it. Ya really gotta be here to understand -Comprende Amigo ? Richard In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love; they had five hundred years of democracy and peace and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. Orson Welles
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: They could at least have the decency to serve chips *cough* I may be shunned for this (like anyone needs a new reason to shun me...), but i'm not a huge fan of chips. They're not *bad*, i'd just rather eat a potato prepared in almost any other way. Sliced wafer thin and fried covered in salt, they lose a lot, IMHO. Baked whole, mashed, whipped, or sliced into spears and fried, they are *much* improved... ...and yes, i do know you lot all call fries "chips" - but we're using that name for too many other things already. ---
My whole life I've practiced the art of self-sabotage -- fearing success perhaps even more than fearing failure. I think I have got this flareup resolved, but I'm constantly waiting to see what new and exciting ways I can spoil my chances for a better life. - koreykruse, Compulsive Skin Picking
Aha! The US-UK divide strikes again. :rolleyes: What you have there, my friend, is a crisp. Over here they usually come in a packet (except for Pringles :cool: ) and are flavoured: cheese & onion, barbeque, hedgehog (I kid you not - one company did these for a laugh once), etc. When I say chips I mean sliced potatoes, about 4 times the width of your fries and the same length, fried in oil. The usual condiments for me are ground black pepper and vinegar, but salt and vinegar is the tradition. Serve 'em with anything and it immediately qualifies it as an English dish. :-D Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk
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small>Paul Watson wrote: Not from Texas. I guess you guys have very little culture to export, so you milk what you have... Hmmm . I guess we really do know more about SA than you know about the US. Actually there are several TV shows about Texas but probably the only one that would be suitable for export would be "Walker - Texas Ranger" which is pretty bad. Austin has a pretty good movie scene going with about 20 or so movies made each year. Just as a curiousity Texas accounts for 17% of the GDP of the whole US. So it is not exactly a backwards little provinance. Paul Watson wrote: If you don't mind me saying actually hearing a yank say "y'all" cracks me up. As I said Yank is kind of a derogatory term. I'm sure that a lot of little cultural things would crack you up. Did you know, for example . that the plural of yall is all yall :) We laugh at "bloke" and several other European English words to so I guess I can understand it. Ya really gotta be here to understand -Comprende Amigo ? Richard In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love; they had five hundred years of democracy and peace and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. Orson Welles
Richard Stringer wrote: I guess we really do know more about SA than you know about the US. Actually there are several TV shows about Texas but probably the only one that would be suitable for export would be "Walker - Texas Ranger" which is pretty bad. Austin has a pretty good movie scene going with about 20 or so movies made each year. Just as a curiousity Texas accounts for 17% of the GDP of the whole US. So it is not exactly a backwards little provinance. Oh Richard, you have taken me completely wrong. I was taking the piss completely. Texans come off, as you so well show, as very proud to be Texan. Texas is THE state according to Texans. It just sets Texans up for ridicule really. I was just poking fun, no foul meant. Make fun of SA, I don't mind :) I do not know a lot about Texas, but then you don't know much about SA. The usual situation :)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.
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Aha! The US-UK divide strikes again. :rolleyes: What you have there, my friend, is a crisp. Over here they usually come in a packet (except for Pringles :cool: ) and are flavoured: cheese & onion, barbeque, hedgehog (I kid you not - one company did these for a laugh once), etc. When I say chips I mean sliced potatoes, about 4 times the width of your fries and the same length, fried in oil. The usual condiments for me are ground black pepper and vinegar, but salt and vinegar is the tradition. Serve 'em with anything and it immediately qualifies it as an English dish. :-D Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk
"Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: a crisp. == Pringles, "Tato Skins", etc., i.e., anything that is partially parts of potato, but isn't actually a slice or chip (Pringles uses potato flour). Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: When I say chips I mean sliced potatoes, about 4 times the width of your fries and the same length, fried in oil. Mmm, sounds good. These would be potato spears, or "American fries" here, or something close anyway (see the potato parts lurking behind the burger). Speaking of flavored [chips|crisps] - do you lot have the dill pickle flavored ones? Gotta be the best idea for a flavored chip out there, with the possible exception of sour cream & onion. ---
My whole life I've practiced the art of self-sabotage -- fearing success perhaps even more than fearing failure. I think I have got this flareup resolved, but I'm constantly waiting to see what new and exciting ways I can spoil my chances for a better life. - koreykruse, Compulsive Skin Picking
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: a crisp. == Pringles, "Tato Skins", etc., i.e., anything that is partially parts of potato, but isn't actually a slice or chip (Pringles uses potato flour). Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: When I say chips I mean sliced potatoes, about 4 times the width of your fries and the same length, fried in oil. Mmm, sounds good. These would be potato spears, or "American fries" here, or something close anyway (see the potato parts lurking behind the burger). Speaking of flavored [chips|crisps] - do you lot have the dill pickle flavored ones? Gotta be the best idea for a flavored chip out there, with the possible exception of sour cream & onion. ---
My whole life I've practiced the art of self-sabotage -- fearing success perhaps even more than fearing failure. I think I have got this flareup resolved, but I'm constantly waiting to see what new and exciting ways I can spoil my chances for a better life. - koreykruse, Compulsive Skin Picking
Shog9 wrote: == Pringles, "Tato Skins", etc., i.e., anything that is partially parts of potato, but isn't actually a slice or chip (Pringles uses potato flour). I didn't know Pringles used flour. You learn something new every day. :cool: Actually I was thinking of these[^]. Shog9 wrote: Mmm, sounds good. These would be potato spears, or "American fries" here, or something close anyway (see the potato parts lurking behind the burger). Nearly - those look like potato wedges to me! They're similar, but usually cooked with herbs. :cool: Here's the receipe: http://www.inmamaskitchen.com/RECIPES/RECIPES/Fish/fishandchips.html[^] Shog9 wrote: Speaking of flavored [chips|crisps] - do you lot have the dill pickle flavored ones? Gotta be the best idea for a flavored chip out there, with the possible exception of sour cream & onion. I'm pretty sure I have had them! Sour Cream & Onion and Cheese & Chives are favourites of mine. :) Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk
"Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
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