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  • C Chris Maunder

    I was thinking about the things that bug me and came up with a short list

    1. No comments. I know - let's have a religious war etc, but I find no comments dangerous.
    2. using o as a variable name. In fact using anything that's not sensible. ctx, dr_rfp_ptr, i2
    3. Bad formatting. It's like walking into a house and being unable to sit down because of empty pizza boxes on the couch
    4. Mystery side-effects in code.
    5. Magic numbers

    I'm guilty of 2 of these on occasion. What's your list?

    cheers Chris Maunder

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    Forogar
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    7. Having two different methods that do exactly the same thing but with the arguments in a different order. I have come across this at at least three different places I have worked. Which one to delete when refactoring?

    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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    • R R Giskard Reventlov

      My pet-peeves are all of those, especially comments where it is not immediately obvious what the intention of the code is. and 7: People that tell you their code is 'self-commenting'. :-(

      "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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      Nish Nishant
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      mark merrens wrote:

      People that tell you their code is 'self-commenting'.

      Sometimes, it is though.

      // check if user is valid
      if(IsUserValid(user))
      {
      // update the user
      UpdateUser(user);
      }
      else
      {
      // show a messagebox with an error
      MessageBox(error);
      }

      In that snippet, the comments are sorta annoying.

      Regards, Nish


      Latest article: Using the Microsoft Azure Storage Client Library for C++ Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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        mark merrens wrote:

        People that tell you their code is 'self-commenting'.

        Sometimes, it is though.

        // check if user is valid
        if(IsUserValid(user))
        {
        // update the user
        UpdateUser(user);
        }
        else
        {
        // show a messagebox with an error
        MessageBox(error);
        }

        In that snippet, the comments are sorta annoying.

        Regards, Nish


        Latest article: Using the Microsoft Azure Storage Client Library for C++ Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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        R Giskard Reventlov
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        But mostly, when they feel the need to tell you it is, it isn't.

        "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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        • C Chris Maunder

          I was thinking about the things that bug me and came up with a short list

          1. No comments. I know - let's have a religious war etc, but I find no comments dangerous.
          2. using o as a variable name. In fact using anything that's not sensible. ctx, dr_rfp_ptr, i2
          3. Bad formatting. It's like walking into a house and being unable to sit down because of empty pizza boxes on the couch
          4. Mystery side-effects in code.
          5. Magic numbers

          I'm guilty of 2 of these on occasion. What's your list?

          cheers Chris Maunder

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          PIEBALDconsult
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          In order of how I have them listed below: 0) Use of VB. 1) Use of Convert and/or ToString rather than casting and/or Parsing. 2) Over-use of Reflection. Not caching and reusing information retrieved via Reflection. 3) Over-reliance on tools, especially third-party tools. 4) Monolithic classes, lack of modularity, non-single-responsibility. 5) Singletons. X| 6) Convoluted concatenation -- a String.Format will be clearer. 6.1) Concatenated SQL statements, when a parameterized statement is better on so many levels. 7) Not leveraging interfaces. 8) Not allowing polymorphism for no apparent reason. 9) Swallowing Exceptions. 10) Posting snippets of code that use uncommon, custon, or third-party classes and expecting everyone to know what they are.

          You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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          • C Chris Maunder

            I was thinking about the things that bug me and came up with a short list

            1. No comments. I know - let's have a religious war etc, but I find no comments dangerous.
            2. using o as a variable name. In fact using anything that's not sensible. ctx, dr_rfp_ptr, i2
            3. Bad formatting. It's like walking into a house and being unable to sit down because of empty pizza boxes on the couch
            4. Mystery side-effects in code.
            5. Magic numbers

            I'm guilty of 2 of these on occasion. What's your list?

            cheers Chris Maunder

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            Lost User
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            If you need comments to explain what the code does, then the code is too complex. Formatting is a matter of taste, and there's a keyboard shortcut to automatically reformat in the VS-IDE. My worst programming habits;

            1. Removing the access modifier "private" from code, as it is redundant. Not a bad habit in my book, but apparently in everyone else's.
            2. Hitting F5 too regularly. Kills productivity if it takes 15 minutes to build.
            3. Reading CodeProject while building a solution. I cannot stare at the build-screen, especially since it does not provide adequate feedback on what it is doing. If it appears to be waiting for a long time then chances are that it gets killed using the task-manager.
            4. Coffee. With two suger, and two cups an hour, that adds to 32 lumps of suger.

            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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            • P PIEBALDconsult

              In order of how I have them listed below: 0) Use of VB. 1) Use of Convert and/or ToString rather than casting and/or Parsing. 2) Over-use of Reflection. Not caching and reusing information retrieved via Reflection. 3) Over-reliance on tools, especially third-party tools. 4) Monolithic classes, lack of modularity, non-single-responsibility. 5) Singletons. X| 6) Convoluted concatenation -- a String.Format will be clearer. 6.1) Concatenated SQL statements, when a parameterized statement is better on so many levels. 7) Not leveraging interfaces. 8) Not allowing polymorphism for no apparent reason. 9) Swallowing Exceptions. 10) Posting snippets of code that use uncommon, custon, or third-party classes and expecting everyone to know what they are.

              You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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              Marco Bertschi
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              PIEBALDconsult wrote:

              1. Singletons. X|

              I reckon valid use cases for singletons. Facade patterns, for example, especially in C++ code.

              PIEBALDconsult wrote:

              1. Use of Convert and/or ToString rather than casting and/or Parsing.

              I lost you there, can you please clarify?

              The console is a black place

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              • C Chris Maunder

                I was thinking about the things that bug me and came up with a short list

                1. No comments. I know - let's have a religious war etc, but I find no comments dangerous.
                2. using o as a variable name. In fact using anything that's not sensible. ctx, dr_rfp_ptr, i2
                3. Bad formatting. It's like walking into a house and being unable to sit down because of empty pizza boxes on the couch
                4. Mystery side-effects in code.
                5. Magic numbers

                I'm guilty of 2 of these on occasion. What's your list?

                cheers Chris Maunder

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                Lost User
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                - Wrong comments. Comments that pretend to explain the code, but the code and the explanation don't match. - Rambling comments. At least they're not wrong, but the useful part is hiding. - Unreachable code. Often mistaken for "defensive programming". Code that provably can't run is provably useless.

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                • P PIEBALDconsult

                  In order of how I have them listed below: 0) Use of VB. 1) Use of Convert and/or ToString rather than casting and/or Parsing. 2) Over-use of Reflection. Not caching and reusing information retrieved via Reflection. 3) Over-reliance on tools, especially third-party tools. 4) Monolithic classes, lack of modularity, non-single-responsibility. 5) Singletons. X| 6) Convoluted concatenation -- a String.Format will be clearer. 6.1) Concatenated SQL statements, when a parameterized statement is better on so many levels. 7) Not leveraging interfaces. 8) Not allowing polymorphism for no apparent reason. 9) Swallowing Exceptions. 10) Posting snippets of code that use uncommon, custon, or third-party classes and expecting everyone to know what they are.

                  You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                  Lost User
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                  PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                  6.1) Concatenated SQL statements

                  Revoke the programming license of anyone who does this.

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                  • C Chris Maunder

                    I was thinking about the things that bug me and came up with a short list

                    1. No comments. I know - let's have a religious war etc, but I find no comments dangerous.
                    2. using o as a variable name. In fact using anything that's not sensible. ctx, dr_rfp_ptr, i2
                    3. Bad formatting. It's like walking into a house and being unable to sit down because of empty pizza boxes on the couch
                    4. Mystery side-effects in code.
                    5. Magic numbers

                    I'm guilty of 2 of these on occasion. What's your list?

                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                    jeron1
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                    All that you listed, especially the magic numbers. I would add "Not checking return values", assuming things are going to work is a recipe for pain. OT:

                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                    site down

                    subconscious recollections of a nightmare? :)

                    "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      I was thinking about the things that bug me and came up with a short list

                      1. No comments. I know - let's have a religious war etc, but I find no comments dangerous.
                      2. using o as a variable name. In fact using anything that's not sensible. ctx, dr_rfp_ptr, i2
                      3. Bad formatting. It's like walking into a house and being unable to sit down because of empty pizza boxes on the couch
                      4. Mystery side-effects in code.
                      5. Magic numbers

                      I'm guilty of 2 of these on occasion. What's your list?

                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                      OriginalGriff
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                      I do #2, when I specifically have to work with an object Comments are my major bugbear: I enforce XML comments on all public methods (and add them to non-public ones) and have "warnings as errors" on, so I have to comment my methods as a bare minimum. The rest of the time, I reserve comments for where they are needed. 6) I hate comments that explain exactly what the code is telling you it is doing! I can read the code, dammit - I don't need you to put

                      if (customer.IsAnIdiot)
                      {
                      // If the customer is an idiot then we need to handle it.

                      1. Out of date comments. This gets my goat. Comments are there to help, when the code is complicated and more explanation is needed. So if you change the damn code, change the damn comments! Or you will hear the sound of a soft cough behind you, and it'll be me, with the ClueBat... 8) Variables names that don't reflect the use and / or purpose. Leaving control names at the VS default for example... ClueBat time!

                      Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        I was thinking about the things that bug me and came up with a short list

                        1. No comments. I know - let's have a religious war etc, but I find no comments dangerous.
                        2. using o as a variable name. In fact using anything that's not sensible. ctx, dr_rfp_ptr, i2
                        3. Bad formatting. It's like walking into a house and being unable to sit down because of empty pizza boxes on the couch
                        4. Mystery side-effects in code.
                        5. Magic numbers

                        I'm guilty of 2 of these on occasion. What's your list?

                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                        Maximilien
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                        ctrl-c/ctrl-v

                        I'd rather be phishing!

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                        • P PIEBALDconsult

                          In order of how I have them listed below: 0) Use of VB. 1) Use of Convert and/or ToString rather than casting and/or Parsing. 2) Over-use of Reflection. Not caching and reusing information retrieved via Reflection. 3) Over-reliance on tools, especially third-party tools. 4) Monolithic classes, lack of modularity, non-single-responsibility. 5) Singletons. X| 6) Convoluted concatenation -- a String.Format will be clearer. 6.1) Concatenated SQL statements, when a parameterized statement is better on so many levels. 7) Not leveraging interfaces. 8) Not allowing polymorphism for no apparent reason. 9) Swallowing Exceptions. 10) Posting snippets of code that use uncommon, custon, or third-party classes and expecting everyone to know what they are.

                          You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                          Jacquers
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                          6.1 - I had to work on code today of a developer that left us last year. He used concatenated SQL statements... :| This is where something like Entity Framework comes in handy - let it handle your sql inserts / updates. There was also a whole lot of other bad coding habits. I blame the university where he studied though, seems like they didn't teach him good coding standards.

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                          • C Chris Maunder

                            I was thinking about the things that bug me and came up with a short list

                            1. No comments. I know - let's have a religious war etc, but I find no comments dangerous.
                            2. using o as a variable name. In fact using anything that's not sensible. ctx, dr_rfp_ptr, i2
                            3. Bad formatting. It's like walking into a house and being unable to sit down because of empty pizza boxes on the couch
                            4. Mystery side-effects in code.
                            5. Magic numbers

                            I'm guilty of 2 of these on occasion. What's your list?

                            cheers Chris Maunder

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                            dan sh
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                            I am currently working on something that has massive presence of #1, 2 and 4. Other than that I totally hate if someone mixes up naming conventions. I have my favorites but I am OK with any convention. Just stick to single bloody way. Other than that, for some reason, heavily parameterized methods and constructors to bother me. I also totally hate logic and calculations in constructors (unless that is really needed).

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                            • C Chris Maunder

                              I was thinking about the things that bug me and came up with a short list

                              1. No comments. I know - let's have a religious war etc, but I find no comments dangerous.
                              2. using o as a variable name. In fact using anything that's not sensible. ctx, dr_rfp_ptr, i2
                              3. Bad formatting. It's like walking into a house and being unable to sit down because of empty pizza boxes on the couch
                              4. Mystery side-effects in code.
                              5. Magic numbers

                              I'm guilty of 2 of these on occasion. What's your list?

                              cheers Chris Maunder

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                              JMK NI
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                              Not sealing classes by default/crazy overuse of inheritance Just because something needs something else doesn't mean it is a base class of that other thing, I think in a modern programming language you rarely actually need to use inheritance Also, Code that does nothing, but hasn't been taken out of the project, eugh I rarely comment my code unless I am doing something weird, I assume the next developer will be at least as smart as me, if not much much smarter (likely) I might use o as a variable name if I'm maybe inside a for loop inside another for loop (using i for the outer one), everybody should know what for(var i = 0; i < blah; i++) means, anything more descriptive is a waste of keystrokes Everything else I agree with

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                                If you need comments to explain what the code does, then the code is too complex. Formatting is a matter of taste, and there's a keyboard shortcut to automatically reformat in the VS-IDE. My worst programming habits;

                                1. Removing the access modifier "private" from code, as it is redundant. Not a bad habit in my book, but apparently in everyone else's.
                                2. Hitting F5 too regularly. Kills productivity if it takes 15 minutes to build.
                                3. Reading CodeProject while building a solution. I cannot stare at the build-screen, especially since it does not provide adequate feedback on what it is doing. If it appears to be waiting for a long time then chances are that it gets killed using the task-manager.
                                4. Coffee. With two suger, and two cups an hour, that adds to 32 lumps of suger.

                                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                                PIEBALDconsult
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                                Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                Removing the access modifier "private" from code

                                There should be no default access modifiers; the developer's intent should be clearly specified. I don't want to have to guess, and you don't want me to keep asking you. Specify it, and decrease the hit to your own productivity caused by your juniors.

                                You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                • C Chris Maunder

                                  I was thinking about the things that bug me and came up with a short list

                                  1. No comments. I know - let's have a religious war etc, but I find no comments dangerous.
                                  2. using o as a variable name. In fact using anything that's not sensible. ctx, dr_rfp_ptr, i2
                                  3. Bad formatting. It's like walking into a house and being unable to sit down because of empty pizza boxes on the couch
                                  4. Mystery side-effects in code.
                                  5. Magic numbers

                                  I'm guilty of 2 of these on occasion. What's your list?

                                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                                  Gary Wheeler
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                                  Misspelled identifiers. Inconsistent naming for related items. C++ header files that group things by their access method (public:, protected:, private:) rather than putting related items together. Hungarian notation should die in a fire.

                                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                                    Not sealing classes by default/crazy overuse of inheritance Just because something needs something else doesn't mean it is a base class of that other thing, I think in a modern programming language you rarely actually need to use inheritance Also, Code that does nothing, but hasn't been taken out of the project, eugh I rarely comment my code unless I am doing something weird, I assume the next developer will be at least as smart as me, if not much much smarter (likely) I might use o as a variable name if I'm maybe inside a for loop inside another for loop (using i for the outer one), everybody should know what for(var i = 0; i < blah; i++) means, anything more descriptive is a waste of keystrokes Everything else I agree with

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                                    dan sh
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                                    Use of var is justifiable? In my useless opinion, var is useless in .Net framework World.

                                    My CP workspace: Incredibly trivial and probably useless code samples[^]

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                                      If you need comments to explain what the code does, then the code is too complex. Formatting is a matter of taste, and there's a keyboard shortcut to automatically reformat in the VS-IDE. My worst programming habits;

                                      1. Removing the access modifier "private" from code, as it is redundant. Not a bad habit in my book, but apparently in everyone else's.
                                      2. Hitting F5 too regularly. Kills productivity if it takes 15 minutes to build.
                                      3. Reading CodeProject while building a solution. I cannot stare at the build-screen, especially since it does not provide adequate feedback on what it is doing. If it appears to be waiting for a long time then chances are that it gets killed using the task-manager.
                                      4. Coffee. With two suger, and two cups an hour, that adds to 32 lumps of suger.

                                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                                      Dave Kreskowiak
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                                      I gotta call foul on removing the private access specifier. In C# the default is private while in VB it's Public. I absolutely hate that and really dont want to have to remember what the defaults ars supposed to be when scanning over code for problems.

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                                        Not sealing classes by default/crazy overuse of inheritance Just because something needs something else doesn't mean it is a base class of that other thing, I think in a modern programming language you rarely actually need to use inheritance Also, Code that does nothing, but hasn't been taken out of the project, eugh I rarely comment my code unless I am doing something weird, I assume the next developer will be at least as smart as me, if not much much smarter (likely) I might use o as a variable name if I'm maybe inside a for loop inside another for loop (using i for the outer one), everybody should know what for(var i = 0; i < blah; i++) means, anything more descriptive is a waste of keystrokes Everything else I agree with

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                                        Lost User
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                                        That var is obviously an int, and you didn't even save any characters there..

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                                          Misspelled identifiers. Inconsistent naming for related items. C++ header files that group things by their access method (public:, protected:, private:) rather than putting related items together. Hungarian notation should die in a fire.

                                          Software Zen: delete this;

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                                          PIEBALDconsult
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                                          Gary Wheeler wrote:

                                          Hungarian notation should die in a fire

                                          That's too good for it. However, have you read this: Making Wrong Code Look Wrong by Joel Spolsky[^]

                                          You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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