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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    It was ground breaking, but the stories were a little...simple. And the ending was kinda predictable. But I still loved it, and indeed do. But favorite? I'm not sure. Better than Next Gen, better than Enterprise. But DS9 when it was working well? I don't think so - DS9 gave a better sense of "depth", of a "real" galaxy and with story arcs that continued across whole series it was better in some ways. Of course, it also had Quark...and no Uhura... But Voyager was good as well - once they dumped Kes (and they should have dropped Nelix in a black hole, annoying worm that he was). So I can't say the original was best - but the remake of the original is shaping up well from the two movies so far!

    Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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    OriginalGriff wrote:

    the remake of the original is shaping up well from the two movies so far

    Yes, really rather good. They are, of course, predictable nonsense but really good fun. It did take me a good few years to realize that Star Trek probably wasn't a documentary.

    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      It was ground breaking, but the stories were a little...simple. And the ending was kinda predictable. But I still loved it, and indeed do. But favorite? I'm not sure. Better than Next Gen, better than Enterprise. But DS9 when it was working well? I don't think so - DS9 gave a better sense of "depth", of a "real" galaxy and with story arcs that continued across whole series it was better in some ways. Of course, it also had Quark...and no Uhura... But Voyager was good as well - once they dumped Kes (and they should have dropped Nelix in a black hole, annoying worm that he was). So I can't say the original was best - but the remake of the original is shaping up well from the two movies so far!

      Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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      OriginalGriff wrote:

      But Voyager was good as well - once they dumped Kes

      Not least because that's when a certain crew-member[^] joined. :-D If you've got access to the annoyingly-named "SyFy" channel, they're showing TNG, DS9 and Voyager every weeknight.


      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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      • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

        OriginalGriff wrote:

        But Voyager was good as well - once they dumped Kes

        Not least because that's when a certain crew-member[^] joined. :-D If you've got access to the annoyingly-named "SyFy" channel, they're showing TNG, DS9 and Voyager every weeknight.


        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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        Oh, she certainly helped! :omg: One of my favorite spoofs[^]

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          mark merrens wrote:

          the 2nd pilot for Star Trek

          Where? The last time I looked for it Netflix didn't have it.

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          Ron Nicholson
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          I have netflix and it is there now. Should be the second episode in their list. I'll look tonight to make sure, but I have it in my list. :-D

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            So, still got a bit of jet lag and was up at 0400, wide awake, even though I didn't go to bed till about 2345. What, I thought, should I do? So I made some tea and toast and proceeded to watch the 2nd pilot for Star Trek. It was actually pretty good other than Spock just shouting all of his lines. What I did notice, for the first time, was that Kirk's tombstone read James R Kirk, not James T. I'm sure I've watched that episode multiple times and never spotted that before. Still the best of all the ST series. My favorite episode is "Tomorrow is Yesterday".

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            I'd have to say Star Trek the Next Generation is my favorite of all the spins and The Inner Light [^] my favorite episode. Scroll down and click on the last photo!

            If first you don't succeed, hide all evidence you ever tried!

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            • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

              I'd have to say Star Trek the Next Generation is my favorite of all the spins and The Inner Light [^] my favorite episode. Scroll down and click on the last photo!

              If first you don't succeed, hide all evidence you ever tried!

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              what, the flute ?

              I'd rather be phishing!

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              • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                I'd have to say Star Trek the Next Generation is my favorite of all the spins and The Inner Light [^] my favorite episode. Scroll down and click on the last photo!

                If first you don't succeed, hide all evidence you ever tried!

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                Yes, that was a good episode. I also liked any episode with the Borg or Q.

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                • R R Giskard Reventlov

                  Yes, that was a good episode. I also liked any episode with the Borg or Q.

                  "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                  Yeah I liked Q's hi-jinx, they were always unusual!

                  If first you don't succeed, hide all evidence you ever tried!

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                    what, the flute ?

                    I'd rather be phishing!

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                    Mike Hankey
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                    Turns out that's not the only thing he blows. :rolleyes:

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                    • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                      OriginalGriff wrote:

                      But Voyager was good as well - once they dumped Kes

                      Not least because that's when a certain crew-member[^] joined. :-D If you've got access to the annoyingly-named "SyFy" channel, they're showing TNG, DS9 and Voyager every weeknight.


                      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                      She's okay but I much prefer T'Pol[^]

                      "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                      • R R Giskard Reventlov

                        She's okay but I much prefer T'Pol[^]

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                        T'Pol gets my vote too. :thumbsup:

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                        • R R Giskard Reventlov

                          Yes, that was a good episode. I also liked any episode with the Borg or Q.

                          "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                          PIEBALDconsult
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                          I find it odd that the Borg just kinda went away with no explanation.

                          You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                            I find it odd that the Borg just kinda went away with no explanation.

                            You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                            Weren't they effectively destroyed in the final episode of Voyager when Janeway from the future enabled earlier Janeway to blow up the trans warp conduits?

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                              Weren't they effectively destroyed in the final episode of Voyager when Janeway from the future enabled earlier Janeway to blow up the trans warp conduits?

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                              PIEBALDconsult
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                              I do not recall that. I do need to re-watch Voyager, but I'm doing Mission Impossible now.

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                                I do not recall that. I do need to re-watch Voyager, but I'm doing Mission Impossible now.

                                You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                Endgame, part 1 [^]

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                                  mark merrens wrote:

                                  My favorite episode is "Tomorrow is Yesterday".

                                  Now you have done it. I'm going to grab a random DVD and see which episodes I am going to watch tonight. Edit: Just one episode from season 2 on this DVD: The Trouble With Tribbles :-)

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                                  CDP1802 wrote:

                                  Edit: Just one episode from season 2 on this DVD: The Trouble With Tribbles

                                  The wonderful thing about tribbles, is tribbles are wonderful things... AAAND I can't think how to finish that one.

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                                    OriginalGriff wrote:

                                    the remake of the original is shaping up well from the two movies so far

                                    Yes, really rather good. They are, of course, predictable nonsense but really good fun. It did take me a good few years to realize that Star Trek probably wasn't a documentary.

                                    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                                    mark merrens wrote:

                                    Star Trek probably wasn't a documentary

                                    It's not  :(( ?

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                                      So, still got a bit of jet lag and was up at 0400, wide awake, even though I didn't go to bed till about 2345. What, I thought, should I do? So I made some tea and toast and proceeded to watch the 2nd pilot for Star Trek. It was actually pretty good other than Spock just shouting all of his lines. What I did notice, for the first time, was that Kirk's tombstone read James R Kirk, not James T. I'm sure I've watched that episode multiple times and never spotted that before. Still the best of all the ST series. My favorite episode is "Tomorrow is Yesterday".

                                      "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                                      Favorite episode: The Doomsday Machine, hands down.

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                                        So, still got a bit of jet lag and was up at 0400, wide awake, even though I didn't go to bed till about 2345. What, I thought, should I do? So I made some tea and toast and proceeded to watch the 2nd pilot for Star Trek. It was actually pretty good other than Spock just shouting all of his lines. What I did notice, for the first time, was that Kirk's tombstone read James R Kirk, not James T. I'm sure I've watched that episode multiple times and never spotted that before. Still the best of all the ST series. My favorite episode is "Tomorrow is Yesterday".

                                        "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                                        I recently re-watched the animated series. I don't think I really ever had seen all the episodes, nor do I remember them like the original series, and I wanted to follow along with Mission Log Podcast who was reviewing them at the time. The episodes are rushed to fit a half hour format. The animation is just horrible. The music is reused so many times that you start to hum along even before it's cued. And I invented a new drinking game: Every time James Doohan voices another character, you have to take a drink. What I didn't realize watching it as a kid was just how much the stories and dialog were meant for adults. Even the diction seems beyond most live action TV today. And it's interesting how some of the story elements have been reused in later episodes and movies. BTW, if you're looking for some new old-school Star Trek, check out Star Trek Continues. I normally never find fan films interesting, but these guys really do a good job.

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                                          So, still got a bit of jet lag and was up at 0400, wide awake, even though I didn't go to bed till about 2345. What, I thought, should I do? So I made some tea and toast and proceeded to watch the 2nd pilot for Star Trek. It was actually pretty good other than Spock just shouting all of his lines. What I did notice, for the first time, was that Kirk's tombstone read James R Kirk, not James T. I'm sure I've watched that episode multiple times and never spotted that before. Still the best of all the ST series. My favorite episode is "Tomorrow is Yesterday".

                                          "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                                          After recently watching nearly all of the series, I think my overall favorite was Enterprise, once it got going. In the beginning it was pretty rough, but about midway through the second season it started getting better. Can't really pick a favorite episode really as I enjoyed most of them. Phlox was overall my favorite character. I bought the original series on Blu-Ray (so far the only "canon" Trek series I own - I also have The Animated Series). I hadn't seen them in years. The show still holds up pretty well, actually. I especially loved The Doomsday Machine, The City on the Edge of Forever and Tomorrow is Yesterday. The remastered effects are pretty damn good, and I loved watching the series that one of the secondary actors filmed while on set during the series' run. Side note: Kirk's full name - James Tiberius Kirk - was revealed in an episode of the Filmation animated series (Bem), along with several other staples of Star Trek ("Beam me aboard" being another). While it's not considered "canon," it contributed quite a bit to Trek lore and included a few sequels to TOS episodes like More Tribbles, More Troubles and Mudd's Passion. TNG had some good episodes, but I was especially fond of Q-Who for introducing the Borg, and Best of Both Worlds for Locutus. And subsequently hated First Contact for turning the Borg into the xenomorphs from Aliens and Voyager for completely nerfing the Borg by the end of the series. To me the Borg were far creepier when they didn't have a queen or when they couldn't insta-assimilate the crew. One of the strongest scenes in Best of Both Worlds is watching Picard's horror as he is slowly assimilated into the collective. DS9 had a slow start, but by the third season really hit its stride. I didn't much like DS9's stand-alone episodes. The show worked best when it continued the Dominion arc. The only side journey I really liked were the mirror universe episodes. Also, it seemed like they pretty much dropped Sisko as the profit until the very end of the series, when they just suddenly decided it was important again. It was in the background, but I would have liked to see more done with it over the course of the series. Overall, Voyager is my least favorite series. Not because of Janeway, she rocked. Chakotay was a great character as well. But some of the other characters were just awful. Tuvok, Kes, Neelix, Seven, Harry and Tom just grated on me for various reasons. Tom worked best in his Captain Proton episodes, but otherwise was just a jerk, Kim was just there most of th

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