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  • realJSOPR Offline
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    realJSOP
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    A friend bought a new Win 8.0 laptop, and asked me to set it up for him. I tried to update to IE 11, and was greeted with a message that I had to upgrade to 8.1 in order to uupgrade to IE11. ABSURD! IE11 runs fine on Win7 so why do I need 8.1 to install it on a newer version of the OS?! My first action was to try to update it to 8.1, but it wouldn't let me do that until I'd applied updates first. ABSURD! Updating to 8.1 should apply the missing updates in the process of "upgrading"! So I went to apply Windows updates. Of course there were a slew of them (101 to be exact), so I simply selected them all and let it go. 30 minutes later, it rebooted and spent the next 1.5 hours configuring the updates, only to displayy a message claiming that the configurtation failed, and that it was going to revert changes - which took another 1.5 hours. So, I had to applie all of the updates two or three at a time - which took another two hours. Finaly I was able to upgrade to 81. - which took over THREE HOURS! I started at 9am and didn't finish this until 5pm! FRAK! I tried to install MSSE and it told me that Win8 already had Windows Defender on it and didn't need MSSE. How is it that Windows Defender is all I need on Win8, but Win7 needs MSSE and Windows Defender? WTF?!

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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    • realJSOPR realJSOP

      A friend bought a new Win 8.0 laptop, and asked me to set it up for him. I tried to update to IE 11, and was greeted with a message that I had to upgrade to 8.1 in order to uupgrade to IE11. ABSURD! IE11 runs fine on Win7 so why do I need 8.1 to install it on a newer version of the OS?! My first action was to try to update it to 8.1, but it wouldn't let me do that until I'd applied updates first. ABSURD! Updating to 8.1 should apply the missing updates in the process of "upgrading"! So I went to apply Windows updates. Of course there were a slew of them (101 to be exact), so I simply selected them all and let it go. 30 minutes later, it rebooted and spent the next 1.5 hours configuring the updates, only to displayy a message claiming that the configurtation failed, and that it was going to revert changes - which took another 1.5 hours. So, I had to applie all of the updates two or three at a time - which took another two hours. Finaly I was able to upgrade to 81. - which took over THREE HOURS! I started at 9am and didn't finish this until 5pm! FRAK! I tried to install MSSE and it told me that Win8 already had Windows Defender on it and didn't need MSSE. How is it that Windows Defender is all I need on Win8, but Win7 needs MSSE and Windows Defender? WTF?!

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
      -----
      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
      -----
      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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      chriselst
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      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

      I tried to install MSSE and it told me that Win8 already had Windows Defender on it and didn't need MSSE. How is it that Windows Defender is all I need on Win8, but Win7 needs MSSE and Windows Defender? WTF?!

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      • realJSOPR realJSOP

        A friend bought a new Win 8.0 laptop, and asked me to set it up for him. I tried to update to IE 11, and was greeted with a message that I had to upgrade to 8.1 in order to uupgrade to IE11. ABSURD! IE11 runs fine on Win7 so why do I need 8.1 to install it on a newer version of the OS?! My first action was to try to update it to 8.1, but it wouldn't let me do that until I'd applied updates first. ABSURD! Updating to 8.1 should apply the missing updates in the process of "upgrading"! So I went to apply Windows updates. Of course there were a slew of them (101 to be exact), so I simply selected them all and let it go. 30 minutes later, it rebooted and spent the next 1.5 hours configuring the updates, only to displayy a message claiming that the configurtation failed, and that it was going to revert changes - which took another 1.5 hours. So, I had to applie all of the updates two or three at a time - which took another two hours. Finaly I was able to upgrade to 81. - which took over THREE HOURS! I started at 9am and didn't finish this until 5pm! FRAK! I tried to install MSSE and it told me that Win8 already had Windows Defender on it and didn't need MSSE. How is it that Windows Defender is all I need on Win8, but Win7 needs MSSE and Windows Defender? WTF?!

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
        -----
        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
        -----
        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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        Abu Mami
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        I'm so glad I moved to a Macbook Pro. Only problem is I need to sometimes run Windows 7 on a VM. Bummer. I love my Mac though.

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          A friend bought a new Win 8.0 laptop, and asked me to set it up for him. I tried to update to IE 11, and was greeted with a message that I had to upgrade to 8.1 in order to uupgrade to IE11. ABSURD! IE11 runs fine on Win7 so why do I need 8.1 to install it on a newer version of the OS?! My first action was to try to update it to 8.1, but it wouldn't let me do that until I'd applied updates first. ABSURD! Updating to 8.1 should apply the missing updates in the process of "upgrading"! So I went to apply Windows updates. Of course there were a slew of them (101 to be exact), so I simply selected them all and let it go. 30 minutes later, it rebooted and spent the next 1.5 hours configuring the updates, only to displayy a message claiming that the configurtation failed, and that it was going to revert changes - which took another 1.5 hours. So, I had to applie all of the updates two or three at a time - which took another two hours. Finaly I was able to upgrade to 81. - which took over THREE HOURS! I started at 9am and didn't finish this until 5pm! FRAK! I tried to install MSSE and it told me that Win8 already had Windows Defender on it and didn't need MSSE. How is it that Windows Defender is all I need on Win8, but Win7 needs MSSE and Windows Defender? WTF?!

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
          -----
          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
          -----
          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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          glennPattonWork3
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          I did exactly the same thing on Saturday with MSSE, a little more Windows and a little less Metro would be good! I am still unsure about MSSE and am thinking of some third part AV (other than Norton!) :)

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          • realJSOPR realJSOP

            A friend bought a new Win 8.0 laptop, and asked me to set it up for him. I tried to update to IE 11, and was greeted with a message that I had to upgrade to 8.1 in order to uupgrade to IE11. ABSURD! IE11 runs fine on Win7 so why do I need 8.1 to install it on a newer version of the OS?! My first action was to try to update it to 8.1, but it wouldn't let me do that until I'd applied updates first. ABSURD! Updating to 8.1 should apply the missing updates in the process of "upgrading"! So I went to apply Windows updates. Of course there were a slew of them (101 to be exact), so I simply selected them all and let it go. 30 minutes later, it rebooted and spent the next 1.5 hours configuring the updates, only to displayy a message claiming that the configurtation failed, and that it was going to revert changes - which took another 1.5 hours. So, I had to applie all of the updates two or three at a time - which took another two hours. Finaly I was able to upgrade to 81. - which took over THREE HOURS! I started at 9am and didn't finish this until 5pm! FRAK! I tried to install MSSE and it told me that Win8 already had Windows Defender on it and didn't need MSSE. How is it that Windows Defender is all I need on Win8, but Win7 needs MSSE and Windows Defender? WTF?!

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
            -----
            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
            -----
            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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            Brisingr Aerowing
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            Windows Defender on Win8 has MSSE already integrated into it, so an external install is not required.

            What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?

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            • realJSOPR realJSOP

              A friend bought a new Win 8.0 laptop, and asked me to set it up for him. I tried to update to IE 11, and was greeted with a message that I had to upgrade to 8.1 in order to uupgrade to IE11. ABSURD! IE11 runs fine on Win7 so why do I need 8.1 to install it on a newer version of the OS?! My first action was to try to update it to 8.1, but it wouldn't let me do that until I'd applied updates first. ABSURD! Updating to 8.1 should apply the missing updates in the process of "upgrading"! So I went to apply Windows updates. Of course there were a slew of them (101 to be exact), so I simply selected them all and let it go. 30 minutes later, it rebooted and spent the next 1.5 hours configuring the updates, only to displayy a message claiming that the configurtation failed, and that it was going to revert changes - which took another 1.5 hours. So, I had to applie all of the updates two or three at a time - which took another two hours. Finaly I was able to upgrade to 81. - which took over THREE HOURS! I started at 9am and didn't finish this until 5pm! FRAK! I tried to install MSSE and it told me that Win8 already had Windows Defender on it and didn't need MSSE. How is it that Windows Defender is all I need on Win8, but Win7 needs MSSE and Windows Defender? WTF?!

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
              -----
              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
              -----
              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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              Sander Rossel
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              Windows 8 didn't only suck on saturday :)

              It's an OO world.

              public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
              {
              public void DoWork()
              {
              throw new NotSupportedException();
              }
              }

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                I'm so glad I moved to a Macbook Pro. Only problem is I need to sometimes run Windows 7 on a VM. Bummer. I love my Mac though.

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                ScottM1
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                Everybody I've met with a Mac claims that it's great but all of them are running Windows 7 on it along with the Mac OS. That seems like a horrible way to work to me.

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                  Everybody I've met with a Mac claims that it's great but all of them are running Windows 7 on it along with the Mac OS. That seems like a horrible way to work to me.

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                  Lost User
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                  ScottM1 wrote:

                  That seems like a horrible way to work to me.

                  OSX is a great operating system. So is Windows 7. Swapping between them to use the best application for the job is a luxury not a problem.

                  Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington

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                    Everybody I've met with a Mac claims that it's great but all of them are running Windows 7 on it along with the Mac OS. That seems like a horrible way to work to me.

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                    Abu Mami
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                    ScottM1 wrote:

                    That seems like a horrible way to work to me.

                    No, not really. The Parallels Desktop VM running on my Macbook Pro runs great. I try to avoid working on Windows in any case since I like the Mac OS much better. But, sometimes work intervenes and I have no choice.

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      A friend bought a new Win 8.0 laptop, and asked me to set it up for him. I tried to update to IE 11, and was greeted with a message that I had to upgrade to 8.1 in order to uupgrade to IE11. ABSURD! IE11 runs fine on Win7 so why do I need 8.1 to install it on a newer version of the OS?! My first action was to try to update it to 8.1, but it wouldn't let me do that until I'd applied updates first. ABSURD! Updating to 8.1 should apply the missing updates in the process of "upgrading"! So I went to apply Windows updates. Of course there were a slew of them (101 to be exact), so I simply selected them all and let it go. 30 minutes later, it rebooted and spent the next 1.5 hours configuring the updates, only to displayy a message claiming that the configurtation failed, and that it was going to revert changes - which took another 1.5 hours. So, I had to applie all of the updates two or three at a time - which took another two hours. Finaly I was able to upgrade to 81. - which took over THREE HOURS! I started at 9am and didn't finish this until 5pm! FRAK! I tried to install MSSE and it told me that Win8 already had Windows Defender on it and didn't need MSSE. How is it that Windows Defender is all I need on Win8, but Win7 needs MSSE and Windows Defender? WTF?!

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                      -----
                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                      -----
                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                      Chris Maunder
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                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                      I tried to update to IE 11

                      <cheap shot> I think I see the problem. </cheap shot>

                      cheers Chris Maunder

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