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    Sander Rossel
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    So I just re-installed my PC. Completely. I formatted all disk drives and created a clean partition. So when all is good and done I download Chrome, login to my Google account and check out CodeProject. I login and, what do you know, Google remembered my password... I always thought passwords were stored on the local computer (you know, security and safety and such). To make passwords roaming wouldn't they need to be stored on a server somewhere, unencrypted? Apparently Google just knows all my passwords. Even after a clean install. I can check them out right there in my settings. All of them. So if I can just request all my passwords from anywhere wouldn't everyone be able to request my passwords from anywhere... Given they have my credentials?

    It's an OO world.

    public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
    {
    public void DoWork()
    {
    throw new NotSupportedException();
    }
    }

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    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      So I just re-installed my PC. Completely. I formatted all disk drives and created a clean partition. So when all is good and done I download Chrome, login to my Google account and check out CodeProject. I login and, what do you know, Google remembered my password... I always thought passwords were stored on the local computer (you know, security and safety and such). To make passwords roaming wouldn't they need to be stored on a server somewhere, unencrypted? Apparently Google just knows all my passwords. Even after a clean install. I can check them out right there in my settings. All of them. So if I can just request all my passwords from anywhere wouldn't everyone be able to request my passwords from anywhere... Given they have my credentials?

      It's an OO world.

      public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
      {
      public void DoWork()
      {
      throw new NotSupportedException();
      }
      }

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      JMK NI
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      The same thing applies to your browsing history, learned that the hard way (home browsing history showing up on work pc, looked like I had been in the office at 2AM looking up...stuff)

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      • J JMK NI

        The same thing applies to your browsing history, learned that the hard way (home browsing history showing up on work pc, looked like I had been in the office at 2AM looking up...stuff)

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        Mycroft Holmes
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        Oh shit that is going to cause some ructions!

        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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          Oh shit that is going to cause some ructions!

          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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          JMK NI
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          Indeed, literally check your Gmail at work on Chrome and it will helpfully sync your browsing history from home.

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          • J JMK NI

            Indeed, literally check your Gmail at work on Chrome and it will helpfully sync your browsing history from home.

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            Mycroft Holmes
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            HomerTheGreat wrote:

            literally check your Gmail at work

            Phew that's a relief, GMail (and all web mail systems) is blocked at work, for once I can be grateful to the net nazi that plagues my system.

            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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            • M Mycroft Holmes

              HomerTheGreat wrote:

              literally check your Gmail at work

              Phew that's a relief, GMail (and all web mail systems) is blocked at work, for once I can be grateful to the net nazi that plagues my system.

              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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              JMK NI
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              Do you sign into other services (ie StackOverflow) with your Google ID? I have worked places before where I couldn't login to GMail, but could use my Google ID on other websites, I think that's enough.

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                Do you sign into other services (ie StackOverflow) with your Google ID? I have worked places before where I couldn't login to GMail, but could use my Google ID on other websites, I think that's enough.

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                Mycroft Holmes
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                HomerTheGreat wrote:

                Do you sign into other services (ie StackOverflow) with your Google ID

                Nah my paranoia won't let me use single identities across different platforms, besides as a contractor my work identity is (or used to be) a temporary thing.

                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                • J JMK NI

                  The same thing applies to your browsing history, learned that the hard way (home browsing history showing up on work pc, looked like I had been in the office at 2AM looking up...stuff)

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                  GSN CP
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                  you should consider creating a separate gmail account for personal needs.. ;P :laugh:

                  .:>GSN<:.

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                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                    So I just re-installed my PC. Completely. I formatted all disk drives and created a clean partition. So when all is good and done I download Chrome, login to my Google account and check out CodeProject. I login and, what do you know, Google remembered my password... I always thought passwords were stored on the local computer (you know, security and safety and such). To make passwords roaming wouldn't they need to be stored on a server somewhere, unencrypted? Apparently Google just knows all my passwords. Even after a clean install. I can check them out right there in my settings. All of them. So if I can just request all my passwords from anywhere wouldn't everyone be able to request my passwords from anywhere... Given they have my credentials?

                    It's an OO world.

                    public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                    {
                    public void DoWork()
                    {
                    throw new NotSupportedException();
                    }
                    }

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                    Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                    #9

                    Chrome initial setup does an auto-sync with your Gmail account. This should have done the trick for you behind the scenes.

                    Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage You can not step into the same river twice.

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                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                      So I just re-installed my PC. Completely. I formatted all disk drives and created a clean partition. So when all is good and done I download Chrome, login to my Google account and check out CodeProject. I login and, what do you know, Google remembered my password... I always thought passwords were stored on the local computer (you know, security and safety and such). To make passwords roaming wouldn't they need to be stored on a server somewhere, unencrypted? Apparently Google just knows all my passwords. Even after a clean install. I can check them out right there in my settings. All of them. So if I can just request all my passwords from anywhere wouldn't everyone be able to request my passwords from anywhere... Given they have my credentials?

                      It's an OO world.

                      public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                      {
                      public void DoWork()
                      {
                      throw new NotSupportedException();
                      }
                      }

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                      irneb
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                      It's actually one of the issues I have with Chrome. It syncs nearly everything by default - you need to turn it off if you don't want it to. Firefox is the other way round, it's default is to not sync everything - you need to turn it on if you want it. It's even worse with stuff like Google Desktop - that knows everything you've ever done on your PC (what programs you've installed, what files you've opened, I've even seen targeted adverts keyed to something written in Word but not sent in any online form). Though my rule of thumb: don't save your passwords. I know, I know ... not the easiest thing in the world ... but if you're paranoid :~ then you need to compromise.

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                      • J JMK NI

                        Do you sign into other services (ie StackOverflow) with your Google ID? I have worked places before where I couldn't login to GMail, but could use my Google ID on other websites, I think that's enough.

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                        Simon ORiordan from UK
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                        I requested they delete my Google ID. They didn't. So I signed out of google+. I hate Chrome, I don't use gmail except to buy things for my Android tablet. For the past few weeks I have enjoyed the sight of youtube(which I've also orphaned - I use Vimeo now)fading away from any relevance as it is unable to track my choices. It's like watching the Wicked Witch of the West melt. Most satisfying. Don't be evil? Who says Americans don't get irony? :)

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                          It's actually one of the issues I have with Chrome. It syncs nearly everything by default - you need to turn it off if you don't want it to. Firefox is the other way round, it's default is to not sync everything - you need to turn it on if you want it. It's even worse with stuff like Google Desktop - that knows everything you've ever done on your PC (what programs you've installed, what files you've opened, I've even seen targeted adverts keyed to something written in Word but not sent in any online form). Though my rule of thumb: don't save your passwords. I know, I know ... not the easiest thing in the world ... but if you're paranoid :~ then you need to compromise.

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                          Simon ORiordan from UK
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                          // START_DEFINITION /*These variables define terms and websites relating to the TAILs (The Amnesic Incognito Live System) software program, a comsec mechanism advocated by extremists on extremist forums. */ According to the NSA that is. I've used Tails. I like Tails. I've beta-tested Tails 1.1 and like the fact that you can disguise it as Windows 8. I've recommended it to people who were being hassled. I've eveded the block on Pirate Bay using it(to view the catalogue only of course). While Google assumes the position and takes it like a man, we in the real world are labelled extremist.:suss:

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                          • J JMK NI

                            The same thing applies to your browsing history, learned that the hard way (home browsing history showing up on work pc, looked like I had been in the office at 2AM looking up...stuff)

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                            Sander Rossel
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                            Ouch... I think I'll be double-checking my Google settings today... :omg:

                            It's an OO world.

                            public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                            {
                            public void DoWork()
                            {
                            throw new NotSupportedException();
                            }
                            }

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                            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                              So I just re-installed my PC. Completely. I formatted all disk drives and created a clean partition. So when all is good and done I download Chrome, login to my Google account and check out CodeProject. I login and, what do you know, Google remembered my password... I always thought passwords were stored on the local computer (you know, security and safety and such). To make passwords roaming wouldn't they need to be stored on a server somewhere, unencrypted? Apparently Google just knows all my passwords. Even after a clean install. I can check them out right there in my settings. All of them. So if I can just request all my passwords from anywhere wouldn't everyone be able to request my passwords from anywhere... Given they have my credentials?

                              It's an OO world.

                              public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                              {
                              public void DoWork()
                              {
                              throw new NotSupportedException();
                              }
                              }

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                              9082365
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                              Quote:

                              Given they have my credentials?

                              So nobody gonna comment on this? All Google's fault! Right. Just thought I'd check. :doh:

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                              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                So I just re-installed my PC. Completely. I formatted all disk drives and created a clean partition. So when all is good and done I download Chrome, login to my Google account and check out CodeProject. I login and, what do you know, Google remembered my password... I always thought passwords were stored on the local computer (you know, security and safety and such). To make passwords roaming wouldn't they need to be stored on a server somewhere, unencrypted? Apparently Google just knows all my passwords. Even after a clean install. I can check them out right there in my settings. All of them. So if I can just request all my passwords from anywhere wouldn't everyone be able to request my passwords from anywhere... Given they have my credentials?

                                It's an OO world.

                                public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                                {
                                public void DoWork()
                                {
                                throw new NotSupportedException();
                                }
                                }

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                                Denis A Stoyanov
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                                All your info such as bookmarks, passwords and etc. is saved in your account. When you log in with chrome (either gMail or just in the browser) it automatically download all stuff and sync it.

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                                  Quote:

                                  Given they have my credentials?

                                  So nobody gonna comment on this? All Google's fault! Right. Just thought I'd check. :doh:

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                                  Sander Rossel
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                                  There's a huge difference between someone having 'just' my Google credentials (maybe Google gets hacked, I become the victim of a key logger, or someone gets lucky using brute force attacks, etc.) and someone having access to ALL my credentials by having 'just' my Google credentials.

                                  It's an OO world.

                                  public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                                  {
                                  public void DoWork()
                                  {
                                  throw new NotSupportedException();
                                  }
                                  }

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                                  • D Denis A Stoyanov

                                    All your info such as bookmarks, passwords and etc. is saved in your account. When you log in with chrome (either gMail or just in the browser) it automatically download all stuff and sync it.

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                                    Sander Rossel
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                                    #17

                                    The question is will they stop saving my passwords on their servers if I choose not to sync them?

                                    It's an OO world.

                                    public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                                    {
                                    public void DoWork()
                                    {
                                    throw new NotSupportedException();
                                    }
                                    }

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                                    • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                                      Chrome initial setup does an auto-sync with your Gmail account. This should have done the trick for you behind the scenes.

                                      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage You can not step into the same river twice.

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                                      Sander Rossel
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                                      #18

                                      Yeah, will Google stop storing my passwords on their servers if I turn syncing off though?

                                      It's an OO world.

                                      public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                                      {
                                      public void DoWork()
                                      {
                                      throw new NotSupportedException();
                                      }
                                      }

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                                      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                        The question is will they stop saving my passwords on their servers if I choose not to sync them?

                                        It's an OO world.

                                        public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                                        {
                                        public void DoWork()
                                        {
                                        throw new NotSupportedException();
                                        }
                                        }

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                                        Denis A Stoyanov
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                                        I think that was not an option. If you use Chrome and save password with it, it will be automatically saved(sync) on the Google server. That's why if you are saving passwords, better use another browser. Although there is an option to "stop and clear" in the google dashboard - https://www.google.com/settings/chrome/sync[^]

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                                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                          So I just re-installed my PC. Completely. I formatted all disk drives and created a clean partition. So when all is good and done I download Chrome, login to my Google account and check out CodeProject. I login and, what do you know, Google remembered my password... I always thought passwords were stored on the local computer (you know, security and safety and such). To make passwords roaming wouldn't they need to be stored on a server somewhere, unencrypted? Apparently Google just knows all my passwords. Even after a clean install. I can check them out right there in my settings. All of them. So if I can just request all my passwords from anywhere wouldn't everyone be able to request my passwords from anywhere... Given they have my credentials?

                                          It's an OO world.

                                          public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                                          {
                                          public void DoWork()
                                          {
                                          throw new NotSupportedException();
                                          }
                                          }

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                                          DaveAuld
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                                          #20

                                          You can tweak what chrome syncs in the advanced sync settings; chrome://settings/syncSetup

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