Difference Between Apple CEOs
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I read in an article that Steve Jobs was the War Time CEO of Apple, Tim Cook is the Peace Time CEO of Apple
So Steve is John Hurt and Tim is David Tennant?
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I read in an article that Steve Jobs was the War Time CEO of Apple, Tim Cook is the Peace Time CEO of Apple
You should read A First-rate Madness[^] In part it explores the thesis that those with mental illness (specifically depression) see the world far more realistically than those without, and hence make clearer, better (and sometimes harsher) decisions that those that have on the more usual rose-coloured glasses. I'm not suggesting Jobs suffered from depression, but it is certainly interested reading about how different times call for different leaders.
cheers Chris Maunder
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So Steve is John Hurt and Tim is David Tennant?
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I read in an article that Steve Jobs was the War Time CEO of Apple, Tim Cook is the Peace Time CEO of Apple
Yes absolutely true.
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You should read A First-rate Madness[^] In part it explores the thesis that those with mental illness (specifically depression) see the world far more realistically than those without, and hence make clearer, better (and sometimes harsher) decisions that those that have on the more usual rose-coloured glasses. I'm not suggesting Jobs suffered from depression, but it is certainly interested reading about how different times call for different leaders.
cheers Chris Maunder
Actually, some people suspect Steve had bipolar II disorder. Anyway, I'm not suggesting Jobs suffered from depression, has a very different ring to it than you might have intended it to have. This feels like "covert" stigmatization, which is just as bad as overt. Maybe you didn't plan for it, but think about it, attaching a sense of negativity to the fact that someone has depression is stigmatization. As someone with first-hand experience, reading something like that isn't cool. I'm not a militant "you hurt my feelings" kind of guy, just wanted to kindly point that out.
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You should read A First-rate Madness[^] In part it explores the thesis that those with mental illness (specifically depression) see the world far more realistically than those without, and hence make clearer, better (and sometimes harsher) decisions that those that have on the more usual rose-coloured glasses. I'm not suggesting Jobs suffered from depression, but it is certainly interested reading about how different times call for different leaders.
cheers Chris Maunder
Btw, didn't know that book, will read!
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Actually, some people suspect Steve had bipolar II disorder. Anyway, I'm not suggesting Jobs suffered from depression, has a very different ring to it than you might have intended it to have. This feels like "covert" stigmatization, which is just as bad as overt. Maybe you didn't plan for it, but think about it, attaching a sense of negativity to the fact that someone has depression is stigmatization. As someone with first-hand experience, reading something like that isn't cool. I'm not a militant "you hurt my feelings" kind of guy, just wanted to kindly point that out.
Sebastian Porstendorfer wrote:
As someone with first-hand experience, reading something like that isn't cool
You're not the only one with first hand, up-close-and-personal experience.
Sebastian Porstendorfer wrote:
This feels like "covert" stigmatization
That's your call. How about you take it as it was meant to be taken: "I'm not a doctor, I never knew Steve, and I dislike verdicts by media. Whatever Jobs was, he was. I am simply stating clearly that I have no interest in labeling him as anything, good, bad or normal."
cheers Chris Maunder
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Sebastian Porstendorfer wrote:
As someone with first-hand experience, reading something like that isn't cool
You're not the only one with first hand, up-close-and-personal experience.
Sebastian Porstendorfer wrote:
This feels like "covert" stigmatization
That's your call. How about you take it as it was meant to be taken: "I'm not a doctor, I never knew Steve, and I dislike verdicts by media. Whatever Jobs was, he was. I am simply stating clearly that I have no interest in labeling him as anything, good, bad or normal."
cheers Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote:
Sebastian Porstendorfer wrote:
As someone with first-hand experience, reading something like that isn't cool
You're not the only one with first hand, up-close-and-personal experience.
Never said I was. 20% of the world population share this experience with me, and anybody else unlucky enough to meet the black dog. I take it from your comment you have been in contact with depression in one form or another, and I'm sorry for that, I would not wish that on anyone.
Chris Maunder wrote:
Sebastian Porstendorfer wrote:
This feels like "covert" stigmatization
That's your call. How about you take it as it was meant to be taken: "I'm not a doctor, I never knew Steve, and I dislike verdicts by media. Whatever Jobs was, he was. I am simply stating clearly that I have no interest in labeling him as anything, good, bad or normal."
Sure is. As I said earlier, and I think I made that pretty clear, it's not about me or hurt feelings on my side or whatever, all I wanted to do was point out that this specific form of relativation of one's own words is not without perils of its own. Subtly. Veeeeery subtly ;) Please forgive me if my benevolent intention of simply pointing to this finer nuance of speech as a potential trouble source has been miscommunicated in any way. Btw, ordered the book, looking forward to reading it, especially considering who the author is.
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Chris Maunder wrote:
Sebastian Porstendorfer wrote:
As someone with first-hand experience, reading something like that isn't cool
You're not the only one with first hand, up-close-and-personal experience.
Never said I was. 20% of the world population share this experience with me, and anybody else unlucky enough to meet the black dog. I take it from your comment you have been in contact with depression in one form or another, and I'm sorry for that, I would not wish that on anyone.
Chris Maunder wrote:
Sebastian Porstendorfer wrote:
This feels like "covert" stigmatization
That's your call. How about you take it as it was meant to be taken: "I'm not a doctor, I never knew Steve, and I dislike verdicts by media. Whatever Jobs was, he was. I am simply stating clearly that I have no interest in labeling him as anything, good, bad or normal."
Sure is. As I said earlier, and I think I made that pretty clear, it's not about me or hurt feelings on my side or whatever, all I wanted to do was point out that this specific form of relativation of one's own words is not without perils of its own. Subtly. Veeeeery subtly ;) Please forgive me if my benevolent intention of simply pointing to this finer nuance of speech as a potential trouble source has been miscommunicated in any way. Btw, ordered the book, looking forward to reading it, especially considering who the author is.
It's all good, and enjoy the book (though I do feel it suffered a little from cherry-picking the examples).
cheers Chris Maunder
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