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  • C Chris Maunder

    I'm organising some documents and I've realised I have a new pet peeve: putting "Final" in a document name to indicate that it's the final version. In itself this isn't awful. What's awful is: document.docx document - final.docx document - final - DG-comments.docx document - FINAL.docx So which one's the final one? This is why documents need source control... [Edit: Just found:" Copy of Copy of document FINAL.docx". We have a winner!]

    cheers Chris Maunder

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    Lost User
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    Almost as bad as putting "new" to indicate that this is a new version.

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      Almost as bad as putting "new" to indicate that this is a new version.

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      We have live servers with new at the front of the name. I hate to think what we'll have if they need replacing again.

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      • D Duncan Edwards Jones

        Also - anyone emailing around a doc to multiple people for their updates - thus we have 20 new branches of "Business Plan (Draft) v1.2.docx" to merge back together...

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        No version control problems - give them a Wiki. Let them fight it out amongst themselves.

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        • C Chris Maunder

          I'm organising some documents and I've realised I have a new pet peeve: putting "Final" in a document name to indicate that it's the final version. In itself this isn't awful. What's awful is: document.docx document - final.docx document - final - DG-comments.docx document - FINAL.docx So which one's the final one? This is why documents need source control... [Edit: Just found:" Copy of Copy of document FINAL.docx". We have a winner!]

          cheers Chris Maunder

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          Reminds me off all those Cher FINAL TOUR! tours.

          It was broke, so I fixed it.

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          • C Chris Maunder

            I'm organising some documents and I've realised I have a new pet peeve: putting "Final" in a document name to indicate that it's the final version. In itself this isn't awful. What's awful is: document.docx document - final.docx document - final - DG-comments.docx document - FINAL.docx So which one's the final one? This is why documents need source control... [Edit: Just found:" Copy of Copy of document FINAL.docx". We have a winner!]

            cheers Chris Maunder

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            Kschuler
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            The one with the most recent maintenance date.

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            • C Chris Maunder

              I'm organising some documents and I've realised I have a new pet peeve: putting "Final" in a document name to indicate that it's the final version. In itself this isn't awful. What's awful is: document.docx document - final.docx document - final - DG-comments.docx document - FINAL.docx So which one's the final one? This is why documents need source control... [Edit: Just found:" Copy of Copy of document FINAL.docx". We have a winner!]

              cheers Chris Maunder

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              CPallini
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              Same here, with 'latest'.

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              • C Chris Maunder

                I'm organising some documents and I've realised I have a new pet peeve: putting "Final" in a document name to indicate that it's the final version. In itself this isn't awful. What's awful is: document.docx document - final.docx document - final - DG-comments.docx document - FINAL.docx So which one's the final one? This is why documents need source control... [Edit: Just found:" Copy of Copy of document FINAL.docx". We have a winner!]

                cheers Chris Maunder

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                Nish Nishant
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                The one with the most recent last modified date?

                Regards, Nish


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                • C Chris Maunder

                  I'm organising some documents and I've realised I have a new pet peeve: putting "Final" in a document name to indicate that it's the final version. In itself this isn't awful. What's awful is: document.docx document - final.docx document - final - DG-comments.docx document - FINAL.docx So which one's the final one? This is why documents need source control... [Edit: Just found:" Copy of Copy of document FINAL.docx". We have a winner!]

                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                  If more than one person will be working on the document simultaneously then source control (like SVN) is the best option. For documents you are working on that others are not contributing to try the following naming convention. It works for me. document20140103.docx document20140131.docx document20140206.docx document20140223.docx document20140316.docx You will always know the latest and greatest version of the document. Well at least the latest version. :cool:

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                    The one with the most recent last modified date?

                    Regards, Nish


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                    Chris Maunder
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                    You'd think. Except it isn't. You've had merge conflicts before, right? Same deal.

                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      I'm organising some documents and I've realised I have a new pet peeve: putting "Final" in a document name to indicate that it's the final version. In itself this isn't awful. What's awful is: document.docx document - final.docx document - final - DG-comments.docx document - FINAL.docx So which one's the final one? This is why documents need source control... [Edit: Just found:" Copy of Copy of document FINAL.docx". We have a winner!]

                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                      Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                      Recently while sitting in at the end of a share point configuration provided by a vendor I noticed several copies of an SSRS report in the share. I asked what didn't you enable versioning? The attendees on my side looked perplexed and the "consultant" said, "Yes, I suppose we could have done that. You just can't win!

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        You'd think. Except it isn't. You've had merge conflicts before, right? Same deal.

                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                        Nish Nishant
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                        Yeah, that sucks then :-)

                        Regards, Nish


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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          I'm organising some documents and I've realised I have a new pet peeve: putting "Final" in a document name to indicate that it's the final version. In itself this isn't awful. What's awful is: document.docx document - final.docx document - final - DG-comments.docx document - FINAL.docx So which one's the final one? This is why documents need source control... [Edit: Just found:" Copy of Copy of document FINAL.docx". We have a winner!]

                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                          Jeremy Falcon
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                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                          This is why documents need source control...

                          You ever try a combo of your code repo and the built-in revisioning tools in Word? Da Link[^]

                          Jeremy Falcon

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                          • C Chris Maunder

                            I'm organising some documents and I've realised I have a new pet peeve: putting "Final" in a document name to indicate that it's the final version. In itself this isn't awful. What's awful is: document.docx document - final.docx document - final - DG-comments.docx document - FINAL.docx So which one's the final one? This is why documents need source control... [Edit: Just found:" Copy of Copy of document FINAL.docx". We have a winner!]

                            cheers Chris Maunder

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                            Release your inner demon. ..take a copy of "document - final - DG-comments.docx", copy it once in the directory it's already in, and add the remark "probably the current latest version".

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                            • C Chris Maunder

                              I'm organising some documents and I've realised I have a new pet peeve: putting "Final" in a document name to indicate that it's the final version. In itself this isn't awful. What's awful is: document.docx document - final.docx document - final - DG-comments.docx document - FINAL.docx So which one's the final one? This is why documents need source control... [Edit: Just found:" Copy of Copy of document FINAL.docx". We have a winner!]

                              cheers Chris Maunder

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                              Ravi Bhavnani
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                              My solution to this common problem is to rename older versions of the document, e.g:

                              • Document.docx The latest version of the document.
                              • Document - 01.docx First edit.
                              • Document - 02 - Updates per Joe Updates made in response to Joe's review.
                              • Document - Draft An unsequenced draft version of the document.

                              Chris Maunder wrote:

                              This is why documents need source control...

                              Of course they do!  As does any edited collateral.  Aside: File versioning came standard with my first OS (VAX/VMS, circa 1980). :) /ravi

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                                At my current work place, we have databases named like below on the same instance of SQL Server 1. Database1 2. Database1 New 3. Database1 Current 4. Database1 Recent 5. Database1 Latest 6. Database1 Real For some reason, no one wants to delete any of them.

                                "Coming soon"

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                                I make them put their initial after the database version, then I know who the owner is. I'm also in the habit of taking DB off line on the dev and UAT servers, if no one screams in a month I can delete them.

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                                • C Chris Maunder

                                  I'm organising some documents and I've realised I have a new pet peeve: putting "Final" in a document name to indicate that it's the final version. In itself this isn't awful. What's awful is: document.docx document - final.docx document - final - DG-comments.docx document - FINAL.docx So which one's the final one? This is why documents need source control... [Edit: Just found:" Copy of Copy of document FINAL.docx". We have a winner!]

                                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                                  Roger Wright
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                                  That's why we have date stamps, Chris! ;P

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                                  • C Chris Maunder

                                    I'm organising some documents and I've realised I have a new pet peeve: putting "Final" in a document name to indicate that it's the final version. In itself this isn't awful. What's awful is: document.docx document - final.docx document - final - DG-comments.docx document - FINAL.docx So which one's the final one? This is why documents need source control... [Edit: Just found:" Copy of Copy of document FINAL.docx". We have a winner!]

                                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                                    R Erasmus
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                                    Suggestion: Don't put the word final in the name, put it in the doc itself. That is how we do it in any case... Why you may wonder... You'll have too many docs to maintain/store which becomes ugly. (As you have seen with the names issue) I the case of using a versioning tool you end up with multiple (and in actual fact this can extend to 100s) of different documents which should only be one document with different revisions... One being internally marked as draft, the next revision being internally marked as final. The draft would usually go through review, update and verify process. The final will never contain comments. THUS: One doc with same name and mechanism to indicate state of document internally, managed through source/revision control system or something similar.

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                                    • C Chris Maunder

                                      I'm organising some documents and I've realised I have a new pet peeve: putting "Final" in a document name to indicate that it's the final version. In itself this isn't awful. What's awful is: document.docx document - final.docx document - final - DG-comments.docx document - FINAL.docx So which one's the final one? This is why documents need source control... [Edit: Just found:" Copy of Copy of document FINAL.docx". We have a winner!]

                                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                                      Kiriander
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                                      Sort by write date, theone with the last date is the last one. Problem solved.

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                                      • C Chris Maunder

                                        I'm organising some documents and I've realised I have a new pet peeve: putting "Final" in a document name to indicate that it's the final version. In itself this isn't awful. What's awful is: document.docx document - final.docx document - final - DG-comments.docx document - FINAL.docx So which one's the final one? This is why documents need source control... [Edit: Just found:" Copy of Copy of document FINAL.docx". We have a winner!]

                                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                                        Member 4724084
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                                        At the risk of starting a war, why not just check the last modified file property? Free versioning that comes with every platform.

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                                        • C Chris Maunder

                                          I'm organising some documents and I've realised I have a new pet peeve: putting "Final" in a document name to indicate that it's the final version. In itself this isn't awful. What's awful is: document.docx document - final.docx document - final - DG-comments.docx document - FINAL.docx So which one's the final one? This is why documents need source control... [Edit: Just found:" Copy of Copy of document FINAL.docx". We have a winner!]

                                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                                          Final is a myth! Dracula proved this with the Lochness monster's resources when Bigfoot's cousin came to oversee the project after Santa Clause's wife gave him the spring off to visit the Sandman on his holiday to the tooth fairies' palace on the other side of wonderland, knowing the boogey man will try and intervene in proving Final as the truth just before the Easter bunny can use a Leprechaun's wand. :suss:

                                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                                          This is why documents need source control...

                                          I give you version control document.docx documentV1.docx documentV2 - DG-comments.docx documentV3.docx :-\ then at least one knows of the laziness if "Copy of Copy of documentV7.docx" is found :doh:

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