My new pet peeve - final

[Jeremy Falcon]

Chris Maunder wrote:

This is why documents need source control...

You ever try a combo of your code repo and the built-in revisioning tools in Word? Da Link[^]

Jeremy Falcon

[Lost User]

Release your inner demon. ..take a copy of "document - final - DG-comments.docx", copy it once in the directory it's already in, and add the remark "probably the current latest version".

Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

[Ravi Bhavnani]

My solution to this common problem is to rename older versions of the document, e.g:

• Document.docx The latest version of the document.
• Document - 01.docx First edit.
• Document - 02 - Updates per Joe Updates made in response to Joe's review.
• Document - Draft An unsequenced draft version of the document.

Chris Maunder wrote:

This is why documents need source control...

Of course they do!  As does any edited collateral.  Aside: File versioning came standard with my first OS (VAX/VMS, circa 1980). :) /ravi

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[Mycroft Holmes]

I make them put their initial after the database version, then I know who the owner is. I'm also in the habit of taking DB off line on the dev and UAT servers, if no one screams in a month I can delete them.

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[Roger Wright]

That's why we have date stamps, Chris! ;P

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[R Erasmus]

Suggestion: Don't put the word final in the name, put it in the doc itself. That is how we do it in any case... Why you may wonder... You'll have too many docs to maintain/store which becomes ugly. (As you have seen with the names issue) I the case of using a versioning tool you end up with multiple (and in actual fact this can extend to 100s) of different documents which should only be one document with different revisions... One being internally marked as draft, the next revision being internally marked as final. The draft would usually go through review, update and verify process. The final will never contain comments. THUS: One doc with same name and mechanism to indicate state of document internally, managed through source/revision control system or something similar.

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[Kiriander]

Sort by write date, theone with the last date is the last one. Problem solved.

[Member 4724084]

At the risk of starting a war, why not just check the last modified file property? Free versioning that comes with every platform.

[CBadger]

Final is a myth! Dracula proved this with the Lochness monster's resources when Bigfoot's cousin came to oversee the project after Santa Clause's wife gave him the spring off to visit the Sandman on his holiday to the tooth fairies' palace on the other side of wonderland, knowing the boogey man will try and intervene in proving Final as the truth just before the Easter bunny can use a Leprechaun's wand. :suss:

Chris Maunder wrote:

This is why documents need source control...

I give you version control document.docx documentV1.docx documentV2 - DG-comments.docx documentV3.docx :-\ then at least one knows of the laziness if "Copy of Copy of documentV7.docx" is found :doh:

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[CBadger]

And if it becomes even more intense one can add the HHmmss :rolleyes: document20140103_085219.docx document20140103_090659.docx document20140103_102534.docx document20140103_102601.docx document20140103_103754.docx document20140103_115910.docx document20140103_142101.docx

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[Nagy Vilmos]

... and this, dear reader, is what document control is for.

[Gary Wheeler]

Chris Maunder wrote:

This is why documents need source control

Been there, done that, got the revision history to prove it. My sub-peeve to your pet-peeve: People who include the revision number in the document filename. I have one document in source control "MSEM_Interface_121.docx", "MSEM_Interface_122.docx", ..., "MSEM_Interface_137.docx" :doh:.

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[Gary Wheeler]

Do you really want to let a marketing schmuck edit a wiki?

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[Gary Wheeler]

Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

Aside: File versioning came standard with my first OS (VAX/VMS, circa 1980)

PURGE *.* /KEEP=3

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[Bassam Abdul Baki]

So use a version number before Final in the name to imply it's baselined. Then increment the version number before finalizing and always remove Final while it's a work in progress. document_1.0.doc document_1.1.doc document_2.0_Final.doc document_2.1.doc document_2.2.doc document_2.3.doc document_3.0_Final.doc

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[loctrice]

We have that here as well. The one that gets me is calling something (everything) "Master".

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[Ravi Bhavnani]

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[Gary Wheeler]

Your attempt to put me into a state of maudlin sentimentality has succeeded, Ravi. Well played :-D. My last experience with a VAX was on a MicroVAX-II back in the late 80's. I worked for a defense contractor at the time. We developed simulations in FORTRAN and Ada. I also used the machine when I was taking graduate artificial intelligence classes. I *cough* borrowed *cough* a friend's C compiler and ported XLISP[^] from the IBM PC to the VAX.

Software Zen: delete this;

[Ravi Bhavnani]

Looks like we've walked similar paths. :) I met my first VAX in 1980 at school, and later in 1987 when I joined DEC's AI group.  There we used a bit of VAX Lisp, but mostly DEC OPS5 to build XCON[^]. /ravi

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[Gary Wheeler]

Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

There we used a bit of VAX Lisp, but mostly DEC OPS5 to build XCON

We talked about XCON in my AI classes. The opinion was that is was one of the first (if not the first) genuinely useful commercial AI applications. I seem to remember the professor saying there was a sign at DEC that said "Last year I couldn't even spell 'knowledge engineer', and now I R1." :cool:

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