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I guess they do that now instead of asking for 3 references?
As I grow older I've found that pleasing everyone is impossible but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake.
3 references, 2 two no problem, I just have a problem do I trust the other??? :)
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If I'm applying for a Techie job, do I really need to be on twitter (?), stick my Farcebook page on my CV and generally be visible ? I was under the impression employers wouldn't be impressed by some of this, is it to make the Arts graduates/Business studies refugees feel like they are on the hot edge of technology? :~
IMHO, CP, SO, MSDN or any other relevant profile, yes. Twitter and FB only if you are running your own company and had a dedicated company account there. I do not have any links anywhere on my CV. However, I do have a LinkedIn profile with links to CP and SO in it. I do not use Twitter and FB (anymore). When I did, I thought that content has nothing to do with my job.
My CP workspace: Incredibly trivial and probably useless code samples[^]
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If I'm applying for a Techie job, do I really need to be on twitter (?), stick my Farcebook page on my CV and generally be visible ? I was under the impression employers wouldn't be impressed by some of this, is it to make the Arts graduates/Business studies refugees feel like they are on the hot edge of technology? :~
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glennPattonPUB wrote:
If I'm applying for a Techie job, do I really need to be on [...]
If that's now become a requirement, I've missed the memo. I wouldn't even want to work for anyone who sincerely believes it's necessary either.
I'm with you there!
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If I'm applying for a Techie job, do I really need to be on twitter (?), stick my Farcebook page on my CV and generally be visible ? I was under the impression employers wouldn't be impressed by some of this, is it to make the Arts graduates/Business studies refugees feel like they are on the hot edge of technology? :~
No. But it has been ten years since I got a job by directly applying to the employer.
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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No. But it has been ten years since I got a job by directly applying to the employer.
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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No.
Well I am grateful for that. I think it's all part of 'sell yourself' culture.
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Well I am grateful for that. I think it's all part of 'sell yourself' culture.
glennPattonPUB wrote:
'sell yourself short'
FTFY
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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If I'm applying for a Techie job, do I really need to be on twitter (?), stick my Farcebook page on my CV and generally be visible ? I was under the impression employers wouldn't be impressed by some of this, is it to make the Arts graduates/Business studies refugees feel like they are on the hot edge of technology? :~
I once read that NOT being visible could hurt your chances. Employers will try to find you. If they can't you must have something to hide (like you're an evicted criminal). That said I don't have FaceBook, LinkedIn, Twitter, Instagram, What-have-you... Googling my name will probably come up with my CP account, some articles I wrote for VBCentral.nl, my master thesis from the Erasmus University and if I'm lucky the book Expert C# 5.0 turns up because I'm in the acknowledgements. I do have more accounts, like Last.fm, but you'll need to know my internet moniker to find those (also not that hard to find I guess, I've been using it on CP as well). But I've got nothing to hide :D
It's an OO world.
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If I'm applying for a Techie job, do I really need to be on twitter (?), stick my Farcebook page on my CV and generally be visible ? I was under the impression employers wouldn't be impressed by some of this, is it to make the Arts graduates/Business studies refugees feel like they are on the hot edge of technology? :~
I would strongly recommend LinkedIn, it is a professional social media site dedicated to jobs. In this day and age LinkedIn is extremely valuable for software engineers (or any IT field really), and it's an excellent advertisement tool (employers and recruitment agencies troll through LinkedIn frequently). Facebook, Twitter etc. is stupid. Facebook should be your own private profile for family and friends and theres no value in giving this to an employer other than allowing them to snoop through your page to find bad things about you. Maybe Twitter is useful to a company focused on advertising itself, but most jobs I've been in and seen would never like to know that you have the opportunity to accidently share company info etc. The only other sites you could use is www.about.me which is quite useful as a front advert for yourself, or make your own website to display your portfolio (or don't if you don't have one). Protip: You should have your CV on Skydrive. You can then share your CV with a single weblink, which will open up Office Word online to view. It's shocking how many times I've had to send a CV in the email and suddenly a recruitment agent couldn't open it or some bollocks.
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I would strongly recommend LinkedIn, it is a professional social media site dedicated to jobs. In this day and age LinkedIn is extremely valuable for software engineers (or any IT field really), and it's an excellent advertisement tool (employers and recruitment agencies troll through LinkedIn frequently). Facebook, Twitter etc. is stupid. Facebook should be your own private profile for family and friends and theres no value in giving this to an employer other than allowing them to snoop through your page to find bad things about you. Maybe Twitter is useful to a company focused on advertising itself, but most jobs I've been in and seen would never like to know that you have the opportunity to accidently share company info etc. The only other sites you could use is www.about.me which is quite useful as a front advert for yourself, or make your own website to display your portfolio (or don't if you don't have one). Protip: You should have your CV on Skydrive. You can then share your CV with a single weblink, which will open up Office Word online to view. It's shocking how many times I've had to send a CV in the email and suddenly a recruitment agent couldn't open it or some bollocks.
I think the end result of this was not to put Farcebook on there (not that it get used by me!). I hadn't thought of the Skydrive CV, I have mine on Dropbox and tend to include it as an attachment. I did at one stage PDF it but found the 'geniuses' couldn't handle that... :wtf: I am including my Linked In page, I just don't see the point of giving out all your personal info (pictures of you drunk at weddings, friends curries etc.) as relevant...
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If I'm applying for a Techie job, do I really need to be on twitter (?), stick my Farcebook page on my CV and generally be visible ? I was under the impression employers wouldn't be impressed by some of this, is it to make the Arts graduates/Business studies refugees feel like they are on the hot edge of technology? :~
Probably a case of: monkey see; monkey do (do). (I used to just repeat what my teachers said; even if I disagreed; in order to get a good mark). If your prospective employer is into FB; then farce away. If they're twits, etc. If they like to collect links like fleas on a dog; then "link" away. i.e. It's how you best you can fit into their "culture" (gag). Also, be wary of their "we are a YOUNG company" phrase... "I would not join any organization that would have me as a member". Or anyone that lists .NET AND Java (or SQL Server AND MySQL; etc.) as a requirement.
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Probably a case of: monkey see; monkey do (do). (I used to just repeat what my teachers said; even if I disagreed; in order to get a good mark). If your prospective employer is into FB; then farce away. If they're twits, etc. If they like to collect links like fleas on a dog; then "link" away. i.e. It's how you best you can fit into their "culture" (gag). Also, be wary of their "we are a YOUNG company" phrase... "I would not join any organization that would have me as a member". Or anyone that lists .NET AND Java (or SQL Server AND MySQL; etc.) as a requirement.
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i.e. It's how you best you can fit into their "culture" (gag).
read as they still play D&D at lunch times
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Also, be wary of their "we are a YOUNG company" phrase...
Hmm like "it's a young company", read as will run out of money very shortly.
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Or anyone that lists .NET AND Java (or SQL Server AND MySQL; etc.) as a requirement.
I tend to read that as buzz words. .NET & Java two different methods to pretty much the same end? The best one is trying to persuade the agent on the phone you are correct and they are incorrect "The using XY device", "Hmm well XY you mean X or Y as the are two different devices", "Are you sure", "yup!"
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i.e. It's how you best you can fit into their "culture" (gag).
read as they still play D&D at lunch times
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Also, be wary of their "we are a YOUNG company" phrase...
Hmm like "it's a young company", read as will run out of money very shortly.
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Or anyone that lists .NET AND Java (or SQL Server AND MySQL; etc.) as a requirement.
I tend to read that as buzz words. .NET & Java two different methods to pretty much the same end? The best one is trying to persuade the agent on the phone you are correct and they are incorrect "The using XY device", "Hmm well XY you mean X or Y as the are two different devices", "Are you sure", "yup!"
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Nutz that's me out then! :|
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If I'm applying for a Techie job, do I really need to be on twitter (?), stick my Farcebook page on my CV and generally be visible ? I was under the impression employers wouldn't be impressed by some of this, is it to make the Arts graduates/Business studies refugees feel like they are on the hot edge of technology? :~
I would put Twitter only if I tweeted about technology, i'll never put Facebook, I have nothing to hide, but I don't want them snooping around there.
CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...
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In the US (and perhaps other countries), companies have been asking prospective employees for their social media profiles as part of a standard background check. Some companies are curious if you have a technical blog or contribute to open source projects, as this weighs in your favor. /ravi
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They can ask all they want -- they're not going to get my FB credentials from me. If they have a private dick hack into my FB, they'll see that it's quite benign (I got my wild days behind me before FB was even a gleam in Zuck's eye). The point is, I would never work for a company that wants to see my FB page. Fortunately, I have only ever been interviewed at companies with reasonable boundaries.
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They can ask all they want -- they're not going to get my FB credentials from me. If they have a private dick hack into my FB, they'll see that it's quite benign (I got my wild days behind me before FB was even a gleam in Zuck's eye). The point is, I would never work for a company that wants to see my FB page. Fortunately, I have only ever been interviewed at companies with reasonable boundaries.
They don't ask for your credentials, just your handle. /ravi
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