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  • D Dave Kreskowiak

    Colborne_Greg wrote:

    XP and Windows 7 are copies of Windows 95 and 98 with added features.

    Now I KNOW you're smoking something funky! Windows 7 is based on Windows 98?!?! Are you f'ing kidding me?? Windows 7 is an overhauled and fixed version of Vista, REMOVING a bunch of the dependency on the .NET Framework because of performance problems.

    Colborne_Greg wrote:

    and yet officially Windows 9 has not been declared by Microsoft.

    NOBODY "officially" called it Windows 9. That's just what everyone defacto called it. AGAIN, you're not listening, you're preaching.

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    Windows 7 has the dot net framework installed on top of it, which is Windows XP which is Windows ME and Windows 2000, which was Windows 98 and Windows NT. Metro is the only operating system to be the dot net operating system. Longhorn and Vista have the dot net framework intergraded into the shell

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    • D Dave Kreskowiak

      To incorporate change into your business model? Yep, it isn't hard at all. To sit there and whine that Microsoft changed something? That's easy to.

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      Yes that is what people do when they talk about windows 9. Instead of talking about reality. I've invested 3 years into building long term solutions with Microsoft products and have contracts with Microsoft to provide the market for said programs. If they do not hold up on their contract - I don't have to fucking change.

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      • D Dave Kreskowiak

        Colborne_Greg wrote:

        Nedella refers to Threshold as the next major version of windows and does not refer to it as windows 9

        So what? How long has that been going on? Up until that time, which has been a week I think, everyone refered to the next version of Windows as Windows 9.

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        That is my point, and no one in Microsoft has yet to refer to it as windows 9.

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        • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

          BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

          If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
          You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
          Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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          Live long and prosper

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            Live long and prosper

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            Eat shit and die!

            If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
            You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
            Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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            • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

              Eat shit and die!

              If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
              You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
              Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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              Colborne_Greg
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              Well I have eaten Arab food and everyone does.

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                Well I have eaten Arab food and everyone does.

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                Now, that was funny.

                If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                • D Dave Kreskowiak

                  Colborne_Greg wrote:

                  XP and Windows 7 are copies of Windows 95 and 98 with added features.

                  Now I KNOW you're smoking something funky! Windows 7 is based on Windows 98?!?! Are you f'ing kidding me?? Windows 7 is an overhauled and fixed version of Vista, REMOVING a bunch of the dependency on the .NET Framework because of performance problems.

                  Colborne_Greg wrote:

                  and yet officially Windows 9 has not been declared by Microsoft.

                  NOBODY "officially" called it Windows 9. That's just what everyone defacto called it. AGAIN, you're not listening, you're preaching.

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                  Just stop now, you're playing with an idiot, probably a 15-year-old still wearing diapers.

                  If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                  You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                  Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                  • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                    :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :~ X|

                    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                    You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                    ^.^ \_/

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                    • B Bert Mitton

                      I'm not sure I would call 8.1 a major update. I would think it would be better classified as an SP, along the lines of XP SP2.

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                      A major release is any version that can be purchased directly at a store. Service packs never changed the structure of windows.

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                      • D Dave Calkins

                        I looked again at your original post to see what I was missing. I think I got it now. You're referring to the underlying version numbers used by Windows right? i.e. the below link? MSDN Operating System Version The version numbers there are obviously a completely different thing than the product naming used. Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 9, etc. There's no reason 6.4 couldn't be called Windows 9. So are you just nit-picking about the difference between the internal version numbers and the product names?

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                        No I was not referring to that numbering system in my original post.

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                          Windows 7 has the dot net framework installed on top of it, which is Windows XP which is Windows ME and Windows 2000, which was Windows 98 and Windows NT. Metro is the only operating system to be the dot net operating system. Longhorn and Vista have the dot net framework intergraded into the shell

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                          Colborne_Greg wrote:

                          Windows 7 has the dot net framework installed on top of it

                          WOW! How wrong are you? You don't even know what the .NET Framework IS!!

                          Colborne_Greg wrote:

                          which is Windows XP

                          Which has nothing to do with the .NET Framework!

                          Colborne_Greg wrote:

                          which is Windows ME and Windows 2000, which was Windows 98 and Windows NT.

                          Which is utterly irrelevent.

                          Colborne_Greg wrote:

                          Metro is the only operating system to be the dot net operating system.

                          There is no .NET "operating system". There are parts of Windows that are written using the .NET Framework, but the .NET Framework is itself NOT an operating system, nor part of one.

                          Colborne_Greg wrote:

                          Longhorn and Vista have the dot net framework intergraded into the shell

                          No, they have parts of the Shell written using the .NET Framework. I'm done with you. You obviously have no clue what you're talking about nor do you want to hear that you're wrong about certain things. Also, you don't even know how to listen to people who are trying to have a converstation with you. All you know how to do is tell everyone "YOU'RE WRONG! IT'S MY WAY".

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                          • C Colborne_Greg

                            Yes that is what people do when they talk about windows 9. Instead of talking about reality. I've invested 3 years into building long term solutions with Microsoft products and have contracts with Microsoft to provide the market for said programs. If they do not hold up on their contract - I don't have to fucking change.

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                            ...and this is why 2 out of every 3 businesses fail...

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                            • D Dave Kreskowiak

                              Colborne_Greg wrote:

                              Windows 7 has the dot net framework installed on top of it

                              WOW! How wrong are you? You don't even know what the .NET Framework IS!!

                              Colborne_Greg wrote:

                              which is Windows XP

                              Which has nothing to do with the .NET Framework!

                              Colborne_Greg wrote:

                              which is Windows ME and Windows 2000, which was Windows 98 and Windows NT.

                              Which is utterly irrelevent.

                              Colborne_Greg wrote:

                              Metro is the only operating system to be the dot net operating system.

                              There is no .NET "operating system". There are parts of Windows that are written using the .NET Framework, but the .NET Framework is itself NOT an operating system, nor part of one.

                              Colborne_Greg wrote:

                              Longhorn and Vista have the dot net framework intergraded into the shell

                              No, they have parts of the Shell written using the .NET Framework. I'm done with you. You obviously have no clue what you're talking about nor do you want to hear that you're wrong about certain things. Also, you don't even know how to listen to people who are trying to have a converstation with you. All you know how to do is tell everyone "YOU'RE WRONG! IT'S MY WAY".

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                              Windows RT is the dot net framework as an operating system. The reason it was called a framework is because it is a structure on top of the old.

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                              • C Colborne_Greg

                                That is my point, and no one in Microsoft has yet to refer to it as windows 9.

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                                <sigh>... again, NOBODY said Microsoft refered to it as "Windows 9". THE WINDOWS COMMUNITY COINED THE TERM YOU MORON! This is the ONE piece of information you REFUSE to listen to! Good day sir.

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                                • D Dave Kreskowiak

                                  <sigh>... again, NOBODY said Microsoft refered to it as "Windows 9". THE WINDOWS COMMUNITY COINED THE TERM YOU MORON! This is the ONE piece of information you REFUSE to listen to! Good day sir.

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                                  Exactly

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                                  • D Dave Kreskowiak

                                    ...and this is why 2 out of every 3 businesses fail...

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                                    Colbornes is close to 60.

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                                      A major release is any version that can be purchased directly at a store. Service packs never changed the structure of windows.

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                                      XP SP2 had major changes to the OS. I *may* be wrong, I never purchased a copy, but I would imagine that if you purchased a copy in 2005, it would be XP SP2, not just XP with no service packs installed.

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                                        No I was not referring to that numbering system in my original post.

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                                        well, clearly you have some sort of axe to grind - I'm just not sure I understand what that is :)

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                                        • B Bert Mitton

                                          XP SP2 had major changes to the OS. I *may* be wrong, I never purchased a copy, but I would imagine that if you purchased a copy in 2005, it would be XP SP2, not just XP with no service packs installed.

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                                          Service Pack 2 (SP2) was released on August 25, 2004,[57] SP2 added new functionality to Windows XP, such as WPA encryption compatibility and improved Wi-Fi support (with a wizard utility), a pop-up ad blocker for Internet Explorer 6, and partial Bluetooth support. Service Pack 2 also added new security enhancements (codenamed "Springboard"),[58] which included a major revision to the included firewall (renamed Windows Firewall, and now enabled by default), Data Execution Prevention gained hardware support in the NX bit that can stop some forms of buffer overflow attacks. Also raw socket support is removed (which supposedly limits the damage done by zombie machines). Additionally, security-related improvements were made to e-mail and web browsing. Service Pack 2 also added Security Center, an interface which provides a general overview of the system's security status, including the state of the firewall and automatic updates. Third-party firewall and antivirus software can also be monitored from Security Center.[59] Nothing in there is a noticeable change to the user

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