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    R Giskard Reventlov
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    I've been doing this computing lark for quite a long time and still like to get my hands dirty crafting beautifully manicured code. What I don't do, nor do I recall ever having to do, is create a custom sort algorithm. I don't think I could without looking it up; oh, I know what many of them are called and recall, vaguely, the workings but I doubt I could articulate any of them without looking it up first. There are probably many other 'skills' I learnt in the dim and distant past but have now forgotten due to lack of use (like Visual Basic :-)). What did you learn and never get around to using or, in fact, ever need to use?

    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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      I've been doing this computing lark for quite a long time and still like to get my hands dirty crafting beautifully manicured code. What I don't do, nor do I recall ever having to do, is create a custom sort algorithm. I don't think I could without looking it up; oh, I know what many of them are called and recall, vaguely, the workings but I doubt I could articulate any of them without looking it up first. There are probably many other 'skills' I learnt in the dim and distant past but have now forgotten due to lack of use (like Visual Basic :-)). What did you learn and never get around to using or, in fact, ever need to use?

      "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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      WiganLatics
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      Java? :laugh:

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        I've been doing this computing lark for quite a long time and still like to get my hands dirty crafting beautifully manicured code. What I don't do, nor do I recall ever having to do, is create a custom sort algorithm. I don't think I could without looking it up; oh, I know what many of them are called and recall, vaguely, the workings but I doubt I could articulate any of them without looking it up first. There are probably many other 'skills' I learnt in the dim and distant past but have now forgotten due to lack of use (like Visual Basic :-)). What did you learn and never get around to using or, in fact, ever need to use?

        "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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        Duncan Edwards Jones
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        "Z"[^] and I don't think I've knowingly used De Morgan's law[^] this decade. Also - in a non IT context - I've never had to give the hand signals for "I am slowing down" etc. I learnt for my driving test.

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          Java? :laugh:

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          chriselst
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          Me too. Went on a week's course in London three or four years ago and haven't touched it since I got back.

          Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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            I've been doing this computing lark for quite a long time and still like to get my hands dirty crafting beautifully manicured code. What I don't do, nor do I recall ever having to do, is create a custom sort algorithm. I don't think I could without looking it up; oh, I know what many of them are called and recall, vaguely, the workings but I doubt I could articulate any of them without looking it up first. There are probably many other 'skills' I learnt in the dim and distant past but have now forgotten due to lack of use (like Visual Basic :-)). What did you learn and never get around to using or, in fact, ever need to use?

            "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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            due to lack of use (like Visual Basic :) ).

            The lounge rules are keep it Kid Sister Safe. There is no need for language like that:

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            like Visual Basic :)

            :wtf:

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            • R R Giskard Reventlov

              I've been doing this computing lark for quite a long time and still like to get my hands dirty crafting beautifully manicured code. What I don't do, nor do I recall ever having to do, is create a custom sort algorithm. I don't think I could without looking it up; oh, I know what many of them are called and recall, vaguely, the workings but I doubt I could articulate any of them without looking it up first. There are probably many other 'skills' I learnt in the dim and distant past but have now forgotten due to lack of use (like Visual Basic :-)). What did you learn and never get around to using or, in fact, ever need to use?

              "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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              I don't recall.

              You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                "Z"[^] and I don't think I've knowingly used De Morgan's law[^] this decade. Also - in a non IT context - I've never had to give the hand signals for "I am slowing down" etc. I learnt for my driving test.

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                Duncan Edwards Jones wrote:

                I've never had to give the hand signals for "I am slowing down" etc. I learnt for my driving test.

                I've given lots of hand-signals to other drivers, but I don't remember giving that one.

                Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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                • R R Giskard Reventlov

                  I've been doing this computing lark for quite a long time and still like to get my hands dirty crafting beautifully manicured code. What I don't do, nor do I recall ever having to do, is create a custom sort algorithm. I don't think I could without looking it up; oh, I know what many of them are called and recall, vaguely, the workings but I doubt I could articulate any of them without looking it up first. There are probably many other 'skills' I learnt in the dim and distant past but have now forgotten due to lack of use (like Visual Basic :-)). What did you learn and never get around to using or, in fact, ever need to use?

                  "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                  Nish Nishant
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                  Triple Integrals. Remember spending hours learning and practicing those for tests in high school. Once I left high school, I've never ever had to use them.

                  Regards, Nish


                  Check out 7 reasons C++ devs will love the VS 14 CTP by Nish Sivakumar Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                    I've been doing this computing lark for quite a long time and still like to get my hands dirty crafting beautifully manicured code. What I don't do, nor do I recall ever having to do, is create a custom sort algorithm. I don't think I could without looking it up; oh, I know what many of them are called and recall, vaguely, the workings but I doubt I could articulate any of them without looking it up first. There are probably many other 'skills' I learnt in the dim and distant past but have now forgotten due to lack of use (like Visual Basic :-)). What did you learn and never get around to using or, in fact, ever need to use?

                    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                    Like you, sorting is something I haven't written any code for for donkeys years - not since I got started in Assembler and had no libraries. Now I use "prepared" code - which has the advantage that I know it works and if there is a problem it's my fault - I used it wrong! :laugh: I don't think I have used much of what I learned in school past "O" level or less (for non-UKians or the young, I passed my first O level when when I was about 14, but 16 was more normal). Almost nothing past the basics of the "formal learning" at Uni has been used for thirty or more years, but the "mind set" of coding that was started then is still very much in force and wouldn't have been learned at all without the "formal learning" that caused it and hasn't been used since. Visual Basic isn't a skill, it's a disease. :laugh:

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                      "Z"[^] and I don't think I've knowingly used De Morgan's law[^] this decade. Also - in a non IT context - I've never had to give the hand signals for "I am slowing down" etc. I learnt for my driving test.

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                      Duncan Edwards Jones wrote:

                      I don't think I've knowingly used De Morgan's law[^] this decade.

                      Really? I use it all the time... I'd just forgotten what it was called until just now. (!x && !y) == !(x || y) Ahh, memories...

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                        due to lack of use (like Visual Basic :) ).

                        The lounge rules are keep it Kid Sister Safe. There is no need for language like that:

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                        like Visual Basic :)

                        :wtf:

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                        Someone else mentioned Java in this thread. Standards are dropping very fast here! :~

                        Regards, Nish


                        Check out 7 reasons C++ devs will love the VS 14 CTP by Nish Sivakumar Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                          Triple Integrals. Remember spending hours learning and practicing those for tests in high school. Once I left high school, I've never ever had to use them.

                          Regards, Nish


                          Check out 7 reasons C++ devs will love the VS 14 CTP by Nish Sivakumar Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                          Ian Shlasko
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                          :thumbsup: Calculus in general... No need for it. I leave the calculus to the quants (quantitative analysts)...

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                            I don't recall.

                            You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                            PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                            I don't recall.

                            Looks like someone may have a future in politics. ;)

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                              I've been doing this computing lark for quite a long time and still like to get my hands dirty crafting beautifully manicured code. What I don't do, nor do I recall ever having to do, is create a custom sort algorithm. I don't think I could without looking it up; oh, I know what many of them are called and recall, vaguely, the workings but I doubt I could articulate any of them without looking it up first. There are probably many other 'skills' I learnt in the dim and distant past but have now forgotten due to lack of use (like Visual Basic :-)). What did you learn and never get around to using or, in fact, ever need to use?

                              "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                              Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                              We learned a lot of mainframe stuff first year - never ever used it. In fact never saw a mainframe based system since then...

                              I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                                Someone else mentioned Java in this thread. Standards are dropping very fast here! :~

                                Regards, Nish


                                Check out 7 reasons C++ devs will love the VS 14 CTP by Nish Sivakumar Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                tbf we were degrading rather than evangelising though. ;)

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                                  We learned a lot of mainframe stuff first year - never ever used it. In fact never saw a mainframe based system since then...

                                  I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                                  I believe the modern term is 'cloud' ... :~

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                                  • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                    I've been doing this computing lark for quite a long time and still like to get my hands dirty crafting beautifully manicured code. What I don't do, nor do I recall ever having to do, is create a custom sort algorithm. I don't think I could without looking it up; oh, I know what many of them are called and recall, vaguely, the workings but I doubt I could articulate any of them without looking it up first. There are probably many other 'skills' I learnt in the dim and distant past but have now forgotten due to lack of use (like Visual Basic :-)). What did you learn and never get around to using or, in fact, ever need to use?

                                    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                                    I think I've used most things I've learned with the exception of some weird stuff at University. Perhaps what is more interesting is what I used to use daily, but can't remember any more. Unix, C++, COM, VBXs, segmented memory on 16bit etc. Best forgotten for the most part.

                                    Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                      tbf we were degrading rather than evangelising though. ;)

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                                      Nish Nishant
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                                      Well, when I was young, we weren't even allowed to use that kind of language in here. Times sure have changed.

                                      Regards, Nish


                                      Check out 7 reasons C++ devs will love the VS 14 CTP by Nish Sivakumar Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                        Well, when I was young, we weren't even allowed to use that kind of language in here. Times sure have changed.

                                        Regards, Nish


                                        Check out 7 reasons C++ devs will love the VS 14 CTP by Nish Sivakumar Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                        Yep, these days bad language is OK... as long as it's ironic ;P

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                                          Duncan Edwards Jones wrote:

                                          I don't think I've knowingly used De Morgan's law[^] this decade.

                                          Really? I use it all the time... I'd just forgotten what it was called until just now. (!x && !y) == !(x || y) Ahh, memories...

                                          Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                                          Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                                          glennPattonWork3
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                                          I use quite a bit, I do hardware more than software. I still think it's odd to be honest. :confused:

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