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  • R realJSOP

    mark merrens wrote:

    What did you learn and never get around to using or, in fact, ever need to use?

    Algebra... and dealing with sane women.

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    R Giskard Reventlov
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    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

    dealing with sane women

    There are SANE women??? Who knew! :-) (Sorry wifey, that was a joke)

    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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    • R R Giskard Reventlov

      I've been doing this computing lark for quite a long time and still like to get my hands dirty crafting beautifully manicured code. What I don't do, nor do I recall ever having to do, is create a custom sort algorithm. I don't think I could without looking it up; oh, I know what many of them are called and recall, vaguely, the workings but I doubt I could articulate any of them without looking it up first. There are probably many other 'skills' I learnt in the dim and distant past but have now forgotten due to lack of use (like Visual Basic :-)). What did you learn and never get around to using or, in fact, ever need to use?

      "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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      ZurdoDev
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      All of us (at least I hope so) as kids know how to forgive quickly. The world would be a very different place if we didn't lose that skill. :^)

      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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      • R R Giskard Reventlov

        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

        dealing with sane women

        There are SANE women??? Who knew! :-) (Sorry wifey, that was a joke)

        "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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        realJSOP
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        It's a skill that I learned in case I needed it, but have never had the opportunity to use.

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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        • Z ZurdoDev

          All of us (at least I hope so) as kids know how to forgive quickly. The world would be a very different place if we didn't lose that skill. :^)

          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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          R Giskard Reventlov
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          Only a stupid person carries hatred. Mind you, like most men, I just forget: most things are just not that important that you need to expend emotional energy over.

          "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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          • R R Giskard Reventlov

            Only a stupid person carries hatred. Mind you, like most men, I just forget: most things are just not that important that you need to expend emotional energy over.

            "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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            ZurdoDev
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            mark merrens wrote:

            Only a stupid person carries hatred.

            That's a bit harsh. On one end of the spectrum, if some guy did unspeakable things to your daughter, you certainly would not be stupid to hold on to hate. Wrong yes, but stupid no.

            There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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            • Z ZurdoDev

              mark merrens wrote:

              Only a stupid person carries hatred.

              That's a bit harsh. On one end of the spectrum, if some guy did unspeakable things to your daughter, you certainly would not be stupid to hold on to hate. Wrong yes, but stupid no.

              There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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              R Giskard Reventlov
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              RyanDev wrote:

              That's a bit harsh.

              Perhaps.

              RyanDev wrote:

              you certainly would not be stupid to hold on to hate. Wrong yes, but stupid no.

              I disagree: what does hate get you? Revenge, on the other hand...

              "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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              • Z ZurdoDev

                mark merrens wrote:

                Only a stupid person carries hatred.

                That's a bit harsh. On one end of the spectrum, if some guy did unspeakable things to your daughter, you certainly would not be stupid to hold on to hate. Wrong yes, but stupid no.

                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                Forogar
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                if some guy did unspeakable things to your daughter

                I wouldn't hold on to hate. I also wouldn't hold on to him after I dangled him out of a 20-story building window. Let go the hate!

                - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                  if some guy did unspeakable things to your daughter

                  I wouldn't hold on to hate. I also wouldn't hold on to him after I dangled him out of a 20-story building window. Let go the hate!

                  - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                  ZurdoDev
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                  Indeed. :laugh:

                  There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                  • Z ZurdoDev

                    All of us (at least I hope so) as kids know how to forgive quickly. The world would be a very different place if we didn't lose that skill. :^)

                    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                    Lost User
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                    Or perhaps kids just forget more quickly. Also, I'm going to have to disagree - not with that it would change the world, but that it's a skill. Carrying a grudge long past its expiration date is what really takes skill.

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                      I use quite a bit, I do hardware more than software. I still think it's odd to be honest. :confused:

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                      Ian Shlasko
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                      Nah, makes perfect sense, unlike most "laws"... If I'm not taking the subway and I'm not taking the bus, then I'm not taking either one of them. (!subway && !bus) == !(subway || bus)

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                      • R R Giskard Reventlov

                        You win. :)

                        "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                        Andy Brummer
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                        Wait, what? I think I would have won if I had GOTTEN the chance to put it to work in a lab, instead I plunged right in to the internet boom of 2000. It's still neat to have at least a fuzzy understanding of everything that goes on to make computers work down to an atomic level.

                        Curvature of the Mind now with 3D

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                        • R R Giskard Reventlov

                          Only a stupid person carries hatred. Mind you, like most men, I just forget: most things are just not that important that you need to expend emotional energy over.

                          "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                          Lost User
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                          mark merrens wrote:

                          Only a stupid person carries hatred.

                          The cat hates water. Not because it is stupid, but because it is a helpful emotion.

                          mark merrens wrote:

                          like most men, I just forget

                          ..and history repeats :)

                          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                          • R R Giskard Reventlov

                            I've been doing this computing lark for quite a long time and still like to get my hands dirty crafting beautifully manicured code. What I don't do, nor do I recall ever having to do, is create a custom sort algorithm. I don't think I could without looking it up; oh, I know what many of them are called and recall, vaguely, the workings but I doubt I could articulate any of them without looking it up first. There are probably many other 'skills' I learnt in the dim and distant past but have now forgotten due to lack of use (like Visual Basic :-)). What did you learn and never get around to using or, in fact, ever need to use?

                            "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                            JSP - Jackson Structured Programming. Never seen it outside of a classroom.

                            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                              mark merrens wrote:

                              Only a stupid person carries hatred.

                              The cat hates water. Not because it is stupid, but because it is a helpful emotion.

                              mark merrens wrote:

                              like most men, I just forget

                              ..and history repeats :)

                              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                              R Giskard Reventlov
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                              Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                              The cat hates water. Not because it is stupid, but because it is a helpful emotion.

                              There is a difference between acknowledging hatred and carrying it.

                              "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                                I've been doing this computing lark for quite a long time and still like to get my hands dirty crafting beautifully manicured code. What I don't do, nor do I recall ever having to do, is create a custom sort algorithm. I don't think I could without looking it up; oh, I know what many of them are called and recall, vaguely, the workings but I doubt I could articulate any of them without looking it up first. There are probably many other 'skills' I learnt in the dim and distant past but have now forgotten due to lack of use (like Visual Basic :-)). What did you learn and never get around to using or, in fact, ever need to use?

                                "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                                Everyone I work with is a House MD, a Doc Martin, an Office-Space-Red-Bostich man. I'm the only sweet person "not nice, just sweet" :) That said I wish to emulate the great sales people that come to do demo's and are ever so nice and informative despite a hoard of ill tempered coders and statisticians. --- Every interview that I can remember was "write a binary sort, you have 10 minutes".

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                                • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                  I've been doing this computing lark for quite a long time and still like to get my hands dirty crafting beautifully manicured code. What I don't do, nor do I recall ever having to do, is create a custom sort algorithm. I don't think I could without looking it up; oh, I know what many of them are called and recall, vaguely, the workings but I doubt I could articulate any of them without looking it up first. There are probably many other 'skills' I learnt in the dim and distant past but have now forgotten due to lack of use (like Visual Basic :-)). What did you learn and never get around to using or, in fact, ever need to use?

                                  "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                                  mark merrens wrote:

                                  What did you learn and never get around to using or, in fact, ever need to use?

                                  Infinite series summations - used exactly once. At least the use then was amusing. Never: Differential equations. Electrical field theory. Perfect refrigerators (figured out in the class that I wouldn't need that one.) Proving why there are only 5 platonic solids Infinite series multiplications Lisp My favorite of course was "Great Books". Two semesters. Definitely the case where the movie is better. Fortunately there are vast number of movies made from most (or even all far as I know) of the books that were covered.

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                                    I've been doing this computing lark for quite a long time and still like to get my hands dirty crafting beautifully manicured code. What I don't do, nor do I recall ever having to do, is create a custom sort algorithm. I don't think I could without looking it up; oh, I know what many of them are called and recall, vaguely, the workings but I doubt I could articulate any of them without looking it up first. There are probably many other 'skills' I learnt in the dim and distant past but have now forgotten due to lack of use (like Visual Basic :-)). What did you learn and never get around to using or, in fact, ever need to use?

                                    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                                    Funnily enough I wrote a bubble sort only the other day - but only as an explanation to someone how they could sort a high-score table. Things I learned but have now forgotten are many - due to my advanced age and overuse of stimulants, but they include; The hex values of every 6502 op-code. When I was writing games on a 6502 platform I often wrote code in a notebook and hand-compiled. It got to the point where I could just type in op-codes. How to skateboard (although I actually do remember how, I just can't do it any more due to a fear of falling and killing myself) Delphi RPG Bonking (see skateboarding)

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                                      I've been doing this computing lark for quite a long time and still like to get my hands dirty crafting beautifully manicured code. What I don't do, nor do I recall ever having to do, is create a custom sort algorithm. I don't think I could without looking it up; oh, I know what many of them are called and recall, vaguely, the workings but I doubt I could articulate any of them without looking it up first. There are probably many other 'skills' I learnt in the dim and distant past but have now forgotten due to lack of use (like Visual Basic :-)). What did you learn and never get around to using or, in fact, ever need to use?

                                      "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                                      Правец 8C assembly language and x86 assembly. As a web developer I haven't programmed in this languages in years.

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                                      • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                        I've been doing this computing lark for quite a long time and still like to get my hands dirty crafting beautifully manicured code. What I don't do, nor do I recall ever having to do, is create a custom sort algorithm. I don't think I could without looking it up; oh, I know what many of them are called and recall, vaguely, the workings but I doubt I could articulate any of them without looking it up first. There are probably many other 'skills' I learnt in the dim and distant past but have now forgotten due to lack of use (like Visual Basic :-)). What did you learn and never get around to using or, in fact, ever need to use?

                                        "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                                        So far anything math related (aside from the very simple primary school stuff like adding, subtracting etc.). Sure, it keeps coming back to haunt me. I now need it again for my IT study. Knowing math certainly gives us more insight into the world, physics, biology, chemistry, computing... The list goes on and on. But I've never actually needed it myself! I sort lists every day, I look up records in lists and tables, I do all that mathy stuff, but the math was implemented by others. Don't ask me to solve for x or to write/think of an algorithm. I did it all back in school, but can't remember for the life of me...

                                        It's an OO world.

                                        public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
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                                        • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                          I've been doing this computing lark for quite a long time and still like to get my hands dirty crafting beautifully manicured code. What I don't do, nor do I recall ever having to do, is create a custom sort algorithm. I don't think I could without looking it up; oh, I know what many of them are called and recall, vaguely, the workings but I doubt I could articulate any of them without looking it up first. There are probably many other 'skills' I learnt in the dim and distant past but have now forgotten due to lack of use (like Visual Basic :-)). What did you learn and never get around to using or, in fact, ever need to use?

                                          "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                                          I surprised myself a while ago when I didn't have a calculator handy and had to divide a five-digit number by a three-digit number and didn't remember how to do it with paper and pencil. Note that I saw my first 4-function electronic calculator ever when I was in last year of high school; I never took a single exam when calculators were accepted as a tool. Admittedly, after a little fiddling back and forth, and a lot of head scratching, I did succeed in performing the division by hand. Yet it did scare me. I never noticed that I no more could do division with ease.

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