Eclipse
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Lots of agreement here....apart from me. Don't get me wrong: the best debugger I have ever seen is Visual Studio's. But as an editor and general development environment I haven't seen anything better, and cool that it is cross platform. What I would say though is that one or two of the aspects that I use regularly (e.g. code reformat) have started to get a bit buggy). Also, I would say that, like Libre/OpenOffice, the configuration system can be a bit impenetrable. It's really hard to find things, especially if you don't know what they call it in Eclipse lingo. Only the other day, I was trying to add a system macro in a C++ project. All the addition buttons were greyed out. It took me ages to find that you have to add them to a "user-defined" plugin. From an architectural point of view, I can see why it is like that, but it just wasn't clear to me at the time. In summary, there is a steep learning curve, but I love it to bits. My particular preferred environment is Eclipse for project management, edit and general source exploration; for debug VS blows Eclipse into the wind at least on the Microsoft platform and for build I use a platform independent build framework in the console. It sounds convoluted, but I actually like it.
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I feel your pain. I am feeling your pain. Oh! The pain! My current project is a BIRT reporting web app. I find eclipse a morass of perspectives and confusing tab configurations and unintuitivity <- just made that up in honor of this thread. There are times when gouging my eyes out with a fork would be a delightful diversion. I have a better experience using NetBeans but it isn't as ubiquitous. When creating desktop Java apps, using the window layout editor is comparable to the forms designer in VS. Not bad really. I equate the near-vertical learning curve with eclipse, to learning to develop Windows apps back in the day using VC++ 6. Took me a long time to get the feel and grok the contexts.
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Gack. Unfortunately, I'm and embedded developer that works with TI DSPs. A few years ago, TI switch from a VC6 style IDE to Eclipse. I've never seen such a pig before. I've gotten to the point where after the base project is setup through Eclipse, I switch to using 'make' to do my builds and jEdit for my editing purposes. The only thing I then use Eclipse for is for the debugger. My employer has finally given me access to some of the Parasoft tools so I'll probably spend a little more time in Eclipse, if only for the static analysis tools. Eclipse problems and complaints: 1) Slow, slow, slow and slow. I can walk down to the kitchen, buy a soda and get back to my desk before Eclipse is done loading. 2) If I have a failure with an update, ~80% of the time Eclipse will no longer start. I'll end up having to reinstall the whole environment. (Don't know if this is an Eclipse problem or a TI problem) 3) Why the hell would I want to see every file in the source directory in my project tree. Let me specify the files that are in the project. I have more than just 3 complaints but over all, I like the old style IDE much better than the Eclipse version. The only obvious advantage to using Eclipse is that I could also be using it in linux.
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Yeah Eclipse is really bad, always has been and still seems to be judging by my run in with the Android developer toolkit which is based on it. Its concept of 'workspace' is just bizarre and confuses me. I recommend IntelliJ's IDEA, I've used that in anger at work and it has a lot of really good stuff. It's where a lot of what is in Resharper comes from.
"Its concept of 'workspace' is just bizarre and confuses me." I can live with the weird project concept. What I don't understand is how so many people can be fanboys for an editor that doesn't even properly support "undo" It's mess, there is no way to know what will actually be undone (or what was actually undone for that matter.) Did you click on another part of the UI after that typing mistake? Don't worry we'll just use the global undo stack and undo your last refactoring instead of the typing error. Did that refactor include creating a new file (that you edited?) No problem we'll throw that away too...
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Yeah, Eclipse it's a terrible IDE, i had to use it once and i swore i'll never do it again unless i really have too. If you're developing on Java NetBeans is far better.
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I think it seems to be one of those projects that's got too big for its boots. I think the new google IDE might be better - but it means you have to write in Java ! Rock and Hard Place
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Why do you say it's not allowed - I haven't noticed anything about that?
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As far as I see in contest description:
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Article 2 - Setting Up Your Android Development Environment Comparison of the new Android Studio vs. Eclipse IDEs
I thought that assumes using of the above IDEs
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As far as I see in contest description:
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Article 2 - Setting Up Your Android Development Environment Comparison of the new Android Studio vs. Eclipse IDEs
I thought that assumes using of the above IDEs
Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies. T.Jefferson
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I dumped eclipse and switched to the new Android Studio. Far more productive even as a beta product.