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    Mycroft Holmes
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    After seeing Richards response in this thread [^]I am prompted to ask whether rooting a phone is considered hacking. I am under the impression rooting the phone will give you back the ability to control the apps installed and running on you phone/fondleslab. I find it alarming that when I clear memory it tells me 25 apps have been closed. Not being able to uninstall Youtube and all the Samsung crap on my phone is irritating. So what else does rooting the dammed thing do (other than potentially turning it into a brick) that may be considered hacking.

    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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      After seeing Richards response in this thread [^]I am prompted to ask whether rooting a phone is considered hacking. I am under the impression rooting the phone will give you back the ability to control the apps installed and running on you phone/fondleslab. I find it alarming that when I clear memory it tells me 25 apps have been closed. Not being able to uninstall Youtube and all the Samsung crap on my phone is irritating. So what else does rooting the dammed thing do (other than potentially turning it into a brick) that may be considered hacking.

      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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      Richard Andrew x64
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      Lots of people confuse hacking with criminal behavior when they are two different things. I don't see anything wrong with rooting your own phone. Now if you were trying to root other people's phone so that you could steal from them, that's another matter. :)

      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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        After seeing Richards response in this thread [^]I am prompted to ask whether rooting a phone is considered hacking. I am under the impression rooting the phone will give you back the ability to control the apps installed and running on you phone/fondleslab. I find it alarming that when I clear memory it tells me 25 apps have been closed. Not being able to uninstall Youtube and all the Samsung crap on my phone is irritating. So what else does rooting the dammed thing do (other than potentially turning it into a brick) that may be considered hacking.

        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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        Joan M
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        See cyanogenmod, maclaw, and others, this works, my wife received a semi-bricked phone from his youngest brother and after going through maclaw it works like charm. She has a S3 mini with KIT KAT now... It's pretty easy to recover a phone after the process, and the explanations in both pages are great... Of course you decide even if you want to install google applications or not...

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          See cyanogenmod, maclaw, and others, this works, my wife received a semi-bricked phone from his youngest brother and after going through maclaw it works like charm. She has a S3 mini with KIT KAT now... It's pretty easy to recover a phone after the process, and the explanations in both pages are great... Of course you decide even if you want to install google applications or not...

          [www.tamautomation.com] | Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing. [YouTube channel]

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          LloydA111
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          Joan Murt wrote:

          She has a S3 mini with KIT KAT now...

          Got a link for that? Pretty pissed off Samsung decided to stop updating the S3 barely 3 months after I bought it.

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            After seeing Richards response in this thread [^]I am prompted to ask whether rooting a phone is considered hacking. I am under the impression rooting the phone will give you back the ability to control the apps installed and running on you phone/fondleslab. I find it alarming that when I clear memory it tells me 25 apps have been closed. Not being able to uninstall Youtube and all the Samsung crap on my phone is irritating. So what else does rooting the dammed thing do (other than potentially turning it into a brick) that may be considered hacking.

            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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            Commonly speaking, hacking is anything that changes the modification of the product from the manufacturers specifications. So just the act of rooting the phone could be considered hacking and anything extra is just apart of that hacking. However, do not get drawn up on the term hacking. Hacking is cool because of what you can you with it. Rooting your phone allows you the access to change or add pretty much anything onto your phone's system. Android is open-source so it already has or can get a lot of software features without rooting the system (which most times voids the warranty). However, if you really wanted to get out of the default manufacturers experience, you can root and this gives you a phone without any manufacturers limitations. Some things you can do without the limitations are installing mods and/or root apps onto your system. What makes these apps different from your regular apps, that you can get on the marketplace without rooting your phone, is what that apps can do. My favourites for Samsung phones are SD Booster, Full!screen, Wanam Xposed, Greenify, and for your Samsung crap Root Uninstall. SD Booster improves the speed of SD cards from increasing the cache memory used in the read/write process. It also can remember the settings of specific SD cards, useful, if you have more than one SD card. Full!screen gets rid of the bottom control bar. Some people like the bar, I don't. Wanam Xposed is a speed and system tweaker. It has a lot of features that I found useful like the build-in call recorder. Greenify (My favourite) is a speed tweaker. It hibernates heavy handed applications that hog your system resources. Root Uninstall is a (wait for it) uninstalling application. It allows you to clean up the Samsung junk and Youtube if you really want to. Now those were only a few, there are thousands of applications only meant for rooted phones. Just make sure that the app is safe. From rooting your phone you are making it extremely easy to install a mod and/or app that will fry your system in an instant. Hope this answers your question, CodeFate. PS. Most people root their phone to install paid applications for free. Being a developer making such applications, I don't condone this. While I do understand there will always be some piracy, I do want people to make the right decision. So we developers can still make outstanding applications or improve existing ones.

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              Joan Murt wrote:

              She has a S3 mini with KIT KAT now...

              Got a link for that? Pretty pissed off Samsung decided to stop updating the S3 barely 3 months after I bought it.

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              See: Stable releases of cyanogenmod: http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?type=stable[^] Another page that gives resources about that: http://maclaw.pl/[^] Hope this helps...

              [www.tamautomation.com] | Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing. [YouTube channel]

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                Commonly speaking, hacking is anything that changes the modification of the product from the manufacturers specifications. So just the act of rooting the phone could be considered hacking and anything extra is just apart of that hacking. However, do not get drawn up on the term hacking. Hacking is cool because of what you can you with it. Rooting your phone allows you the access to change or add pretty much anything onto your phone's system. Android is open-source so it already has or can get a lot of software features without rooting the system (which most times voids the warranty). However, if you really wanted to get out of the default manufacturers experience, you can root and this gives you a phone without any manufacturers limitations. Some things you can do without the limitations are installing mods and/or root apps onto your system. What makes these apps different from your regular apps, that you can get on the marketplace without rooting your phone, is what that apps can do. My favourites for Samsung phones are SD Booster, Full!screen, Wanam Xposed, Greenify, and for your Samsung crap Root Uninstall. SD Booster improves the speed of SD cards from increasing the cache memory used in the read/write process. It also can remember the settings of specific SD cards, useful, if you have more than one SD card. Full!screen gets rid of the bottom control bar. Some people like the bar, I don't. Wanam Xposed is a speed and system tweaker. It has a lot of features that I found useful like the build-in call recorder. Greenify (My favourite) is a speed tweaker. It hibernates heavy handed applications that hog your system resources. Root Uninstall is a (wait for it) uninstalling application. It allows you to clean up the Samsung junk and Youtube if you really want to. Now those were only a few, there are thousands of applications only meant for rooted phones. Just make sure that the app is safe. From rooting your phone you are making it extremely easy to install a mod and/or app that will fry your system in an instant. Hope this answers your question, CodeFate. PS. Most people root their phone to install paid applications for free. Being a developer making such applications, I don't condone this. While I do understand there will always be some piracy, I do want people to make the right decision. So we developers can still make outstanding applications or improve existing ones.

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                Mycroft Holmes
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                CodeFate wrote:

                Most people root their phone to install paid applications for free

                That I did not know - innocent I guess. Thanks for that information, I would only be interested in speeding up the system and removing the crap wear. I do wonder if there is an opportunity to set up a rooted app market?

                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                • M Mycroft Holmes

                  After seeing Richards response in this thread [^]I am prompted to ask whether rooting a phone is considered hacking. I am under the impression rooting the phone will give you back the ability to control the apps installed and running on you phone/fondleslab. I find it alarming that when I clear memory it tells me 25 apps have been closed. Not being able to uninstall Youtube and all the Samsung crap on my phone is irritating. So what else does rooting the dammed thing do (other than potentially turning it into a brick) that may be considered hacking.

                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                  Chris Quinn
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                  Rooting your phone has a different meaning in Australia

                  ========================================================= I'm an optoholic - my glass is always half full of vodka. =========================================================

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                    Rooting your phone has a different meaning in Australia

                    ========================================================= I'm an optoholic - my glass is always half full of vodka. =========================================================

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                    Mycroft Holmes
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                    Yes I know, I have trouble with the expression in polite company, not that I spend much time in polite company!

                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                      Yes I know, I have trouble with the expression in polite company, not that I spend much time in polite company!

                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                      I often think that iPhone users must be rooting their phones on a regular basis

                      ========================================================= I'm an optoholic - my glass is always half full of vodka. =========================================================

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