Stackoverflow website sucks because of its moderators and Top Users
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Nobody ever won an argument with my mum! Even though she stopped being a probation officer 20 years ago, her previous clients still jump when they hear her name! :laugh: She once had a newspaper journalist arrested, held in the cells overnight, and taken to court the next morning just so he could see what it was like. Needless to say, he only found out it wasn't real after the case and sentence...
You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)
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To be fair, I think they have the same problem that Q&A does here - bit they've just gone too far! That's a fine line we draw - we don't want idiots or lazy people asking questions - but sometimes people can get a bit over-zealous! the motto should be, I think, "there is no such thing as a bad question" Rather than "your question is crap - downvoted" people should be answering "your question crap because xxxxx - how can we help you phrase it better ? Power corrupts, and all that, in action, unfortunately! it is interesting how there are a few people here (i.e. on CP) who are the very epitome of calm, assured experience with a twist of helpfulness (I'm thinking of you, Boyo, and you Jedi && !Stig) but there are also those who would be better placed at SO (I'm thinking of you, 'he who must not be named) I wonder why the latter stay here
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Indeed, there's a lot of needless down-voting here as well. I think voting should be way down the list of people's priorities, but I think some here think they have to vote on everything. Voting isn't helping. Are you here to help? Or are you just here to feel superior? (Rhetorical, not directed at you, Maxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.) What if users had a limit of ten votes per day?
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Tough croud! I personally don't mind SO, it has helped me out of a conundrum more times than I can remember. It isn't a friendly place though, if you ask a question and put "thanks in advance" or something similar at the end, sooner or later some ass-hat will come along and edit the "thanks" part out of your question, and if you are new and ask a question that isn't perfect[^] they are bloody brutal. If you read and follow their rules though, you can actually get a lot of value out of the site, even if it is full of Americans :^) .
HomerTheGreat wrote:
"thanks in advance"
X| Can't stand that. But I never edit the content of questions, usually I just add or fix
pretags. Edit: I just remembered that recently I edited a question that was asked in Portugese. I passed it through a translator and added the English translation. -
HomerTheGreat wrote:
even if it is full of Americans
Well, Jon Skeet's English.
What about his English? It seems pretty good to me.
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In stackoverflow, if a new one asks a simple question, then the top users starts down voting, ranting. If someone don't have knowledge on particular topic or another then the regular users start insulting them. They call themselves as experts. They are playing with site good reputation. Overall this website has became very funny.
The way they treat people there on SO has kept me from even thinking of creating an account there.
"I've seen more information on a frickin' sticky note!" - Dave Kreskowiak
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In stackoverflow, if a new one asks a simple question, then the top users starts down voting, ranting. If someone don't have knowledge on particular topic or another then the regular users start insulting them. They call themselves as experts. They are playing with site good reputation. Overall this website has became very funny.
I created an account and posted a very small number of answers. One answer had a small inaccuracy in it and I was voted down and flamed. The helpful answers were not even acknowledged. That led to me cancelling my account and carrying on with Codeproject - where people are much more friendly and helpful.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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In stackoverflow, if a new one asks a simple question, then the top users starts down voting, ranting. If someone don't have knowledge on particular topic or another then the regular users start insulting them. They call themselves as experts. They are playing with site good reputation. Overall this website has became very funny.
I'm not sure QA here is that much better. It depends a lot on who you happen to run into.
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HomerTheGreat wrote:
even if it is full of Americans
Well, Jon Skeet's English.
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What about his English? It seems pretty good to me.
That is a valid apostrophe without possession.
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That is a valid apostrophe without possession.
Yes, I know. Yet ambiguous.
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The way they treat people there on SO has kept me from even thinking of creating an account there.
"I've seen more information on a frickin' sticky note!" - Dave Kreskowiak
You can create an account there? :confused:
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You can create an account there? :confused:
To sign up, which I never have done, and do not plan on it, seeing what kind of an online community they look like...
"I've seen more information on a frickin' sticky note!" - Dave Kreskowiak
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In stackoverflow, if a new one asks a simple question, then the top users starts down voting, ranting. If someone don't have knowledge on particular topic or another then the regular users start insulting them. They call themselves as experts. They are playing with site good reputation. Overall this website has became very funny.
I will jump in belatedly on this and say that I have never experienced those problems. The times I've asked a question, I've gotten a decent reply in short order. No insults, no ranting, no down voting. So, I'm not sure what you're talking about. Marc
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I will jump in belatedly on this and say that I have never experienced those problems. The times I've asked a question, I've gotten a decent reply in short order. No insults, no ranting, no down voting. So, I'm not sure what you're talking about. Marc
Same experience here my friend. I think the thing that a lot of people don't realize is that SO isn't designed to be a place of social interaction - not even close. Furthermore, many of the site's policies have been adjusted over time to become more newb-friendly. I think many of those caught out by SO users' militant behaviour have simply failed to read the rules/expectations in the help centre and failed to grasp and appreciate the culture of the site. Failure to do these generally results in an introduction to a wire-brush spinning at 2800 rpm. To be entirely honest (and perhaps arrogant?) - I think that a lot of users need to not be so precious when they receive a wire-brushing - to take the criticism on-board, learn from it and move on.
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In stackoverflow, if a new one asks a simple question, then the top users starts down voting, ranting. If someone don't have knowledge on particular topic or another then the regular users start insulting them. They call themselves as experts. They are playing with site good reputation. Overall this website has became very funny.
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I never tried SO. They discriminate newbies, so I have a feeling that they will discriminate women more. :sigh:
Don't mind those people who say you're not HOT. At least you know you're COOL. I'm not afraid of falling, I'm afraid of the sudden stop at the end of the fall! - Richard Andrew x64
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In stackoverflow, if a new one asks a simple question, then the top users starts down voting, ranting. If someone don't have knowledge on particular topic or another then the regular users start insulting them. They call themselves as experts. They are playing with site good reputation. Overall this website has became very funny.
I disagree. They can be rude, yes, but usually it's the questions that could be easily googled that get them going. If something was answered (maybe even on SO!) and yet it is asked again and again...they GIVE their free time in an attempt to help genuine problems...once SO got reputation they wasted their time answering how to setup arrays in C# or similar (stupid / lazy / unnecessary) questions. Give the guys a break, use search before you ask and THEN ask the question along with the list of tried things that did not work for you. And besides, looking for the answers is the way you become an expert (by your own words).
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In stackoverflow, if a new one asks a simple question, then the top users starts down voting, ranting. If someone don't have knowledge on particular topic or another then the regular users start insulting them. They call themselves as experts. They are playing with site good reputation. Overall this website has became very funny.
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In stackoverflow, if a new one asks a simple question, then the top users starts down voting, ranting. If someone don't have knowledge on particular topic or another then the regular users start insulting them. They call themselves as experts. They are playing with site good reputation. Overall this website has became very funny.
Unfortunately, this also happens in Code Project. And it deeply, deeply saddens me. Code Project has the best newsletters, but not the best forums. A lot of the people who participate in CP forums have the worst attitude towards ignorance. This is why I rarely participate in discussions in Code Project. The attitude from a lot of my peers here is appaling. Anyway, I always say: "Ignorance is sacred. But not wanting to learn is wrong."
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Well, you can't tar them all with the same brush, and surely it is better to politely ask for a better phrased question that to blurt off about them being thick as a brick? There's a queue at the counter, and the person at the front asks for a coffee. The server points to the large sign saying "Sorry - our coffee machine is broken so we cannot provide any coffee today" The next person comes up and asks for a coffee. repeat. Repeat. When the tenth person asks for a coffee, the punch on the nose is a bit of a surprise. That's what it must be like on Q&A for some people. they maybe didn't read the rules, they just wanted their coffee, but don't punch 'em on the nose...
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Just taking the analogy a step further, eventually the coffee-shop customers who do read the signs stop coming because of the huge queue of people who don't. I think the general comments about SO are correct (that's why I'm here :)) but there is a flip side. Because SO are *so* strict, they do actually have - in my opinion - the best Q&A around. While I don't always agree with their decisions (or comments) I think the principle to try and keep questions and answers as readable and useful as possible should be commended. Sure, it'll upset a few people but at the end of the day, when you search in Google for a solution to your problem, which sites come up first almost every time? You can't please everyone all of the time though :java: [EDIT] I'll just add this, so my comment is clearer. A website (any website) is only as good as its content. At the moment on CP there's quite a lot of cruft in the Q&A section which means - I imagine for most - SO is the go-to site for getting decent information.
