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Why Microsoft, why? It must be a virus....

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    charlieg
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    I'm not sure if I want to call this a rant or a joke. I'm trying to get a simple database up and running on Sql Server. I DON'T CARE WHAT VERSION. I simply cannot find the management tools entry for "Create elephanting database". It appears that over the past year, I have installed items that conflict. Fine, I'll clean it up. This is what I find in my Uninstall list - no less than 20 items related to this product. Mind you, I don't remember installing ANY of them. And my gin intake is sadly way way down.

    Microsoft SQL server 20o5 ____
    J Microsoft SQL Server 2oo5 (64-bit)
    J Microsoft sqL senver 200s Bachward comeatibility
    I Microsoft SQL Server 2oo5 compact Edition [ENu]
    J Microsoft SQL Senver 2008 Management objects
    J Microsoft SQL Server 2oo8 R2
    J Microsoft SQL Server 2008 R2 Native client
    J Microsoft SQL Server 2008 R2 Setup (English)
    J Microsoft SQL Senver 20o8 setup Support riles
    3 Microsoft sqL Senver 2o12 command Line Utilities
    Microsoft SQL Sewver 2012 Data-Tier App Framework
    J Microsoft SQL Server 2012 Data-Tier Aep rramewonk
    j Microsoft sqL Senver 2o12 Express Lo

    Now I start the process of peeling the debris from my machine..... it's a big mess of installation spaghetti.

    Charlie Gilley
    Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...

    "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
    “They who can

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      I'm not sure if I want to call this a rant or a joke. I'm trying to get a simple database up and running on Sql Server. I DON'T CARE WHAT VERSION. I simply cannot find the management tools entry for "Create elephanting database". It appears that over the past year, I have installed items that conflict. Fine, I'll clean it up. This is what I find in my Uninstall list - no less than 20 items related to this product. Mind you, I don't remember installing ANY of them. And my gin intake is sadly way way down.

      Microsoft SQL server 20o5 ____
      J Microsoft SQL Server 2oo5 (64-bit)
      J Microsoft sqL senver 200s Bachward comeatibility
      I Microsoft SQL Server 2oo5 compact Edition [ENu]
      J Microsoft SQL Senver 2008 Management objects
      J Microsoft SQL Server 2oo8 R2
      J Microsoft SQL Server 2008 R2 Native client
      J Microsoft SQL Server 2008 R2 Setup (English)
      J Microsoft SQL Senver 20o8 setup Support riles
      3 Microsoft sqL Senver 2o12 command Line Utilities
      Microsoft SQL Sewver 2012 Data-Tier App Framework
      J Microsoft SQL Server 2012 Data-Tier Aep rramewonk
      j Microsoft sqL Senver 2o12 Express Lo

      Now I start the process of peeling the debris from my machine..... it's a big mess of installation spaghetti.

      Charlie Gilley
      Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...

      "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
      “They who can

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      Mycroft Holmes
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      I feel your pain, I have just finished removing all the SQL bits from my machine with the view to installing 2014, took hours. Then I ran a registry cleaner as the last time (2012) I installed SQL it bitched about express version, from VS being installed. Bloody nightmare. Oh I got the registry cleaner from free tools recommended by Bill Woodruff, cleaned 7k+ invalid entries from the registry and I didn't even need the restore point :-O . Todays exercise, install SQL 2014, I am not optimistic!

      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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        I feel your pain, I have just finished removing all the SQL bits from my machine with the view to installing 2014, took hours. Then I ran a registry cleaner as the last time (2012) I installed SQL it bitched about express version, from VS being installed. Bloody nightmare. Oh I got the registry cleaner from free tools recommended by Bill Woodruff, cleaned 7k+ invalid entries from the registry and I didn't even need the restore point :-O . Todays exercise, install SQL 2014, I am not optimistic!

        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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        charlieg
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        My rant has more to do with "Why do you make it so elephanting hard?" What I have found is that I had installed various applications that made use of assorted versions of Sql Server. This is where the multitude of debris came from. Anytime I tried to remove one, I would receive an ominous warning about how something else depended on it. Finally, I just said f*** it and plowed on. And eventually, it was all removed. So, I reinstalled 2005 (compatible with my VS 2008, yes, I know I need an upgrade), and now I am at the point of trying to connect to Sql Server via the mgt tool to create a database. Nothing gets me past an ominous message of not being able to connect.... No clues, nothing. Now, I have a good idea what I need to do, but really, it should not be this hard. I now have to stop playing and start working. Maybe next week.

        Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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          My rant has more to do with "Why do you make it so elephanting hard?" What I have found is that I had installed various applications that made use of assorted versions of Sql Server. This is where the multitude of debris came from. Anytime I tried to remove one, I would receive an ominous warning about how something else depended on it. Finally, I just said f*** it and plowed on. And eventually, it was all removed. So, I reinstalled 2005 (compatible with my VS 2008, yes, I know I need an upgrade), and now I am at the point of trying to connect to Sql Server via the mgt tool to create a database. Nothing gets me past an ominous message of not being able to connect.... No clues, nothing. Now, I have a good idea what I need to do, but really, it should not be this hard. I now have to stop playing and start working. Maybe next week.

          Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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          Mycroft Holmes
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          2014 installed without a problem, unlike 2008/2012 which both required various tweaks to get them to work properly. I can understand using 2005, like word I have not needed any of the newer features of SQL Server for some time. Just be thankful you are not trying to install Oracle ;P

          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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            2014 installed without a problem, unlike 2008/2012 which both required various tweaks to get them to work properly. I can understand using 2005, like word I have not needed any of the newer features of SQL Server for some time. Just be thankful you are not trying to install Oracle ;P

            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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            charlieg
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            hahahaha - I've done that in a past job. On clustered AIX machines with RAID.

            Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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              I'm not sure if I want to call this a rant or a joke. I'm trying to get a simple database up and running on Sql Server. I DON'T CARE WHAT VERSION. I simply cannot find the management tools entry for "Create elephanting database". It appears that over the past year, I have installed items that conflict. Fine, I'll clean it up. This is what I find in my Uninstall list - no less than 20 items related to this product. Mind you, I don't remember installing ANY of them. And my gin intake is sadly way way down.

              Microsoft SQL server 20o5 ____
              J Microsoft SQL Server 2oo5 (64-bit)
              J Microsoft sqL senver 200s Bachward comeatibility
              I Microsoft SQL Server 2oo5 compact Edition [ENu]
              J Microsoft SQL Senver 2008 Management objects
              J Microsoft SQL Server 2oo8 R2
              J Microsoft SQL Server 2008 R2 Native client
              J Microsoft SQL Server 2008 R2 Setup (English)
              J Microsoft SQL Senver 20o8 setup Support riles
              3 Microsoft sqL Senver 2o12 command Line Utilities
              Microsoft SQL Sewver 2012 Data-Tier App Framework
              J Microsoft SQL Server 2012 Data-Tier Aep rramewonk
              j Microsoft sqL Senver 2o12 Express Lo

              Now I start the process of peeling the debris from my machine..... it's a big mess of installation spaghetti.

              Charlie Gilley
              Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...

              "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
              “They who can

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              Rick Seenarine
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              And people ask why do I use virtual machines in my development.... This reason above is exactly why!

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                And people ask why do I use virtual machines in my development.... This reason above is exactly why!

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                charlieg
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                :thumbsup: Amen and amen. Exactly why I am moving in that direction. Or, was, I distract easily.

                Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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