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    Keith Barrow
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    I discovered my Ford Focus has a neat little anti-theft feature that renders the bonnet unable to open if the lockj behind the blue badge is fiddled with . The problem is it also renders my bonnet unable to open if you cross a speed bump too quickly, park on the kerb or look at it in a funny way (seriously - neither me nor the missus have done anything harsh to the car, other than the speed bump thing, even that wasn't bad). I had a quick look, couldn't get it open, researched online and it turns out the best solution on the t'interwebs could provide involved a 12" screwdriver to smash the assembly that keeps the thing locked, or a drill bit that Dirk Diggler would find intimidating. Anyhoo, got some advice off my normal local garage, who actually advised me to take it to the dealership as they have an actual tool to sort this as the fault was so common. So the missus booked the jalopy in, explaining the problem in surprising detail for someone with a social sciences background. I hied me off to in the car on Saturday morning and caught the bus (transport of delight 50% charver free) back into town. About 2 hours later the dealer got back in touch - with a detailed report "The anti-theft bonnet latch mechanism has probably been accidentally triggered and we need to break into the car from underneath, then replace the latch". 2 hours, to basically tell us what we'd told them. Also, that the exhaust mount had gone (which we'd also asked them to look at) but also the cat had come loose internally. New exhaust system? £700. I can fit an after market stainless steel one myself for less than half that.

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      I discovered my Ford Focus has a neat little anti-theft feature that renders the bonnet unable to open if the lockj behind the blue badge is fiddled with . The problem is it also renders my bonnet unable to open if you cross a speed bump too quickly, park on the kerb or look at it in a funny way (seriously - neither me nor the missus have done anything harsh to the car, other than the speed bump thing, even that wasn't bad). I had a quick look, couldn't get it open, researched online and it turns out the best solution on the t'interwebs could provide involved a 12" screwdriver to smash the assembly that keeps the thing locked, or a drill bit that Dirk Diggler would find intimidating. Anyhoo, got some advice off my normal local garage, who actually advised me to take it to the dealership as they have an actual tool to sort this as the fault was so common. So the missus booked the jalopy in, explaining the problem in surprising detail for someone with a social sciences background. I hied me off to in the car on Saturday morning and caught the bus (transport of delight 50% charver free) back into town. About 2 hours later the dealer got back in touch - with a detailed report "The anti-theft bonnet latch mechanism has probably been accidentally triggered and we need to break into the car from underneath, then replace the latch". 2 hours, to basically tell us what we'd told them. Also, that the exhaust mount had gone (which we'd also asked them to look at) but also the cat had come loose internally. New exhaust system? £700. I can fit an after market stainless steel one myself for less than half that.

      Alberto Brandolini:

      The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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      Keith Barrow wrote:

      who actually advised me to take it to the dealership as they have an actual tool to sort this as the fault was so common

      So basically, I steal a Ford, cannot open the bonnet, go to the first Ford dealership around the corner, and he opens it for me with a special tool which must probably not be something Ford-official ? Sounds about right.

      ~RaGE();

      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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        I discovered my Ford Focus has a neat little anti-theft feature that renders the bonnet unable to open if the lockj behind the blue badge is fiddled with . The problem is it also renders my bonnet unable to open if you cross a speed bump too quickly, park on the kerb or look at it in a funny way (seriously - neither me nor the missus have done anything harsh to the car, other than the speed bump thing, even that wasn't bad). I had a quick look, couldn't get it open, researched online and it turns out the best solution on the t'interwebs could provide involved a 12" screwdriver to smash the assembly that keeps the thing locked, or a drill bit that Dirk Diggler would find intimidating. Anyhoo, got some advice off my normal local garage, who actually advised me to take it to the dealership as they have an actual tool to sort this as the fault was so common. So the missus booked the jalopy in, explaining the problem in surprising detail for someone with a social sciences background. I hied me off to in the car on Saturday morning and caught the bus (transport of delight 50% charver free) back into town. About 2 hours later the dealer got back in touch - with a detailed report "The anti-theft bonnet latch mechanism has probably been accidentally triggered and we need to break into the car from underneath, then replace the latch". 2 hours, to basically tell us what we'd told them. Also, that the exhaust mount had gone (which we'd also asked them to look at) but also the cat had come loose internally. New exhaust system? £700. I can fit an after market stainless steel one myself for less than half that.

        Alberto Brandolini:

        The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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        Sounds like software to me: a legally bought product that may be locked off accidentally because of a stupid DRM mechanism, and essentially can only be used properly with the DRM removed by hackers .... :doh:

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          I discovered my Ford Focus has a neat little anti-theft feature that renders the bonnet unable to open if the lockj behind the blue badge is fiddled with . The problem is it also renders my bonnet unable to open if you cross a speed bump too quickly, park on the kerb or look at it in a funny way (seriously - neither me nor the missus have done anything harsh to the car, other than the speed bump thing, even that wasn't bad). I had a quick look, couldn't get it open, researched online and it turns out the best solution on the t'interwebs could provide involved a 12" screwdriver to smash the assembly that keeps the thing locked, or a drill bit that Dirk Diggler would find intimidating. Anyhoo, got some advice off my normal local garage, who actually advised me to take it to the dealership as they have an actual tool to sort this as the fault was so common. So the missus booked the jalopy in, explaining the problem in surprising detail for someone with a social sciences background. I hied me off to in the car on Saturday morning and caught the bus (transport of delight 50% charver free) back into town. About 2 hours later the dealer got back in touch - with a detailed report "The anti-theft bonnet latch mechanism has probably been accidentally triggered and we need to break into the car from underneath, then replace the latch". 2 hours, to basically tell us what we'd told them. Also, that the exhaust mount had gone (which we'd also asked them to look at) but also the cat had come loose internally. New exhaust system? £700. I can fit an after market stainless steel one myself for less than half that.

          Alberto Brandolini:

          The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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          Bassam Abdul Baki
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          FORD - Fix Or Repair Daily

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            Keith Barrow wrote:

            who actually advised me to take it to the dealership as they have an actual tool to sort this as the fault was so common

            So basically, I steal a Ford, cannot open the bonnet, go to the first Ford dealership around the corner, and he opens it for me with a special tool which must probably not be something Ford-official ? Sounds about right.

            ~RaGE();

            I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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            Keith Barrow
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            I'm more worried about a bonnet lock design that basically fails silently and stops be from checking things like fluid levels. If this had happened at winter it would have caused huge problems as the salt-spray means I have to re-fill the washer bottle about once a fortnight. Once a thief has got a car, they are pretty much going to be able to do what they want with it, unless it is the bat-mobile. That thing kicked ass.

            Alberto Brandolini:

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              I'm more worried about a bonnet lock design that basically fails silently and stops be from checking things like fluid levels. If this had happened at winter it would have caused huge problems as the salt-spray means I have to re-fill the washer bottle about once a fortnight. Once a thief has got a car, they are pretty much going to be able to do what they want with it, unless it is the bat-mobile. That thing kicked ass.

              Alberto Brandolini:

              The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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              Corporal Agarn
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              Drive a Chevy. They shut off for the same reasons. Just had my ignition replaced on recall.

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                FORD - Fix Or Repair Daily

                Web - BM - RSS - Math - LinkedIn

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                LOTUS - Loads Of Trouble, Usually Serious

                You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

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                  Drive a Chevy. They shut off for the same reasons. Just had my ignition replaced on recall.

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                  Keith Barrow
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                  I had one - or at least a re-badged Daewoo. Worst car I ever owned, and I owned a car screwed together in Birmingham on the late 70s.

                  Alberto Brandolini:

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    LOTUS - Loads Of Trouble, Usually Serious

                    You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

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                    Given yours and the previous post, ironically this was a truly great car[^].

                    Alberto Brandolini:

                    The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      LOTUS - Loads Of Trouble, Usually Serious

                      You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

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                      FIAT - Fix It Again Tomorrow.

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                        Given yours and the previous post, ironically this was a truly great car[^].

                        Alberto Brandolini:

                        The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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                        There were loads of explanations for what car names really meant: HONDA: Had One Never Did Again BMW: Break My Windows SAAB: Send Another Auto-mobile Back Are the only other ones I can remember (or post in the Lounge at any rate)

                        You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                          There were loads of explanations for what car names really meant: HONDA: Had One Never Did Again BMW: Break My Windows SAAB: Send Another Auto-mobile Back Are the only other ones I can remember (or post in the Lounge at any rate)

                          You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

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                          GM - Government Motors

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                            There were loads of explanations for what car names really meant: HONDA: Had One Never Did Again BMW: Break My Windows SAAB: Send Another Auto-mobile Back Are the only other ones I can remember (or post in the Lounge at any rate)

                            You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

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                            FIAT - Fix It Again Tony BSA - Bastard Stopped Again FORD - First On Race Day

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                            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                              There were loads of explanations for what car names really meant: HONDA: Had One Never Did Again BMW: Break My Windows SAAB: Send Another Auto-mobile Back Are the only other ones I can remember (or post in the Lounge at any rate)

                              You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

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                              OriginalGriff wrote:

                              BMW: Break My Windows

                              FTFY as i never heard of BMW crashing into PCs! :-D

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                              • K Keith Barrow

                                I discovered my Ford Focus has a neat little anti-theft feature that renders the bonnet unable to open if the lockj behind the blue badge is fiddled with . The problem is it also renders my bonnet unable to open if you cross a speed bump too quickly, park on the kerb or look at it in a funny way (seriously - neither me nor the missus have done anything harsh to the car, other than the speed bump thing, even that wasn't bad). I had a quick look, couldn't get it open, researched online and it turns out the best solution on the t'interwebs could provide involved a 12" screwdriver to smash the assembly that keeps the thing locked, or a drill bit that Dirk Diggler would find intimidating. Anyhoo, got some advice off my normal local garage, who actually advised me to take it to the dealership as they have an actual tool to sort this as the fault was so common. So the missus booked the jalopy in, explaining the problem in surprising detail for someone with a social sciences background. I hied me off to in the car on Saturday morning and caught the bus (transport of delight 50% charver free) back into town. About 2 hours later the dealer got back in touch - with a detailed report "The anti-theft bonnet latch mechanism has probably been accidentally triggered and we need to break into the car from underneath, then replace the latch". 2 hours, to basically tell us what we'd told them. Also, that the exhaust mount had gone (which we'd also asked them to look at) but also the cat had come loose internally. New exhaust system? £700. I can fit an after market stainless steel one myself for less than half that.

                                Alberto Brandolini:

                                The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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                                Many, many years ago I went into a small local parts supply centre for an exhaust for my Ford Cortina and was quoted £30. I then saw a sign behind the counter saying "exhausts fitted free" and thought why get my own hands dirty? Me - "Can you fit it for me?" Them - "Of course, that'll be £50" Me - "What about the free fitting?" Them - "If you fit it yourself, we give you a discount!"

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                                • K Keith Barrow

                                  I discovered my Ford Focus has a neat little anti-theft feature that renders the bonnet unable to open if the lockj behind the blue badge is fiddled with . The problem is it also renders my bonnet unable to open if you cross a speed bump too quickly, park on the kerb or look at it in a funny way (seriously - neither me nor the missus have done anything harsh to the car, other than the speed bump thing, even that wasn't bad). I had a quick look, couldn't get it open, researched online and it turns out the best solution on the t'interwebs could provide involved a 12" screwdriver to smash the assembly that keeps the thing locked, or a drill bit that Dirk Diggler would find intimidating. Anyhoo, got some advice off my normal local garage, who actually advised me to take it to the dealership as they have an actual tool to sort this as the fault was so common. So the missus booked the jalopy in, explaining the problem in surprising detail for someone with a social sciences background. I hied me off to in the car on Saturday morning and caught the bus (transport of delight 50% charver free) back into town. About 2 hours later the dealer got back in touch - with a detailed report "The anti-theft bonnet latch mechanism has probably been accidentally triggered and we need to break into the car from underneath, then replace the latch". 2 hours, to basically tell us what we'd told them. Also, that the exhaust mount had gone (which we'd also asked them to look at) but also the cat had come loose internally. New exhaust system? £700. I can fit an after market stainless steel one myself for less than half that.

                                  Alberto Brandolini:

                                  The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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                                  Mike Hankey
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                                  I just bought a 2012 Ford Focus a few months ago and I really love it but my A/C condensate line leaks onto passenger floor and I've taken it back were I bought it and they blow the line out and it works for a while then clogs back up. The drain pan is behind the firewall and the whole dash has to taken out to get to it so the guys at the shop were I bought it don't want to do it the right way and I don't think it's covered under extended warrenty and I can't afford to shell out to have it done so am stuck. When it clogs I take it in and they blow it out, charged me first time 2nd time was free but they are not going to continue this for long.

                                  Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9.

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                                    I just bought a 2012 Ford Focus a few months ago and I really love it but my A/C condensate line leaks onto passenger floor and I've taken it back were I bought it and they blow the line out and it works for a while then clogs back up. The drain pan is behind the firewall and the whole dash has to taken out to get to it so the guys at the shop were I bought it don't want to do it the right way and I don't think it's covered under extended warrenty and I can't afford to shell out to have it done so am stuck. When it clogs I take it in and they blow it out, charged me first time 2nd time was free but they are not going to continue this for long.

                                    Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9.

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                                    Keith Barrow
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                                    They are cracking cars - the chassis is excellent and the gearbox is the best one I've used in a modern car. The main problem are the design "quirks". Mine has windscreen washers that, when the rubber goes, starts to drain out onto the sparks (fixed in later models), causing pinking. The other problem (common to a lot of modern cars) is that you pretty much have to take the whole light assembly out in order to change a simple bulb - meaning that it needs re-aligning, meaning a mechanic.

                                    Alberto Brandolini:

                                    The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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                                      They are cracking cars - the chassis is excellent and the gearbox is the best one I've used in a modern car. The main problem are the design "quirks". Mine has windscreen washers that, when the rubber goes, starts to drain out onto the sparks (fixed in later models), causing pinking. The other problem (common to a lot of modern cars) is that you pretty much have to take the whole light assembly out in order to change a simple bulb - meaning that it needs re-aligning, meaning a mechanic.

                                      Alberto Brandolini:

                                      The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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                                      Mike Hankey
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                                      Yeah it is an awesome car! The reason I bought that model is I rented/drove one for a month when I took my trip out west and loved it. But as you say there are plenty of design quirks, and to get them worked on is expensive and a lot of the work required a mechanic.

                                      Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9.

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                                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                        There were loads of explanations for what car names really meant: HONDA: Had One Never Did Again BMW: Break My Windows SAAB: Send Another Auto-mobile Back Are the only other ones I can remember (or post in the Lounge at any rate)

                                        You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

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                                        OriginalGriff wrote:

                                        Break My Windows

                                        ?

                                        ~RaGE();

                                        I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                          There were loads of explanations for what car names really meant: HONDA: Had One Never Did Again BMW: Break My Windows SAAB: Send Another Auto-mobile Back Are the only other ones I can remember (or post in the Lounge at any rate)

                                          You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

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                                          OriginalGriff wrote:

                                          HONDA: Had One Never Did Again

                                          Hold On, Not Done Accelerating

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