Vent time about Indian Recruiters
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Got a call this morning from an Indian recruiter for a local contract position. (Ironically, I'd actually interviewed at the same company for a full time position several months ago, but this apparently was with a technical customer worked hand-in-hand with them.) I told the recruiter I didn't do embedded Linux. He said that only my Qt and C++ experience mattered. He was clueless so I told him to submit my resume and I'd figure out what the real requirements were in the interview. Twenty minutes later, the recruiter's boss calls--another Indian, though more understandable. He tells me that the client saw my resume and will interview if I guarantee I'll accept the contract if offered. I said, no. His reply; "You misunderstand, we've had people interview, accept and then back out." I replied that it's a contract, which means either side can cancel it at any time and I won't accept anything until I know a lot more about the job. He started arguing with me. I told him I was no longer interested and hung up. He called back and started arguing with me again. I told him to never call me again and hung up. This is not the first time I've had Indian recruiters ask me to make a guarantee. What is that all about? Second, only a handful of eastern US recruiters are as aggressive and none refuse to listen or are as argumentative as Indian recruiters. Then there is another Indian recruiter who called this morning and I honestly didn't understand anything he was saying, so I told him to email me and hung up. He never sent an email. EDIT: Oh. My. God. The recruiter just sent me an email saying we had a misunderstanding and could we go forward? I told him to fuck off. EDIT 2: Just got a call from another Indian recruitment firm for the same position! I asked him about the Embedded Linux requirement--he said it didn't matter. Wonder what the client thinks about that. I asked him what the pay rate was. He then drops the bomb shell that I'd actually be working for the original recruitment company and that he was doing them a favor. EDIT 3: Got an email from yet another recruiter for the same position. Funny thing, though, is that the recruiter used reply which included the email chain with the original requirements list and pay rate limits. On top of all this, the client is actually an Indian technology consulting company. This is absurd.
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Got a call this morning from an Indian recruiter for a local contract position. (Ironically, I'd actually interviewed at the same company for a full time position several months ago, but this apparently was with a technical customer worked hand-in-hand with them.) I told the recruiter I didn't do embedded Linux. He said that only my Qt and C++ experience mattered. He was clueless so I told him to submit my resume and I'd figure out what the real requirements were in the interview. Twenty minutes later, the recruiter's boss calls--another Indian, though more understandable. He tells me that the client saw my resume and will interview if I guarantee I'll accept the contract if offered. I said, no. His reply; "You misunderstand, we've had people interview, accept and then back out." I replied that it's a contract, which means either side can cancel it at any time and I won't accept anything until I know a lot more about the job. He started arguing with me. I told him I was no longer interested and hung up. He called back and started arguing with me again. I told him to never call me again and hung up. This is not the first time I've had Indian recruiters ask me to make a guarantee. What is that all about? Second, only a handful of eastern US recruiters are as aggressive and none refuse to listen or are as argumentative as Indian recruiters. Then there is another Indian recruiter who called this morning and I honestly didn't understand anything he was saying, so I told him to email me and hung up. He never sent an email. EDIT: Oh. My. God. The recruiter just sent me an email saying we had a misunderstanding and could we go forward? I told him to fuck off. EDIT 2: Just got a call from another Indian recruitment firm for the same position! I asked him about the Embedded Linux requirement--he said it didn't matter. Wonder what the client thinks about that. I asked him what the pay rate was. He then drops the bomb shell that I'd actually be working for the original recruitment company and that he was doing them a favor. EDIT 3: Got an email from yet another recruiter for the same position. Funny thing, though, is that the recruiter used reply which included the email chain with the original requirements list and pay rate limits. On top of all this, the client is actually an Indian technology consulting company. This is absurd.
Joe Woodbury wrote:
if I guarantee I'll accept the contract if offered. I said, no
I don't like to limit my options, so I'd say "yeah, sure". It's just a meaningless verbal agreement and the recruiter is obviously an idiot so I don't care if he thinks my response is in any way binding. Additionally, at the end of the interview, you should know enough about the job to let them know you're not interested -- that should keep them from making an offer. I once had an idiot ask me "are you in or are you out?" -- I said I was "in", and left the "until I decide otherwise" part unsaid. :rolleyes:
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Got a call this morning from an Indian recruiter for a local contract position. (Ironically, I'd actually interviewed at the same company for a full time position several months ago, but this apparently was with a technical customer worked hand-in-hand with them.) I told the recruiter I didn't do embedded Linux. He said that only my Qt and C++ experience mattered. He was clueless so I told him to submit my resume and I'd figure out what the real requirements were in the interview. Twenty minutes later, the recruiter's boss calls--another Indian, though more understandable. He tells me that the client saw my resume and will interview if I guarantee I'll accept the contract if offered. I said, no. His reply; "You misunderstand, we've had people interview, accept and then back out." I replied that it's a contract, which means either side can cancel it at any time and I won't accept anything until I know a lot more about the job. He started arguing with me. I told him I was no longer interested and hung up. He called back and started arguing with me again. I told him to never call me again and hung up. This is not the first time I've had Indian recruiters ask me to make a guarantee. What is that all about? Second, only a handful of eastern US recruiters are as aggressive and none refuse to listen or are as argumentative as Indian recruiters. Then there is another Indian recruiter who called this morning and I honestly didn't understand anything he was saying, so I told him to email me and hung up. He never sent an email. EDIT: Oh. My. God. The recruiter just sent me an email saying we had a misunderstanding and could we go forward? I told him to fuck off. EDIT 2: Just got a call from another Indian recruitment firm for the same position! I asked him about the Embedded Linux requirement--he said it didn't matter. Wonder what the client thinks about that. I asked him what the pay rate was. He then drops the bomb shell that I'd actually be working for the original recruitment company and that he was doing them a favor. EDIT 3: Got an email from yet another recruiter for the same position. Funny thing, though, is that the recruiter used reply which included the email chain with the original requirements list and pay rate limits. On top of all this, the client is actually an Indian technology consulting company. This is absurd.
I've had some calls sorta like that but not nearly as bad. I think you handled it admirably.
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Got a call this morning from an Indian recruiter for a local contract position. (Ironically, I'd actually interviewed at the same company for a full time position several months ago, but this apparently was with a technical customer worked hand-in-hand with them.) I told the recruiter I didn't do embedded Linux. He said that only my Qt and C++ experience mattered. He was clueless so I told him to submit my resume and I'd figure out what the real requirements were in the interview. Twenty minutes later, the recruiter's boss calls--another Indian, though more understandable. He tells me that the client saw my resume and will interview if I guarantee I'll accept the contract if offered. I said, no. His reply; "You misunderstand, we've had people interview, accept and then back out." I replied that it's a contract, which means either side can cancel it at any time and I won't accept anything until I know a lot more about the job. He started arguing with me. I told him I was no longer interested and hung up. He called back and started arguing with me again. I told him to never call me again and hung up. This is not the first time I've had Indian recruiters ask me to make a guarantee. What is that all about? Second, only a handful of eastern US recruiters are as aggressive and none refuse to listen or are as argumentative as Indian recruiters. Then there is another Indian recruiter who called this morning and I honestly didn't understand anything he was saying, so I told him to email me and hung up. He never sent an email. EDIT: Oh. My. God. The recruiter just sent me an email saying we had a misunderstanding and could we go forward? I told him to fuck off. EDIT 2: Just got a call from another Indian recruitment firm for the same position! I asked him about the Embedded Linux requirement--he said it didn't matter. Wonder what the client thinks about that. I asked him what the pay rate was. He then drops the bomb shell that I'd actually be working for the original recruitment company and that he was doing them a favor. EDIT 3: Got an email from yet another recruiter for the same position. Funny thing, though, is that the recruiter used reply which included the email chain with the original requirements list and pay rate limits. On top of all this, the client is actually an Indian technology consulting company. This is absurd.
Joe Woodbury wrote:
and will interview if I guarantee I'll accept the contract if offered
That actually happens? Bit scary, really... That's like agreeing to buy a house before you can look inside. Seems like it'd be the height of stupidity, to make that kind of promise. Well handled, Joe.
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Got a call this morning from an Indian recruiter for a local contract position. (Ironically, I'd actually interviewed at the same company for a full time position several months ago, but this apparently was with a technical customer worked hand-in-hand with them.) I told the recruiter I didn't do embedded Linux. He said that only my Qt and C++ experience mattered. He was clueless so I told him to submit my resume and I'd figure out what the real requirements were in the interview. Twenty minutes later, the recruiter's boss calls--another Indian, though more understandable. He tells me that the client saw my resume and will interview if I guarantee I'll accept the contract if offered. I said, no. His reply; "You misunderstand, we've had people interview, accept and then back out." I replied that it's a contract, which means either side can cancel it at any time and I won't accept anything until I know a lot more about the job. He started arguing with me. I told him I was no longer interested and hung up. He called back and started arguing with me again. I told him to never call me again and hung up. This is not the first time I've had Indian recruiters ask me to make a guarantee. What is that all about? Second, only a handful of eastern US recruiters are as aggressive and none refuse to listen or are as argumentative as Indian recruiters. Then there is another Indian recruiter who called this morning and I honestly didn't understand anything he was saying, so I told him to email me and hung up. He never sent an email. EDIT: Oh. My. God. The recruiter just sent me an email saying we had a misunderstanding and could we go forward? I told him to fuck off. EDIT 2: Just got a call from another Indian recruitment firm for the same position! I asked him about the Embedded Linux requirement--he said it didn't matter. Wonder what the client thinks about that. I asked him what the pay rate was. He then drops the bomb shell that I'd actually be working for the original recruitment company and that he was doing them a favor. EDIT 3: Got an email from yet another recruiter for the same position. Funny thing, though, is that the recruiter used reply which included the email chain with the original requirements list and pay rate limits. On top of all this, the client is actually an Indian technology consulting company. This is absurd.
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Got a call this morning from an Indian recruiter for a local contract position. (Ironically, I'd actually interviewed at the same company for a full time position several months ago, but this apparently was with a technical customer worked hand-in-hand with them.) I told the recruiter I didn't do embedded Linux. He said that only my Qt and C++ experience mattered. He was clueless so I told him to submit my resume and I'd figure out what the real requirements were in the interview. Twenty minutes later, the recruiter's boss calls--another Indian, though more understandable. He tells me that the client saw my resume and will interview if I guarantee I'll accept the contract if offered. I said, no. His reply; "You misunderstand, we've had people interview, accept and then back out." I replied that it's a contract, which means either side can cancel it at any time and I won't accept anything until I know a lot more about the job. He started arguing with me. I told him I was no longer interested and hung up. He called back and started arguing with me again. I told him to never call me again and hung up. This is not the first time I've had Indian recruiters ask me to make a guarantee. What is that all about? Second, only a handful of eastern US recruiters are as aggressive and none refuse to listen or are as argumentative as Indian recruiters. Then there is another Indian recruiter who called this morning and I honestly didn't understand anything he was saying, so I told him to email me and hung up. He never sent an email. EDIT: Oh. My. God. The recruiter just sent me an email saying we had a misunderstanding and could we go forward? I told him to fuck off. EDIT 2: Just got a call from another Indian recruitment firm for the same position! I asked him about the Embedded Linux requirement--he said it didn't matter. Wonder what the client thinks about that. I asked him what the pay rate was. He then drops the bomb shell that I'd actually be working for the original recruitment company and that he was doing them a favor. EDIT 3: Got an email from yet another recruiter for the same position. Funny thing, though, is that the recruiter used reply which included the email chain with the original requirements list and pay rate limits. On top of all this, the client is actually an Indian technology consulting company. This is absurd.
I would have said yes then if after the interview I didn't like the offer would have asked him, Ok then I can start Monday where can I hang my gun rack? :) Just kidding, I'd have told then to fuck off also. Hate dealing with idiots which it sounds like he is/was.
Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9.
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Got a call this morning from an Indian recruiter for a local contract position. (Ironically, I'd actually interviewed at the same company for a full time position several months ago, but this apparently was with a technical customer worked hand-in-hand with them.) I told the recruiter I didn't do embedded Linux. He said that only my Qt and C++ experience mattered. He was clueless so I told him to submit my resume and I'd figure out what the real requirements were in the interview. Twenty minutes later, the recruiter's boss calls--another Indian, though more understandable. He tells me that the client saw my resume and will interview if I guarantee I'll accept the contract if offered. I said, no. His reply; "You misunderstand, we've had people interview, accept and then back out." I replied that it's a contract, which means either side can cancel it at any time and I won't accept anything until I know a lot more about the job. He started arguing with me. I told him I was no longer interested and hung up. He called back and started arguing with me again. I told him to never call me again and hung up. This is not the first time I've had Indian recruiters ask me to make a guarantee. What is that all about? Second, only a handful of eastern US recruiters are as aggressive and none refuse to listen or are as argumentative as Indian recruiters. Then there is another Indian recruiter who called this morning and I honestly didn't understand anything he was saying, so I told him to email me and hung up. He never sent an email. EDIT: Oh. My. God. The recruiter just sent me an email saying we had a misunderstanding and could we go forward? I told him to fuck off. EDIT 2: Just got a call from another Indian recruitment firm for the same position! I asked him about the Embedded Linux requirement--he said it didn't matter. Wonder what the client thinks about that. I asked him what the pay rate was. He then drops the bomb shell that I'd actually be working for the original recruitment company and that he was doing them a favor. EDIT 3: Got an email from yet another recruiter for the same position. Funny thing, though, is that the recruiter used reply which included the email chain with the original requirements list and pay rate limits. On top of all this, the client is actually an Indian technology consulting company. This is absurd.
I've been in a position a number of times where I was offered a role at the end of an interview. I always say yes unless I really had no desire to work there on the basis that I can change my mind later. Expecting any sort of sense, honesty or fairness out of a recruiter is like exposing your neck to a vampire and expecting him not to bite.
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Got a call this morning from an Indian recruiter for a local contract position. (Ironically, I'd actually interviewed at the same company for a full time position several months ago, but this apparently was with a technical customer worked hand-in-hand with them.) I told the recruiter I didn't do embedded Linux. He said that only my Qt and C++ experience mattered. He was clueless so I told him to submit my resume and I'd figure out what the real requirements were in the interview. Twenty minutes later, the recruiter's boss calls--another Indian, though more understandable. He tells me that the client saw my resume and will interview if I guarantee I'll accept the contract if offered. I said, no. His reply; "You misunderstand, we've had people interview, accept and then back out." I replied that it's a contract, which means either side can cancel it at any time and I won't accept anything until I know a lot more about the job. He started arguing with me. I told him I was no longer interested and hung up. He called back and started arguing with me again. I told him to never call me again and hung up. This is not the first time I've had Indian recruiters ask me to make a guarantee. What is that all about? Second, only a handful of eastern US recruiters are as aggressive and none refuse to listen or are as argumentative as Indian recruiters. Then there is another Indian recruiter who called this morning and I honestly didn't understand anything he was saying, so I told him to email me and hung up. He never sent an email. EDIT: Oh. My. God. The recruiter just sent me an email saying we had a misunderstanding and could we go forward? I told him to fuck off. EDIT 2: Just got a call from another Indian recruitment firm for the same position! I asked him about the Embedded Linux requirement--he said it didn't matter. Wonder what the client thinks about that. I asked him what the pay rate was. He then drops the bomb shell that I'd actually be working for the original recruitment company and that he was doing them a favor. EDIT 3: Got an email from yet another recruiter for the same position. Funny thing, though, is that the recruiter used reply which included the email chain with the original requirements list and pay rate limits. On top of all this, the client is actually an Indian technology consulting company. This is absurd.
Hi Joe, its great you're here online I've been wanting to have a yarn with you. Look I know this bloke and hes looking for a contract coder - a bit of C++ and some QT, maybe a bit of linux but i'm told it doesn't really matter... Could you have a yarn with him, maybe a bit of an interview and all that? Perfect role for you dude Bryce p.s. oh Hes got a bit of an subcontinent type accent
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