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  • S StatementTerminator

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/making-sense/save-economy-teach-grandma-code/[^] I'm not sure where to even start with this. Where did this idea come from that learning to write a hello world program will teach you how to be an entrepreneur, let alone a programmer? Even tech entrepreneurs don't need to know anything about programming, they hire programmers for that, and they probably aren't going to be hiring grandma. But somehow if we just get everyone to write apps we'll save the economy. I'd hate to be the poor bastard who has to try to show grandma how to use Eclipse. This quote is fun: "Writing computer code isn’t very hard. Anyone can learn" Yeah. Anyone can learn to splint a fracture too, but that doesn't make them an orthopedist.

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    Mike Hankey
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    Most older people I know barely know how to turn a computer on and the last thing they want to do is learn how to program. If they wanted to learn they would have started a hell of a lot earlier in life.

    Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9.

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    • S StatementTerminator

      http://www.pbs.org/newshour/making-sense/save-economy-teach-grandma-code/[^] I'm not sure where to even start with this. Where did this idea come from that learning to write a hello world program will teach you how to be an entrepreneur, let alone a programmer? Even tech entrepreneurs don't need to know anything about programming, they hire programmers for that, and they probably aren't going to be hiring grandma. But somehow if we just get everyone to write apps we'll save the economy. I'd hate to be the poor bastard who has to try to show grandma how to use Eclipse. This quote is fun: "Writing computer code isn’t very hard. Anyone can learn" Yeah. Anyone can learn to splint a fracture too, but that doesn't make them an orthopedist.

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      "Learning" isn't enough. I have a lot of knowledge that I am just no good at putting into practice (chess, tennis, swimming).

      StatementTerminator wrote:

      save the economy

      Right, that's not going to happen. Let's consider that one million of us teach our one million grannies to code and we each produce a great new app -- and sell it for a dollar each, to each of the others. We each spend a million dollars and we each earn a million dollars -- we're all still exactly even. But the guv'mint takes twenty percent (for example). We pay granny half the net -- and the guv'mint takes twenty percent of that. When granny dies, she leaves us what's left -- and the guv'mint takes twenty percent yet again.

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        "Learning" isn't enough. I have a lot of knowledge that I am just no good at putting into practice (chess, tennis, swimming).

        StatementTerminator wrote:

        save the economy

        Right, that's not going to happen. Let's consider that one million of us teach our one million grannies to code and we each produce a great new app -- and sell it for a dollar each, to each of the others. We each spend a million dollars and we each earn a million dollars -- we're all still exactly even. But the guv'mint takes twenty percent (for example). We pay granny half the net -- and the guv'mint takes twenty percent of that. When granny dies, she leaves us what's left -- and the guv'mint takes twenty percent yet again.

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        PIEBALDconsult wrote:

        But the guv'mint takes twenty percent

        And the title was SAVE THE ECONOMY, not save the peoples, you seem to be under the impression the economy is somehow related to people. :laugh:

        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

          But the guv'mint takes twenty percent

          And the title was SAVE THE ECONOMY, not save the peoples, you seem to be under the impression the economy is somehow related to people. :laugh:

          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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          PIEBALDconsult
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          I was going to add something like "so unless 'save the economy' means 'pay off the national debt...' ".

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          • S StatementTerminator

            http://www.pbs.org/newshour/making-sense/save-economy-teach-grandma-code/[^] I'm not sure where to even start with this. Where did this idea come from that learning to write a hello world program will teach you how to be an entrepreneur, let alone a programmer? Even tech entrepreneurs don't need to know anything about programming, they hire programmers for that, and they probably aren't going to be hiring grandma. But somehow if we just get everyone to write apps we'll save the economy. I'd hate to be the poor bastard who has to try to show grandma how to use Eclipse. This quote is fun: "Writing computer code isn’t very hard. Anyone can learn" Yeah. Anyone can learn to splint a fracture too, but that doesn't make them an orthopedist.

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            I was planning on teaching Grandma open heart surgery over the weekend but I guess this could work too

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            • S StatementTerminator

              http://www.pbs.org/newshour/making-sense/save-economy-teach-grandma-code/[^] I'm not sure where to even start with this. Where did this idea come from that learning to write a hello world program will teach you how to be an entrepreneur, let alone a programmer? Even tech entrepreneurs don't need to know anything about programming, they hire programmers for that, and they probably aren't going to be hiring grandma. But somehow if we just get everyone to write apps we'll save the economy. I'd hate to be the poor bastard who has to try to show grandma how to use Eclipse. This quote is fun: "Writing computer code isn’t very hard. Anyone can learn" Yeah. Anyone can learn to splint a fracture too, but that doesn't make them an orthopedist.

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              "and many can excel" Yes we know many can excell, older people can barely excell :-D

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              • S StatementTerminator

                http://www.pbs.org/newshour/making-sense/save-economy-teach-grandma-code/[^] I'm not sure where to even start with this. Where did this idea come from that learning to write a hello world program will teach you how to be an entrepreneur, let alone a programmer? Even tech entrepreneurs don't need to know anything about programming, they hire programmers for that, and they probably aren't going to be hiring grandma. But somehow if we just get everyone to write apps we'll save the economy. I'd hate to be the poor bastard who has to try to show grandma how to use Eclipse. This quote is fun: "Writing computer code isn’t very hard. Anyone can learn" Yeah. Anyone can learn to splint a fracture too, but that doesn't make them an orthopedist.

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                OriginalGriff
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                And there is another problem: which Granny? Most people start with two... And both of mine are no longer with us, so they are gonna be really hard to teach. ;)

                You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  And there is another problem: which Granny? Most people start with two... And both of mine are no longer with us, so they are gonna be really hard to teach. ;)

                  You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

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                  OriginalGriff wrote:

                  Most people start with two...

                  Not anymore, they tend to have at least three. I have one (remaining), she threw away her first mobile phone after the battery ran out.

                  Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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                    OriginalGriff wrote:

                    Most people start with two...

                    Not anymore, they tend to have at least three. I have one (remaining), she threw away her first mobile phone after the battery ran out.

                    Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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                    OriginalGriff
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                    Three grandmothers? :omg: How many chromosomes are normal in your neck of the woods?

                    You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      Three grandmothers? :omg: How many chromosomes are normal in your neck of the woods?

                      You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

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                      My daughter has three grandfathers, my brother's kids have three grandfathers and three grandmothers. OK, one of each should have step- in front of them, but as far as the kids are concerned they are the real thing. For my part I had one grandfather, the other buggered off in 1960 and I've only heard him mentioned a couple of times my whole life.

                      Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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                        My daughter has three grandfathers, my brother's kids have three grandfathers and three grandmothers. OK, one of each should have step- in front of them, but as far as the kids are concerned they are the real thing. For my part I had one grandfather, the other buggered off in 1960 and I've only heard him mentioned a couple of times my whole life.

                        Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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                        OriginalGriff
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                        Ah! "Step-" makes a big difference: I was assuming you were from Norfolk, or worse - Luton...

                        You looking for sympathy? You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric (Page 1788, if it helps)

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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