Do you include easter eggs in your résumé?
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I don't, my full CV is like 4 pages. But I don't usually use it when it comes to send it somewhere. Why? My experience is in three big and very different areas: Automation, Robotics and High-Level programming If I send it as it is, most of the companies would get scared or think I am over-qualified. Conclusion: I adapt it and take all easter eggs away, if they are not relevant for the future reader.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
Mine is 13 pages. As ridiculous as that sounds, I get a very high interview rate and usually before I show up they know if they want me or not. I did it that way because I have been a hiring manager for many positions and you have so little to go on from a 1 page resume and cover letter. With mine, what they see is what they get. I use a skills grid to indicate my level of knowledge for various technologies using this key: Basic knowledge: I have researched this topic; or I haven’t used this technology, but I’d like an opportunity to; or I have used this for less than 6 months; or I could discuss it at a cocktail party. Applied knowledge: I have used this in one or more projects; or I have used this for less than 2 years. Advanced knowledge: I use this regularly in projects; or I have been using this for 2–5 years; or with some preparation, I would feel comfortable speaking about this topic to a general audience. Expert knowledge: This is a core technology in my projects; or I have been using this for 5+ years; or I have written or spoken to this topic; or with some preparation, I would feel comfortable speaking about this to an audience of my peers. For example, I have expert knowledge of C# and basic knowledge of Objective-C. People appreciate the no-BS approach.
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Mine includes expert-level knowledge of IPoAC. Sadly no one has asked about it yet :(
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Mine is 13 pages. As ridiculous as that sounds, I get a very high interview rate and usually before I show up they know if they want me or not. I did it that way because I have been a hiring manager for many positions and you have so little to go on from a 1 page resume and cover letter. With mine, what they see is what they get. I use a skills grid to indicate my level of knowledge for various technologies using this key: Basic knowledge: I have researched this topic; or I haven’t used this technology, but I’d like an opportunity to; or I have used this for less than 6 months; or I could discuss it at a cocktail party. Applied knowledge: I have used this in one or more projects; or I have used this for less than 2 years. Advanced knowledge: I use this regularly in projects; or I have been using this for 2–5 years; or with some preparation, I would feel comfortable speaking about this topic to a general audience. Expert knowledge: This is a core technology in my projects; or I have been using this for 5+ years; or I have written or spoken to this topic; or with some preparation, I would feel comfortable speaking about this to an audience of my peers. For example, I have expert knowledge of C# and basic knowledge of Objective-C. People appreciate the no-BS approach.
Yvan Rodrigues wrote:
I use a skills grid to indicate my level of knowledge for various technologies using this key:
I do it as well. But what I mean is: If due to laboral experience, you are having more pages, then it is ok. Example: 2 years as hardware developer, then 3 years as IT-Manager, 5 years more as automation programmer... and you are now sending your resume to a technical lead manager in a company making engines... well that's where you worked to, so you should not hidden anything. But, in germany, not "desired / matching" information can be as bad as no information at all. I mean, if the offer is for a robot programmer, saying that you are good with python or SQL has nothing to do with the job and can play against you. Anther thing is that you get asked about your skills in the interview. Then I would explain about the "extra" knowledge as well. Should they ask "why didn't you put it in your CV?" My answer would be "I just wanted to focus in the most important skills for this job" At least that was my experience when I was looking for a new job 6 years ago. But, as everything in this life, it might have evolved and be not accurated anymore.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Mine includes expert-level knowledge of IPoAC. Sadly no one has asked about it yet :(
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Mine includes expert-level knowledge of IPoAC. Sadly no one has asked about it yet :(
What's an easter egg like in a resume? Not the picture of the MS Excel team by chance?
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Mine includes expert-level knowledge of IPoAC. Sadly no one has asked about it yet :(
What sort of easter egg do you have in mind? And what is IPoAC? Does it have to do with birds?[^] My "easter eggs" are 167 articles on CP, #1 author by article count, and 2 e-books (one pending, where is it anyways!!!) And I'm still asked moronic interview questions (like, "what's your greatest weakness and what are you doing about it" to which, then next time I'm asked that, the answer will be "going through this interview and to fix that I'm hanging up on you -- CLICK) and requested to take idiotic tests in C#, .NET and SQL Server knowledge. Some of those questions are absurd. The whole interview process so sucks nowadays. The people doing the interview don't even bother researching who the person is on the resume. Marc
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What sort of easter egg do you have in mind? And what is IPoAC? Does it have to do with birds?[^] My "easter eggs" are 167 articles on CP, #1 author by article count, and 2 e-books (one pending, where is it anyways!!!) And I'm still asked moronic interview questions (like, "what's your greatest weakness and what are you doing about it" to which, then next time I'm asked that, the answer will be "going through this interview and to fix that I'm hanging up on you -- CLICK) and requested to take idiotic tests in C#, .NET and SQL Server knowledge. Some of those questions are absurd. The whole interview process so sucks nowadays. The people doing the interview don't even bother researching who the person is on the resume. Marc
Automating Semantic Mapping of a Document With Natural Language Processing
Yes, I'm referring to IP over Avian Carrier. I hope that they just think I'm trying to drop jargon, and actually read RFC 2549 or at least find the Wikipedia article. The RFC is a cute read if you don't mind puns. If they ask I can mention that I'm trying to teach the protocol to my finches, but for far have a 100% drop(ping) rate. I agree -- I always do my homework about the company I am interviewing for, and if they are serious about hiring me, I hope they at least google me, which will lead them to my CP articles. And then there are the tests. I don't have a CS degree, and I don't have all of the big O notation optimizations memorized, but I do have 25+ years of experience and will gladly answer anything pragmatic. I do use tests when hiring, but they are easy and are meant to screen out the BSers before they get an interview.
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A résumé just isn't worth the effort. Do the minimum and be done with it.
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
A résumé just isn't worth the effort.
Aw, they're great to make a pre-selection. Correct address? If no, into the bucket it goes. Comic Sans? -> into the bucket More than four pages? -> into the bucket More than four colors? -> into the bucket And yes, if you have to work through a hundred of them, you'd be rewarding the minimalistic style most.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Mine includes expert-level knowledge of IPoAC. Sadly no one has asked about it yet :(
:wtf: That's because you didn't specify you have experience in: IPoAVwQS ~ where "wQS" is with Quality of Service :doh:
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Mine is 13 pages. As ridiculous as that sounds, I get a very high interview rate and usually before I show up they know if they want me or not. I did it that way because I have been a hiring manager for many positions and you have so little to go on from a 1 page resume and cover letter. With mine, what they see is what they get. I use a skills grid to indicate my level of knowledge for various technologies using this key: Basic knowledge: I have researched this topic; or I haven’t used this technology, but I’d like an opportunity to; or I have used this for less than 6 months; or I could discuss it at a cocktail party. Applied knowledge: I have used this in one or more projects; or I have used this for less than 2 years. Advanced knowledge: I use this regularly in projects; or I have been using this for 2–5 years; or with some preparation, I would feel comfortable speaking about this topic to a general audience. Expert knowledge: This is a core technology in my projects; or I have been using this for 5+ years; or I have written or spoken to this topic; or with some preparation, I would feel comfortable speaking about this to an audience of my peers. For example, I have expert knowledge of C# and basic knowledge of Objective-C. People appreciate the no-BS approach.
Good Lord. A 13 page resume is the opposite of a "no-BS approach"
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I don't, my full CV is like 4 pages. But I don't usually use it when it comes to send it somewhere. Why? My experience is in three big and very different areas: Automation, Robotics and High-Level programming If I send it as it is, most of the companies would get scared or think I am over-qualified. Conclusion: I adapt it and take all easter eggs away, if they are not relevant for the future reader.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
I've had to clear half the content off my CV because few companies took me seriously. I've been coding most of my life (started age 8) and started teaching at age 13. Explaining everything that happened before I started coding commercially takes longer than proving that I can do the job I'm applying for.
My plan is to live forever ... so far so good
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Mine includes expert-level knowledge of IPoAC. Sadly no one has asked about it yet :(
I must admit that I never heard of IPoAC before and had to go look for it, but I think it's hilarious, yet makes you think. :thumbsup:
My plan is to live forever ... so far so good
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I must admit that I never heard of IPoAC before and had to go look for it, but I think it's hilarious, yet makes you think. :thumbsup:
My plan is to live forever ... so far so good
I have an Easter Egg on my Linked-in profile. It's an encrypted message(string of apparent garbage). Nobody has told me they cracked it yet, but I have been approached by certain people of a Cheltenham disposition trying to offer me a job. As I would hate going through the DV process I turned them down. Besides, they are far too naughty.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvGHIW3GQv8[^] As for interviews, when I was doing them I took a netbook running Linux with a selection of Mono C# demo projects including face-detection and capture and simple encryption. It seemed to help with serious players. :-D
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
A résumé just isn't worth the effort.
Aw, they're great to make a pre-selection. Correct address? If no, into the bucket it goes. Comic Sans? -> into the bucket More than four pages? -> into the bucket More than four colors? -> into the bucket And yes, if you have to work through a hundred of them, you'd be rewarding the minimalistic style most.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
That is exactly what I was describing above. Good "resume" ;P
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Mine includes expert-level knowledge of IPoAC. Sadly no one has asked about it yet :(
That only gets a response if you apply for jobs in Europe or Africa.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mine includes expert-level knowledge of IPoAC. Sadly no one has asked about it yet :(
I don't have a resume or a CV and I don't think that I ever had one. Guess this comes from working for the same company for so long. Easter eggs is something that I have always done though. Everything that I have written has Easter eggs within. Always have done and always will do. Oh and by the way wtf is IPoAC? Oh yeah and if I get retrenched, sacked or something I might need your help with a resume/CV with Easter eggs.
"Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980
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I've had to clear half the content off my CV because few companies took me seriously. I've been coding most of my life (started age 8) and started teaching at age 13. Explaining everything that happened before I started coding commercially takes longer than proving that I can do the job I'm applying for.
My plan is to live forever ... so far so good
And we have a winner. The point of the Resume is to show what IMPACT you have had using your core skills. Not iterate through every nuance. I started in High School, getting paid to write software. I don't include that. TRS-DOS? GW-BASIC/BASCIA who cares nowadays. Your cover letter should tie your interest to their position, and introduce you, giving them a reason to read your resume. Having read thousands of resumes, I have NEVER appreciated a resume more than 3 pages, and prefer a 1 page resume. If you cannot SUMMARIZE, move on. Of course, my goals at interviewing are to make you cry, or wish you were working with us :-) [with the same set of questions]
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I don't have a resume or a CV and I don't think that I ever had one. Guess this comes from working for the same company for so long. Easter eggs is something that I have always done though. Everything that I have written has Easter eggs within. Always have done and always will do. Oh and by the way wtf is IPoAC? Oh yeah and if I get retrenched, sacked or something I might need your help with a resume/CV with Easter eggs.
"Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980
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I must admit that I never heard of IPoAC before and had to go look for it, but I think it's hilarious, yet makes you think. :thumbsup:
My plan is to live forever ... so far so good
It is funny, and the beauty is that due to the design of OPI layers, the air (layer 1) and birds (layer 2) are technically as valid as any other protocol, albeit with a very high error rate. RFC 2549[^] updates the protocol with a QoS component. As a layer 2 protocol it does not require any changes for IPv6.
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Mine includes expert-level knowledge of IPoAC. Sadly no one has asked about it yet :(
I've seriously considered putting something like the resumes I have posted at job boards: "Please include the word "asparagus"* in the subject line to show that you've actually read my resume. If you do that, I guarantee a reply." Then if I get an unsolicited email about a job and it doesn't contain the word "asparagus" in the subject I know it's probably not worth reading.