Has anyone used Gigabit cabling
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I'm just curious if anyone has used any of the Gigabit adapters in their networks. Does this thing actually work. Intel Gigabit Adapter[^] Pics[^] Anyone have any experience with this?
Any more than 100MB/s makes my 802.11b laptop connection look more like a 56k. My new motherboard came with built in Gigabit ethernet, but of course, you have to fork out £100+ for a hub/switch. I don't know what u mean by 'Gigabit Cabling', they use Cat-5 cables like 100MB/s networks. Or do you mean just a 1000mb/s network. Also, can someone ell me the difference between Cat-5 and Cat-6 cables (Feline jokes aside)
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I'm just curious if anyone has used any of the Gigabit adapters in their networks. Does this thing actually work. Intel Gigabit Adapter[^] Pics[^] Anyone have any experience with this?
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Any more than 100MB/s makes my 802.11b laptop connection look more like a 56k. My new motherboard came with built in Gigabit ethernet, but of course, you have to fork out £100+ for a hub/switch. I don't know what u mean by 'Gigabit Cabling', they use Cat-5 cables like 100MB/s networks. Or do you mean just a 1000mb/s network. Also, can someone ell me the difference between Cat-5 and Cat-6 cables (Feline jokes aside)
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- Marc Clifton, Lounge 4 Mar '03
"But a fresh install - it's like having clean sheets"
- Chris Maunder Lounge 3 Mar '03
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman
Web Designer, Programmer, Lover, Visionary Leader... Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]Jonny Newman wrote: they use Cat-5 cables like 100MB/s networks Nope, you have to use cat-6 to run gigabit ethernet. Jonny Newman wrote: Also, can someone ell me the difference between Cat-5 and Cat-6 cables The quality of the wires. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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I'm just curious if anyone has used any of the Gigabit adapters in their networks. Does this thing actually work. Intel Gigabit Adapter[^] Pics[^] Anyone have any experience with this?
Not yet, but I'm helping someone setting up an Internet Cafe with 100 playing computers. I'm gonna use gigabit network to the fileserver, and as backbone between the 3 switches :D - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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Any more than 100MB/s makes my 802.11b laptop connection look more like a 56k. My new motherboard came with built in Gigabit ethernet, but of course, you have to fork out £100+ for a hub/switch. I don't know what u mean by 'Gigabit Cabling', they use Cat-5 cables like 100MB/s networks. Or do you mean just a 1000mb/s network. Also, can someone ell me the difference between Cat-5 and Cat-6 cables (Feline jokes aside)
"How long has the "Quote Selected Text" been around???"
- Marc Clifton, Lounge 4 Mar '03
"But a fresh install - it's like having clean sheets"
- Chris Maunder Lounge 3 Mar '03
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman
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Not yet, but I'm helping someone setting up an Internet Cafe with 100 playing computers. I'm gonna use gigabit network to the fileserver, and as backbone between the 3 switches :D - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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So is this based off of a good business model or is it just for fun. Don't you have to charge quite a bit for coffee and snacks to make up for all the overhead? I don't live in a big city where this might be feasible, so forgive my ignorance
Think about things logically (not that you arent already). What are you trying to accomplish? We use a t1 uplink to the net, with a gig backbone across 15 idf's http://wombat.doc.ic.ac.uk/foldoc/foldoc.cgi?query=idf[^] with 100 meg to the desktop. In our scenerio the majority of traffic is intra-network based. File sharing etc. So, the gig helps with overhead. No matter how you slice it, our t1 is routed to our network via a 10 meg link to a 100 meg switch, so the most we will get on the internet is 10 meg. Even if the requests fly there. :) If your goal is to fly with file sharing and LAN stuff, go with the gig. If you just need a link to the internet, a 100 meg switch that auto senses 10 meg connections will not slow you down any. Cheers, Frank "Keyboard Error - Press F1 to Continue"
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Jonny Newman wrote: they use Cat-5 cables like 100MB/s networks Nope, you have to use cat-6 to run gigabit ethernet. Jonny Newman wrote: Also, can someone ell me the difference between Cat-5 and Cat-6 cables The quality of the wires. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
Anders Molin wrote: Nope, you have to use cat-6 to run gigabit ethernet. I've been using CAT5e cables over Gig ethernet for about a year now. Confused. :wtf: Copper Gig cards are getting cheaper by the day. Cheers, Frank "Keyboard Error - Press F1 to Continue"
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Anders Molin wrote: Nope, you have to use cat-6 to run gigabit ethernet. I've been using CAT5e cables over Gig ethernet for about a year now. Confused. :wtf: Copper Gig cards are getting cheaper by the day. Cheers, Frank "Keyboard Error - Press F1 to Continue"
I might be wrong then :-O It's just that everywhere I have read about gigabit cabling they say cat-6. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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So is this based off of a good business model or is it just for fun. Don't you have to charge quite a bit for coffee and snacks to make up for all the overhead? I don't live in a big city where this might be feasible, so forgive my ignorance
zenboy wrote: So is this based off of a good business model or is it just for fun. The guys that start it up, and pay for it, want to make maney on it. They have businessplans and all that stuff. Me and a friend just help them in our spare time, with the things they don't know anything about. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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I might be wrong then :-O It's just that everywhere I have read about gigabit cabling they say cat-6. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
Anders Molin wrote: I might be wrong then Your not wrong. :) Cat 6 is optimized for hardware requiring Cat 6 over Gig Networks. There are plenty of solutions, many cheaper that can use Cat5e for Gig. The only difference between the two is the shielding between the TX/RX pairs (or quads in this case). Cheers, Frank "Keyboard Error - Press F1 to Continue"
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Think about things logically (not that you arent already). What are you trying to accomplish? We use a t1 uplink to the net, with a gig backbone across 15 idf's http://wombat.doc.ic.ac.uk/foldoc/foldoc.cgi?query=idf[^] with 100 meg to the desktop. In our scenerio the majority of traffic is intra-network based. File sharing etc. So, the gig helps with overhead. No matter how you slice it, our t1 is routed to our network via a 10 meg link to a 100 meg switch, so the most we will get on the internet is 10 meg. Even if the requests fly there. :) If your goal is to fly with file sharing and LAN stuff, go with the gig. If you just need a link to the internet, a 100 meg switch that auto senses 10 meg connections will not slow you down any. Cheers, Frank "Keyboard Error - Press F1 to Continue"
I guess your reply was ment for me? I use 100mbit to all the desktops, gigabit backbone between the 3 switches (2 x 48 port and 1 x 24 port). Then we get a gigabit link to the fileserver. 100mbit to the firewall, and 100 or 10 mbit to a loadbalancing-box which connects to 4 2048/512 ADSL lines. We do get a lot of trafic on the fileserver, thets why we get the gigabit link to it, bacause all the workstations (gamestations ;) ) is going to save settings and peoples saved games on the fileserver. That might not be that much data, but all the workstations is going to save/load stuff at the same time, every hour on the hour, because people rents a machine for x whole hours. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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I guess your reply was ment for me? I use 100mbit to all the desktops, gigabit backbone between the 3 switches (2 x 48 port and 1 x 24 port). Then we get a gigabit link to the fileserver. 100mbit to the firewall, and 100 or 10 mbit to a loadbalancing-box which connects to 4 2048/512 ADSL lines. We do get a lot of trafic on the fileserver, thets why we get the gigabit link to it, bacause all the workstations (gamestations ;) ) is going to save settings and peoples saved games on the fileserver. That might not be that much data, but all the workstations is going to save/load stuff at the same time, every hour on the hour, because people rents a machine for x whole hours. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
Anders Molin wrote: I guess your reply was ment for me? Nah. :) I was trying to give zenboy a real-life example of why one would use gigabit over 100 megabit. Anders Molin wrote: I use 100mbit to all the desktops, gigabit backbone between the 3 switches (2 x 48 port and 1 x 24 port)......etc.....(removed for brevity) Another great example of when to use Gb of Mb. :) Cheers, Frank "Keyboard Error - Press F1 to Continue"
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According to Firewall.cx[^] It is similar to CAT5 wire, but contains a physical separator between the 4 pairs to further reduce electromagnetic interference.
That was a HUGE post! :laugh:
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That was a HUGE post! :laugh:
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Anders Molin wrote: I guess your reply was ment for me? Nah. :) I was trying to give zenboy a real-life example of why one would use gigabit over 100 megabit. Anders Molin wrote: I use 100mbit to all the desktops, gigabit backbone between the 3 switches (2 x 48 port and 1 x 24 port)......etc.....(removed for brevity) Another great example of when to use Gb of Mb. :) Cheers, Frank "Keyboard Error - Press F1 to Continue"
Actually I have some freaky obsession with hardware. I've got a 3 Gig chip with 2 Gig of Ram now. I have 8 "high-end" machines at my place. I have the luxury of getting hardware cheaper than cost, so I have way to much hardware here (some of you will hate me saying this.) I like horsepower and speed. Most of which gets wasted, since I use one base machine. But, I like new toys and Gigabit seems interesting, especially when I think of transfering 3 or 4 Gig at a time over the network. So it is a practical application for me. I've got 10Mps on my cable-connection to the internet, and its more than I need. But for a fileserver, I'm thinking that any speed increase is nice. I was actually thinking about 2 Gig cards and a crossover cable, with no hub for these two machines. That would increase the speed a little more. I think :confused: :confused: And save a bit of time backing up to the machine I store to. I can get 2 Gig cards for about $60 bucks, so I was curious if anyone was using something like that. I'm gonna think about it. :) -Randy
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It changed. I was gonna post a page of definitions, then someone reminded me of a web-site. So I apologize
S'alright. I was just giving you a bad time. :)
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Using it work. Just fitted a new rack with new servers and they are all using Gigabit cards with Cat 5e cabling. They are then running via fibre hub connecting the rest of the server racks. :cool:
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Actually I have some freaky obsession with hardware. I've got a 3 Gig chip with 2 Gig of Ram now. I have 8 "high-end" machines at my place. I have the luxury of getting hardware cheaper than cost, so I have way to much hardware here (some of you will hate me saying this.) I like horsepower and speed. Most of which gets wasted, since I use one base machine. But, I like new toys and Gigabit seems interesting, especially when I think of transfering 3 or 4 Gig at a time over the network. So it is a practical application for me. I've got 10Mps on my cable-connection to the internet, and its more than I need. But for a fileserver, I'm thinking that any speed increase is nice. I was actually thinking about 2 Gig cards and a crossover cable, with no hub for these two machines. That would increase the speed a little more. I think :confused: :confused: And save a bit of time backing up to the machine I store to. I can get 2 Gig cards for about $60 bucks, so I was curious if anyone was using something like that. I'm gonna think about it. :) -Randy
zenboy wrote: I was actually thinking about 2 Gig cards and a crossover cable, with no hub for these two machines. That would increase the speed a little more. I think And save a bit of time backing up to the machine I store to. Not really sure what you mean by 2 Gig cards and a crossover cable. But, if your primary purpose is backup, then a single gb card crossed over to a server will allow you to backup that server to a NAS device or SAN. I agree with no hub. Hub's are my nemises. :) I use switches whenever possible, managed when $$ permit. Even still, I think the repeater rule is 2 hubs / switches per interface so thats even tough. (By 2 hubs / switches I mean repeated not uplinked by fiber or other mdx interface). If you can get hdware at such a cheap price, why not invest in a good gb backboned switch. 100 mb to your servers, gb to your backup. :) Cheers, Frank "Keyboard Error - Press F1 to Continue"