Why I like Microsoft today
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It was back in 1988 so I don't remember much other than the orange dumb terminals and the 2 hours of logon time we had in the first year. Yes 2 hours of computer time on a computer science degree course! They wanted to train us to figure everything out on paper and use the 2 hours for just typing in and running the code. So the IDE was in effect paper and pencil :( I looked up the VT100 and it looks fairly advanced.
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― Christopher Hitchens
Wow! Blast from the past! I was in CS for a couple of years around that time. I think I had special graph paper (80 columns I think) for writing out programs in BASIC, Fortran, Pascal, and C. The lab was just a bunch of dumb terminals where you typed in your program, sent the job to the compiler and prayed. Homework was turned in on greenbar with code and results. The lab closed promptly at 8 each night which did not fit in with the part-time job I had to take at the time...that led to dropping out of uni and working 10 years in manufacturing before going back to finish. Everything was different in the late 90's! I remember feeling awestruck when I discovered that I could write and compile code at home, anytime I wanted! I hadn't been able to do that since retiring the TI-99/4a. Great times then and since! :laugh:
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Since I stopped developing almost exclusively on VAX/VMS, I have worked with Microsoft based systems. To that end, they have been part of keeping me gainfully employed. I don't necessarily like or agree with everything they do, but I do like getting a paycheck.
Thus they are a necessary evil.
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Since I stopped developing almost exclusively on VAX/VMS, I have worked with Microsoft based systems. To that end, they have been part of keeping me gainfully employed. I don't necessarily like or agree with everything they do, but I do like getting a paycheck.
That's the spirit! Just enjoying the "coolness" of what you're doing without all the analysis and paralysis. Good for you! :)
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I have been making a living for over 15 years with primarily, Microsoft products. Whether I like it or not, they help me get paid.
Exactly. I've been writing code to Microsoft since DOS 1.1. MS is as good a platform as any, better than some.
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GuyThiebaut wrote:
The concept of an IDE
What? You didn't have those wonderful VT100s? They gave access to the editor, compiler, linker, debugger... all from one big solid device. :-D Well, OK, we also had Turbo Pascal to show us what we were missing.
VT100's and RSX 11/M. I had a hallelujia breakdown when they came out with the 102's!
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It's a manufacturing system from circa 1981 (I think when DEC was breaking out). Lots of reporting, *very* custom sorting (makes my eyes water), all FORTRAN 66 (think short variable names). Years ago, there was a "consultant" whose one claim to fame was to keep the VAX running. He had it in his basement. I have no idea how much $$ he made supporting this vax, but if you know anything about the DEC hardware back then, it was built like a tank. They just sit in the corner and run. The system has now been migrated to a VAX emulation system (Charon VAX) that runs on a $500 PC.
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charlieg wrote:
Years ago, there was a "consultant" whose one claim to fame was to keep the VAX running. He had it in his basement. I have no idea how much $$ he made supporting this vax, but if you know anything about the DEC hardware back then, it was built like a tank. They just sit in the corner and run.
They certainly did and they certainly were. At that company I worked at (circa 1982) we were using a big PDP-11/44 running RSX/11M. There were something like 6 RL02 units plugged into it (those cool 10MEGA BYTE removable hard drives) and we finally got a big 80MEGA BYTE fixed disk. This system supported 15 developers on a network of VT100 terminals too. We wrote a heck of a lot of software (DEC FORTRAN and Assembler) on that system. Toward the end of my time there we started getting mini-VAX system which I didn't get a chance to work on but they (like the PDP) were really tough. We were installing that hardware in water and wastewater treatment plants.
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Since I stopped developing almost exclusively on VAX/VMS, I have worked with Microsoft based systems. To that end, they have been part of keeping me gainfully employed. I don't necessarily like or agree with everything they do, but I do like getting a paycheck.
VT100 was advanced technology! How about an IBM 360 with punch cards via COBOL! First program ever was 250 lines(cards). Got the program back from the University data center and it had 700 errors! lol. (circa 1970). C# and .Net have been great but I think the industry is now embracing JavaScript (TypeScript would be nice) and Angular along with a barrage of JS libraries. Microsoft has some serious catching up to do. They should have made .NET native to the IE browser. Never developed anything in Silverlight but it was a good idea. Cheers to all.
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Nonsense. That's why nearly every product of theirs has an SDK. They want developers to make their products better.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Haters gonna hate. I recently had to develop a solution targeting the Linux platform and after that experience I consider Microsoft to be 'the land of milk and honey'. Microsoft developer tools are superb and (more importantly) Microsoft provides outstanding SDKs and [legitimate] documentation for their APIs.
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Haters gonna hate. I recently had to develop a solution targeting the Linux platform and after that experience I consider Microsoft to be 'the land of milk and honey'. Microsoft developer tools are superb and (more importantly) Microsoft provides outstanding SDKs and [legitimate] documentation for their APIs.
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Since I stopped developing almost exclusively on VAX/VMS, I have worked with Microsoft based systems. To that end, they have been part of keeping me gainfully employed. I don't necessarily like or agree with everything they do, but I do like getting a paycheck.
Tim Carmichael wrote:
Since I stopped developing almost exclusively on VAX/VMS, I have worked with Microsoft based systems.
Looks like we old farts all have something in common! :-D I still remember the day in '92 I decided I'd learn Windows instead of MacOS. I had 2 books in front of me - Petzold's Programming Windows 3.1 and a couple of Mac programming manuals. After a brief read, I decided to go with Windows. Owning a PC helped. I haven't looked back since. I continue to have a lot of respect for Apple's software and UX - I just don't program for it. Have once again started to feel the rush as I delve into Android (using C# as a development platform). :cool: /ravi
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Since I stopped developing almost exclusively on VAX/VMS, I have worked with Microsoft based systems. To that end, they have been part of keeping me gainfully employed. I don't necessarily like or agree with everything they do, but I do like getting a paycheck.
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Since I stopped developing almost exclusively on VAX/VMS, I have worked with Microsoft based systems. To that end, they have been part of keeping me gainfully employed. I don't necessarily like or agree with everything they do, but I do like getting a paycheck.
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Started using VAX/VMS in college in January 1983... so, I've passed the half century mark.