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  • B Bram van Kampen

    Cloud Computing is of Zero Interest to us as an organisation. the term suggests that the data you store in it, is somewhere in the clouds. Not the case. The data is stored in a Computer Farm, somewhere in some American desert. Writing from the UK, and looking at it from a UK point of view, the following issues occur to me:- 1. Because my data is stored in the USA, the USA Authorities can enforce access to same. 2. Because every time I Access data, My data requests pass international borders, the data I pass can be scrutinised by GCHQ in England. GCHQ is not authorized to eavesdrop on Internal UK Traffic. I want to keep my own data in my own servers. Microsoft seems to assume that their agenda of getting higher and further is every users goal. That's not always the case. I supply a large Niche market for systems that will never connect to the Internet, e.g. Sales terminals. For those Applications, VC 5.0 and MFC42 provide still the best environment. I've tried Windows 8. It can NEVER serve as a Sales Terminal. (Mouse Moves to Corners gives access to 'Mysterious things'. Bottom Line: I Do Not want the computer I bought to run my business, to work like an employee's mobile phone. I want control over it's interface, and want to 'Ban' those default' MS Apps. (I have come to Hate these Apps) If Win 9 does not improve on this, I'll transfer to Linux :) Bram

    Bram van Kampen

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    I must admit, every time I am forced to look at something with Win8 on it Android does look better and better...

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    • B Bram van Kampen

      Cloud Computing is of Zero Interest to us as an organisation. the term suggests that the data you store in it, is somewhere in the clouds. Not the case. The data is stored in a Computer Farm, somewhere in some American desert. Writing from the UK, and looking at it from a UK point of view, the following issues occur to me:- 1. Because my data is stored in the USA, the USA Authorities can enforce access to same. 2. Because every time I Access data, My data requests pass international borders, the data I pass can be scrutinised by GCHQ in England. GCHQ is not authorized to eavesdrop on Internal UK Traffic. I want to keep my own data in my own servers. Microsoft seems to assume that their agenda of getting higher and further is every users goal. That's not always the case. I supply a large Niche market for systems that will never connect to the Internet, e.g. Sales terminals. For those Applications, VC 5.0 and MFC42 provide still the best environment. I've tried Windows 8. It can NEVER serve as a Sales Terminal. (Mouse Moves to Corners gives access to 'Mysterious things'. Bottom Line: I Do Not want the computer I bought to run my business, to work like an employee's mobile phone. I want control over it's interface, and want to 'Ban' those default' MS Apps. (I have come to Hate these Apps) If Win 9 does not improve on this, I'll transfer to Linux :) Bram

      Bram van Kampen

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      Who needs cloud computing ? I can access my data from about anywhere with a VPN connection.

      ~RaGE();

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      • B Bram van Kampen

        Cloud Computing is of Zero Interest to us as an organisation. the term suggests that the data you store in it, is somewhere in the clouds. Not the case. The data is stored in a Computer Farm, somewhere in some American desert. Writing from the UK, and looking at it from a UK point of view, the following issues occur to me:- 1. Because my data is stored in the USA, the USA Authorities can enforce access to same. 2. Because every time I Access data, My data requests pass international borders, the data I pass can be scrutinised by GCHQ in England. GCHQ is not authorized to eavesdrop on Internal UK Traffic. I want to keep my own data in my own servers. Microsoft seems to assume that their agenda of getting higher and further is every users goal. That's not always the case. I supply a large Niche market for systems that will never connect to the Internet, e.g. Sales terminals. For those Applications, VC 5.0 and MFC42 provide still the best environment. I've tried Windows 8. It can NEVER serve as a Sales Terminal. (Mouse Moves to Corners gives access to 'Mysterious things'. Bottom Line: I Do Not want the computer I bought to run my business, to work like an employee's mobile phone. I want control over it's interface, and want to 'Ban' those default' MS Apps. (I have come to Hate these Apps) If Win 9 does not improve on this, I'll transfer to Linux :) Bram

        Bram van Kampen

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        ZurdoDev
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        Bram van Kampen wrote:

        Because my data is stored in the USA

        So, use a cloud in the UK. :doh:

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        • B Bram van Kampen

          Cloud Computing is of Zero Interest to us as an organisation. the term suggests that the data you store in it, is somewhere in the clouds. Not the case. The data is stored in a Computer Farm, somewhere in some American desert. Writing from the UK, and looking at it from a UK point of view, the following issues occur to me:- 1. Because my data is stored in the USA, the USA Authorities can enforce access to same. 2. Because every time I Access data, My data requests pass international borders, the data I pass can be scrutinised by GCHQ in England. GCHQ is not authorized to eavesdrop on Internal UK Traffic. I want to keep my own data in my own servers. Microsoft seems to assume that their agenda of getting higher and further is every users goal. That's not always the case. I supply a large Niche market for systems that will never connect to the Internet, e.g. Sales terminals. For those Applications, VC 5.0 and MFC42 provide still the best environment. I've tried Windows 8. It can NEVER serve as a Sales Terminal. (Mouse Moves to Corners gives access to 'Mysterious things'. Bottom Line: I Do Not want the computer I bought to run my business, to work like an employee's mobile phone. I want control over it's interface, and want to 'Ban' those default' MS Apps. (I have come to Hate these Apps) If Win 9 does not improve on this, I'll transfer to Linux :) Bram

          Bram van Kampen

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          Bram van Kampen wrote:

          I Do Not want the computer I bought to run my business, to work like an employee's mobile phone.

          Why not?

          Bram van Kampen wrote:

          I want control over it's interface, and want to 'Ban' those default' MS Apps. (I have come to Hate these Apps)

          Do you mean notepad, calculator and such? :)

          -- "My software never has bugs. It just develops random features."

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          • B Bram van Kampen

            Cloud Computing is of Zero Interest to us as an organisation. the term suggests that the data you store in it, is somewhere in the clouds. Not the case. The data is stored in a Computer Farm, somewhere in some American desert. Writing from the UK, and looking at it from a UK point of view, the following issues occur to me:- 1. Because my data is stored in the USA, the USA Authorities can enforce access to same. 2. Because every time I Access data, My data requests pass international borders, the data I pass can be scrutinised by GCHQ in England. GCHQ is not authorized to eavesdrop on Internal UK Traffic. I want to keep my own data in my own servers. Microsoft seems to assume that their agenda of getting higher and further is every users goal. That's not always the case. I supply a large Niche market for systems that will never connect to the Internet, e.g. Sales terminals. For those Applications, VC 5.0 and MFC42 provide still the best environment. I've tried Windows 8. It can NEVER serve as a Sales Terminal. (Mouse Moves to Corners gives access to 'Mysterious things'. Bottom Line: I Do Not want the computer I bought to run my business, to work like an employee's mobile phone. I want control over it's interface, and want to 'Ban' those default' MS Apps. (I have come to Hate these Apps) If Win 9 does not improve on this, I'll transfer to Linux :) Bram

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            It seems you have no idea what Cloud computing is. This video[^] clip might help get started.

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            • B Bram van Kampen

              Cloud Computing is of Zero Interest to us as an organisation. the term suggests that the data you store in it, is somewhere in the clouds. Not the case. The data is stored in a Computer Farm, somewhere in some American desert. Writing from the UK, and looking at it from a UK point of view, the following issues occur to me:- 1. Because my data is stored in the USA, the USA Authorities can enforce access to same. 2. Because every time I Access data, My data requests pass international borders, the data I pass can be scrutinised by GCHQ in England. GCHQ is not authorized to eavesdrop on Internal UK Traffic. I want to keep my own data in my own servers. Microsoft seems to assume that their agenda of getting higher and further is every users goal. That's not always the case. I supply a large Niche market for systems that will never connect to the Internet, e.g. Sales terminals. For those Applications, VC 5.0 and MFC42 provide still the best environment. I've tried Windows 8. It can NEVER serve as a Sales Terminal. (Mouse Moves to Corners gives access to 'Mysterious things'. Bottom Line: I Do Not want the computer I bought to run my business, to work like an employee's mobile phone. I want control over it's interface, and want to 'Ban' those default' MS Apps. (I have come to Hate these Apps) If Win 9 does not improve on this, I'll transfer to Linux :) Bram

              Bram van Kampen

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              Bram van Kampen wrote:

              Cloud Computing is of Zero Interest to us as an organisation. the term suggests that the data you store in it, is somewhere in the clouds. Not the case. The data is stored in a Computer Farm, somewhere in some American desert. Writing from the UK, and looking at it from a UK point of view, the following issues occur to me:-

              Actually that is not the case. Cloud computing is of course very Buzz wordy. What does it mean? Offloading computation power to mainframes. That mainframe can certainly be owned and housed by you. There is of course massive amount of tooling to assist in using licensed/leased server space which is the typical "advertised Cloud computing", because there is a lot of money and interest in it. Think about it. Small software firm create an awesome way to process data. They want the world to know about it. They can either, hire an entire IT department, buy servers, buy server OSes, buy server management software, buy server software deployment tools, etc. etc. Or they can pay for some server space to "Cloud Computer" on Azure or the Amazon infrastructure. It is a no brainer. However, there are many industries that do not want there data housed externally. Especially with the "Prism" and Snowden things coming to light.

              Bram van Kampen wrote:

              Bottom Line:
              I Do Not want the computer I bought to run my business, to work like an employee's mobile phone.
              I want control over it's interface, and want to 'Ban' those default' MS Apps. (I have come to Hate these Apps)
              If Win 9 does not improve on this, I'll transfer to Linux

              Your logic here is quite flawed. Seems you are wanting something from Win 9 that Linux can not do properly so why would you go to Linux because Win 9 does not do it. That is like saying if next year's Toyota Camry does not have 80 mpg I am buying a Honda Accord.

              Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.

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              • B Bram van Kampen

                Cloud Computing is of Zero Interest to us as an organisation. the term suggests that the data you store in it, is somewhere in the clouds. Not the case. The data is stored in a Computer Farm, somewhere in some American desert. Writing from the UK, and looking at it from a UK point of view, the following issues occur to me:- 1. Because my data is stored in the USA, the USA Authorities can enforce access to same. 2. Because every time I Access data, My data requests pass international borders, the data I pass can be scrutinised by GCHQ in England. GCHQ is not authorized to eavesdrop on Internal UK Traffic. I want to keep my own data in my own servers. Microsoft seems to assume that their agenda of getting higher and further is every users goal. That's not always the case. I supply a large Niche market for systems that will never connect to the Internet, e.g. Sales terminals. For those Applications, VC 5.0 and MFC42 provide still the best environment. I've tried Windows 8. It can NEVER serve as a Sales Terminal. (Mouse Moves to Corners gives access to 'Mysterious things'. Bottom Line: I Do Not want the computer I bought to run my business, to work like an employee's mobile phone. I want control over it's interface, and want to 'Ban' those default' MS Apps. (I have come to Hate these Apps) If Win 9 does not improve on this, I'll transfer to Linux :) Bram

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                I actually like Win8. Most people that don't are just afraid of change. Which is sad because without change life stops being interesting. I'm not a big fan of the cloud, but you don't have to have to US based cloud servers, maybe with Azure. I never looked into it for Windows. You can most certainly host your own with Unix/Linux though. I'd image you could with Windows, don't see any reason why MS wouldn't allow that.

                Bram van Kampen wrote:

                For those Applications, VC 5.0 and MFC42 provide still the best environment.

                Speaking of being afraid of change.

                Jeremy Falcon

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                • B Bram van Kampen

                  Cloud Computing is of Zero Interest to us as an organisation. the term suggests that the data you store in it, is somewhere in the clouds. Not the case. The data is stored in a Computer Farm, somewhere in some American desert. Writing from the UK, and looking at it from a UK point of view, the following issues occur to me:- 1. Because my data is stored in the USA, the USA Authorities can enforce access to same. 2. Because every time I Access data, My data requests pass international borders, the data I pass can be scrutinised by GCHQ in England. GCHQ is not authorized to eavesdrop on Internal UK Traffic. I want to keep my own data in my own servers. Microsoft seems to assume that their agenda of getting higher and further is every users goal. That's not always the case. I supply a large Niche market for systems that will never connect to the Internet, e.g. Sales terminals. For those Applications, VC 5.0 and MFC42 provide still the best environment. I've tried Windows 8. It can NEVER serve as a Sales Terminal. (Mouse Moves to Corners gives access to 'Mysterious things'. Bottom Line: I Do Not want the computer I bought to run my business, to work like an employee's mobile phone. I want control over it's interface, and want to 'Ban' those default' MS Apps. (I have come to Hate these Apps) If Win 9 does not improve on this, I'll transfer to Linux :) Bram

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                  I think a lot more people are going to be switching in the future!

                  New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9. I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours!

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                    I think a lot more people are going to be switching in the future!

                    New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9. I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours!

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                    I've never heard that one before. Especially not in the past few years.

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                    • B Bram van Kampen

                      Cloud Computing is of Zero Interest to us as an organisation. the term suggests that the data you store in it, is somewhere in the clouds. Not the case. The data is stored in a Computer Farm, somewhere in some American desert. Writing from the UK, and looking at it from a UK point of view, the following issues occur to me:- 1. Because my data is stored in the USA, the USA Authorities can enforce access to same. 2. Because every time I Access data, My data requests pass international borders, the data I pass can be scrutinised by GCHQ in England. GCHQ is not authorized to eavesdrop on Internal UK Traffic. I want to keep my own data in my own servers. Microsoft seems to assume that their agenda of getting higher and further is every users goal. That's not always the case. I supply a large Niche market for systems that will never connect to the Internet, e.g. Sales terminals. For those Applications, VC 5.0 and MFC42 provide still the best environment. I've tried Windows 8. It can NEVER serve as a Sales Terminal. (Mouse Moves to Corners gives access to 'Mysterious things'. Bottom Line: I Do Not want the computer I bought to run my business, to work like an employee's mobile phone. I want control over it's interface, and want to 'Ban' those default' MS Apps. (I have come to Hate these Apps) If Win 9 does not improve on this, I'll transfer to Linux :) Bram

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                      Bram van Kampen wrote:

                      1. Because my data is stored in the USA, the USA Authorities can enforce access to same.
                      2. Because every time I Access data, My data requests pass international borders, the data I pass can be scrutinised by GCHQ in England. GCHQ is not authorized to eavesdrop on Internal UK Traffic.

                      Oh, wake up. Do you really think the law will stop them to not look at the data they want to see? Here is the truth, get used to it: 1. If some group as powerful as government or big security agency want to see your data - they will, even if you have it on pendrive in your pocket. Only safe place is your mind. (Or not - we don't know what tech they have) 2. Is your data really worth looking at? What secrets do you have? Do you think they care if you bought new toy for yourself using company's money? They don't. If you are targeted for some reason - see 1.

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