iPhone 6 vs Android phones
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While being fully aware of the fact of risking to start a fanboi war here, I decided to leave my opinion on the new iPhone 6. I'll probably get myself an iPhone 6 later this year - I used the iPhone 4, a Galaxy S4 and a HTC dual sim phone over the past years. While the Galaxy grew more popular (and mine broke) I got myself the HTC because of the dual sim capability - It works, but the "Calendar Widget crashed"-message I get every once in a while is annoying. And that is how I personally feel about Android in general. It works reasonably well most of the time, but if it doesn't work one can be sure to find a solution for another version of Android, but not the version on the phone one's using at the moment. An iPhone always "just worked" and didn't gave me a hard time moving Apps to the SD card (a major problem which I have with the HTC right now) - I'm facing computer problems every day, no matter if it is in the army (I'm working for the Action Command Center right now) or as Software Developer and don't want to resolve any troubles I'm having with my phone in my free time. It just needs to work.
The console is a black place
Apps crash on the wife's ipad and my daughter's iphone all the time -- but they're just not there when you look for them, and have to be restarted; ios doesn't pop up a message telling you that an app has crashed. I dare say that app-crash notifications can be turned off in Android, too, if they distress you so. But bear in mind that required TSR apps like calendars will be automatically restarted by Android, meaning that without the notification you would never know that an app had crashed (i.e. it's doing you a favour by letting you know which apps are misbehaving). With ios, you know something has crashed because you have to physically restart it, so they do you the "favour" of doing nothing for your benefit.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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While being fully aware of the fact of risking to start a fanboi war here, I decided to leave my opinion on the new iPhone 6. I'll probably get myself an iPhone 6 later this year - I used the iPhone 4, a Galaxy S4 and a HTC dual sim phone over the past years. While the Galaxy grew more popular (and mine broke) I got myself the HTC because of the dual sim capability - It works, but the "Calendar Widget crashed"-message I get every once in a while is annoying. And that is how I personally feel about Android in general. It works reasonably well most of the time, but if it doesn't work one can be sure to find a solution for another version of Android, but not the version on the phone one's using at the moment. An iPhone always "just worked" and didn't gave me a hard time moving Apps to the SD card (a major problem which I have with the HTC right now) - I'm facing computer problems every day, no matter if it is in the army (I'm working for the Action Command Center right now) or as Software Developer and don't want to resolve any troubles I'm having with my phone in my free time. It just needs to work.
The console is a black place
For 5 years or more now my wife has had a succession of iPhones and I've had three Android phones (just got my third a Moto 4G, a budget phone). I have always had SD cards, my wife has always had no space available and had to make decisions about getting rid of things on an almost daily basis to keep using it. I can copy whatever I want onto (and off of) my phone from wherever I want, each time my wife wants something doing to hers I have to battle with iTunes (including updating the beast to the latest version first). I have no problems with lost calls, low call quality, or lost text messages. My wife is constantly cursing those bits which traditionally constitutes a 'phone'. I have never had to call my service or phone provider, or take my phone into a shop, or get a diagnostic run on it. My wife on the other hand, has done both, a number of times, usually to be told to upgrade either iOS or phone, the first a great bastard battle with space and iTunes. No-one has ever published my nude photos on the internet. OK, so it was me who published those photos of my wife*. I can organise my phones however I want to, widgets, icons, arrange the screens in whatever order and layout I want to. I have a back key, the single most annoying thing to me about i devices. She has Facetime. I don't love Android, I don't hate Apple. I have never had any problems with using Android devices, I repeatedly get frustrated trying to do things and feel like I have a complete lack of control on both iPhones and iPads. * Not really.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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Apps crash on the wife's ipad and my daughter's iphone all the time -- but they're just not there when you look for them, and have to be restarted; ios doesn't pop up a message telling you that an app has crashed. I dare say that app-crash notifications can be turned off in Android, too, if they distress you so. But bear in mind that required TSR apps like calendars will be automatically restarted by Android, meaning that without the notification you would never know that an app had crashed (i.e. it's doing you a favour by letting you know which apps are misbehaving). With ios, you know something has crashed because you have to physically restart it, so they do you the "favour" of doing nothing for your benefit.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
I'd rather know it crashed: that at least prompts me to check the last data I entered is still there (if not to look for a more reliable app).
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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For 5 years or more now my wife has had a succession of iPhones and I've had three Android phones (just got my third a Moto 4G, a budget phone). I have always had SD cards, my wife has always had no space available and had to make decisions about getting rid of things on an almost daily basis to keep using it. I can copy whatever I want onto (and off of) my phone from wherever I want, each time my wife wants something doing to hers I have to battle with iTunes (including updating the beast to the latest version first). I have no problems with lost calls, low call quality, or lost text messages. My wife is constantly cursing those bits which traditionally constitutes a 'phone'. I have never had to call my service or phone provider, or take my phone into a shop, or get a diagnostic run on it. My wife on the other hand, has done both, a number of times, usually to be told to upgrade either iOS or phone, the first a great bastard battle with space and iTunes. No-one has ever published my nude photos on the internet. OK, so it was me who published those photos of my wife*. I can organise my phones however I want to, widgets, icons, arrange the screens in whatever order and layout I want to. I have a back key, the single most annoying thing to me about i devices. She has Facetime. I don't love Android, I don't hate Apple. I have never had any problems with using Android devices, I repeatedly get frustrated trying to do things and feel like I have a complete lack of control on both iPhones and iPads. * Not really.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
chriselst wrote:
No-one has ever published my nude photos on the internet
Hah! We know it was you that left that camera on Brighton beach for Dave Gorman to find! :laugh:
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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chriselst wrote:
No-one has ever published my nude photos on the internet
Hah! We know it was you that left that camera on Brighton beach for Dave Gorman to find! :laugh:
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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While being fully aware of the fact of risking to start a fanboi war here, I decided to leave my opinion on the new iPhone 6. I'll probably get myself an iPhone 6 later this year - I used the iPhone 4, a Galaxy S4 and a HTC dual sim phone over the past years. While the Galaxy grew more popular (and mine broke) I got myself the HTC because of the dual sim capability - It works, but the "Calendar Widget crashed"-message I get every once in a while is annoying. And that is how I personally feel about Android in general. It works reasonably well most of the time, but if it doesn't work one can be sure to find a solution for another version of Android, but not the version on the phone one's using at the moment. An iPhone always "just worked" and didn't gave me a hard time moving Apps to the SD card (a major problem which I have with the HTC right now) - I'm facing computer problems every day, no matter if it is in the army (I'm working for the Action Command Center right now) or as Software Developer and don't want to resolve any troubles I'm having with my phone in my free time. It just needs to work.
The console is a black place
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Looks aren't everything! Oh, sorry... :doh: ...I forgot this was an Apple product.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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In my personal experience, the apps on my wife's iPhone fails a lot more often than on my HTC. But they fail silently. People in general interpret that as that it's more stable. It isn't, but Apple is a lot better at psychology.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]
It's odd - Maybe that doesn't happen to me because I don't use a lot of apps, and an app failing every once in a while doesn't bug me as much as one that fails every time I unlock the phone.
The console is a black place
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In my personal experience, the apps on my wife's iPhone fails a lot more often than on my HTC. But they fail silently. People in general interpret that as that it's more stable. It isn't, but Apple is a lot better at psychology.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]
The Apps fail, but not the phone and/or the OS. In all my years, only 2nd class apps (mostly games) crash often; all other apps from more reliable developers work ok.
I'd rather be phishing!
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While being fully aware of the fact of risking to start a fanboi war here, I decided to leave my opinion on the new iPhone 6. I'll probably get myself an iPhone 6 later this year - I used the iPhone 4, a Galaxy S4 and a HTC dual sim phone over the past years. While the Galaxy grew more popular (and mine broke) I got myself the HTC because of the dual sim capability - It works, but the "Calendar Widget crashed"-message I get every once in a while is annoying. And that is how I personally feel about Android in general. It works reasonably well most of the time, but if it doesn't work one can be sure to find a solution for another version of Android, but not the version on the phone one's using at the moment. An iPhone always "just worked" and didn't gave me a hard time moving Apps to the SD card (a major problem which I have with the HTC right now) - I'm facing computer problems every day, no matter if it is in the army (I'm working for the Action Command Center right now) or as Software Developer and don't want to resolve any troubles I'm having with my phone in my free time. It just needs to work.
The console is a black place
My wife and I have had a series of iPhones for a number of years, starting with a used iPhone 3S. I upgraded to a 5C this summer and gave my old 3S to my daughter to use as an iPod touch. We still have the iPod touch we bought for her 5 years ago, and it still works. For what we wanted... a phone that allows us to store and play music and use the apps we are interested in, it does exactly what we want without having issues. Neither of us have ever used all of the space available (my old 3S with an 8G model). So, if you have something that works for you, whatever it is, I'm happy for you. Tim
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My wife and I have had a series of iPhones for a number of years, starting with a used iPhone 3S. I upgraded to a 5C this summer and gave my old 3S to my daughter to use as an iPod touch. We still have the iPod touch we bought for her 5 years ago, and it still works. For what we wanted... a phone that allows us to store and play music and use the apps we are interested in, it does exactly what we want without having issues. Neither of us have ever used all of the space available (my old 3S with an 8G model). So, if you have something that works for you, whatever it is, I'm happy for you. Tim
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While being fully aware of the fact of risking to start a fanboi war here, I decided to leave my opinion on the new iPhone 6. I'll probably get myself an iPhone 6 later this year - I used the iPhone 4, a Galaxy S4 and a HTC dual sim phone over the past years. While the Galaxy grew more popular (and mine broke) I got myself the HTC because of the dual sim capability - It works, but the "Calendar Widget crashed"-message I get every once in a while is annoying. And that is how I personally feel about Android in general. It works reasonably well most of the time, but if it doesn't work one can be sure to find a solution for another version of Android, but not the version on the phone one's using at the moment. An iPhone always "just worked" and didn't gave me a hard time moving Apps to the SD card (a major problem which I have with the HTC right now) - I'm facing computer problems every day, no matter if it is in the army (I'm working for the Action Command Center right now) or as Software Developer and don't want to resolve any troubles I'm having with my phone in my free time. It just needs to work.
The console is a black place
The real question here is : why should people buy a new phone ? The 6 has no feature that I couldn't live without. Neither had the 5 nor the 4. Maybe not even the 3GS. So my question is: why are people constantly changing their smartphones ? Especially when these thingies are about as expensive as a good laptop ? This is nonsense. And do not get me started about impact on the environment...
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.
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The real question here is : why should people buy a new phone ? The 6 has no feature that I couldn't live without. Neither had the 5 nor the 4. Maybe not even the 3GS. So my question is: why are people constantly changing their smartphones ? Especially when these thingies are about as expensive as a good laptop ? This is nonsense. And do not get me started about impact on the environment...
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.
People are already queuing for the release next week. Some want the phone, some are planning on selling their place in the queues for more than a grand. Absolute culty madness.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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The real question here is : why should people buy a new phone ? The 6 has no feature that I couldn't live without. Neither had the 5 nor the 4. Maybe not even the 3GS. So my question is: why are people constantly changing their smartphones ? Especially when these thingies are about as expensive as a good laptop ? This is nonsense. And do not get me started about impact on the environment...
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.
Rage wrote:
Especially when these thingies are about as expensive as a good laptop ?
Both of my last two Android phones were cheap, around 200 bucks each. IF I will get myself an iPhone, I'll have it with a new contract which gives me unlimited mobile internet (something I definitely need), unlimited phone calls and SMS for about 200 bucks. I'd never buy it for the original price, a 700.- phone is way too much.
The console is a black place
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The real question here is : why should people buy a new phone ? The 6 has no feature that I couldn't live without. Neither had the 5 nor the 4. Maybe not even the 3GS. So my question is: why are people constantly changing their smartphones ? Especially when these thingies are about as expensive as a good laptop ? This is nonsense. And do not get me started about impact on the environment...
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.
(disclaimer, I own an iPhone 5, and I'm happy with it; I have no issues with it or the apple ecosystem; I have no reason to jump ship) People buy them (all electronic gadgets) because each new generation offer new features. The features might be new or simply incremental. for example, phone cameras improved a lot in the last couple of years; battery life increased (not enough IMO); they are lighter even if the phones become bigger. The hardware offer more features (new sensors of all kinds); I have hope that the NFC support on the iPhone will help all other devices manufacturers push for more acceptance of electronic pay in more than a very limited number of stores; and the imposition of a standard for that so that all banks will offer electronic pay support. I don't think the comparison of phones to laptops is a good one; they are two different beats; even tablets (MS's surfaces included). Will I buy a iPhone 6 (not the plus size)? surely, now ? no, but probably around Christmas when I will be near my phone contract's end.
I'd rather be phishing!
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The real question here is : why should people buy a new phone ? The 6 has no feature that I couldn't live without. Neither had the 5 nor the 4. Maybe not even the 3GS. So my question is: why are people constantly changing their smartphones ? Especially when these thingies are about as expensive as a good laptop ? This is nonsense. And do not get me started about impact on the environment...
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.
Rage wrote:
why should people buy a new phone ?
Don't know about others but I buy a new phone when the old one stops working. Unsurprisingly, the old cheap "dumb" phones used to last much longer than the new shiny "smart" ones.
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The real question here is : why should people buy a new phone ? The 6 has no feature that I couldn't live without. Neither had the 5 nor the 4. Maybe not even the 3GS. So my question is: why are people constantly changing their smartphones ? Especially when these thingies are about as expensive as a good laptop ? This is nonsense. And do not get me started about impact on the environment...
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.
I upgrade my phone because where I work has an option to receive work e-mail on the phone. However, my old one didn't meet the required minimums. And, if I get work e-mail, I can expense a portion of my bill monthly... so, there was a financial inducement that more than covered the added expenditure.
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(disclaimer, I own an iPhone 5, and I'm happy with it; I have no issues with it or the apple ecosystem; I have no reason to jump ship) People buy them (all electronic gadgets) because each new generation offer new features. The features might be new or simply incremental. for example, phone cameras improved a lot in the last couple of years; battery life increased (not enough IMO); they are lighter even if the phones become bigger. The hardware offer more features (new sensors of all kinds); I have hope that the NFC support on the iPhone will help all other devices manufacturers push for more acceptance of electronic pay in more than a very limited number of stores; and the imposition of a standard for that so that all banks will offer electronic pay support. I don't think the comparison of phones to laptops is a good one; they are two different beats; even tablets (MS's surfaces included). Will I buy a iPhone 6 (not the plus size)? surely, now ? no, but probably around Christmas when I will be near my phone contract's end.
I'd rather be phishing!
Maximilien wrote:
no, but probably around Christmas when I will be near my phone contract's end
Exactly my point: You own an iPhone 5, perfectly working, and you will throw it away because of what : a small bunch of unnecessary features ? The comparison with the laptop was just to bring it in focus how damn expensive the iPhones are. I cannot understand why people would keep their 10-year-old laptop (and they do, trust me, I've fixed many of them) and struggle every time they have to fire up a web browser because it lags, and in the same time get rid of the smartphone they have bought one year earlier to buy the newest which hardly has new features, let alone features that are really relevant for them. Again, this is nonsense. I own a Samsung Galaxy S1. It simply works. I don't need no new phone every year.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Maximilien wrote:
no, but probably around Christmas when I will be near my phone contract's end
Exactly my point: You own an iPhone 5, perfectly working, and you will throw it away because of what : a small bunch of unnecessary features ? The comparison with the laptop was just to bring it in focus how damn expensive the iPhones are. I cannot understand why people would keep their 10-year-old laptop (and they do, trust me, I've fixed many of them) and struggle every time they have to fire up a web browser because it lags, and in the same time get rid of the smartphone they have bought one year earlier to buy the newest which hardly has new features, let alone features that are really relevant for them. Again, this is nonsense. I own a Samsung Galaxy S1. It simply works. I don't need no new phone every year.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.
Who says the features are unnecessary ? :confused: maybe for you. Some people might be happy to have the new barometer sensor; new application can be written to handle it (GIS, scientific apps, bike computers, skiing computures, ...) I would need to look at the differences between the 5 and the 5s before looking at the 6 before committing to it.
I'd rather be phishing!
