Going back home after the Barcelona celebration
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Mrs. Wife has not come this time. But even without her it's been amazing and incredible. Now driving back home with my parents and willing to see it on tv. Let's see if it helps us to be able to vote this november the 9th. I'm curious: have you seen or heard something about it? Some pictures you can see on Internet: 1[^] 2[^] Each stripe of the "human flag" was made of 4 people lines, there were the
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Mrs. Wife has not come this time. But even without her it's been amazing and incredible. Now driving back home with my parents and willing to see it on tv. Let's see if it helps us to be able to vote this november the 9th. I'm curious: have you seen or heard something about it? Some pictures you can see on Internet: 1[^] 2[^] Each stripe of the "human flag" was made of 4 people lines, there were the
Went to Spain (Madrid and Barcelona) for the first time last year... it was amazing. Hopefully I'll get a chance to go again some time.
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Haven't you heard about it then? Where are you from?
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Went to Spain (Madrid and Barcelona) for the first time last year... it was amazing. Hopefully I'll get a chance to go again some time.
Nice places for sure. Spain is a nice place for tourists...
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Mrs. Wife has not come this time. But even without her it's been amazing and incredible. Now driving back home with my parents and willing to see it on tv. Let's see if it helps us to be able to vote this november the 9th. I'm curious: have you seen or heard something about it? Some pictures you can see on Internet: 1[^] 2[^] Each stripe of the "human flag" was made of 4 people lines, there were the
Funny, I thought your celebration was on the 23rd of June.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]
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Funny, I thought your celebration was on the 23rd of June.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]
Not 23 but 24, the 23th of Juny is when we get drunk, jump on fire, dance... :rolleyes:
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Not 23 but 24, the 23th of Juny is when we get drunk, jump on fire, dance... :rolleyes:
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If you get drunk, jump on fire, dance on the 23rd I wonder what you celebrate on the 24th? Being alive?
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Haven't you heard about it then? Where are you from?
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The UK. So whats goin on in Barcelona then?
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The UK. So whats goin on in Barcelona then?
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See again my original post and you will be able to see a couple of pictures from one newspaper. We were celebrating the national catalan day, and after 300 years of having been in Spain we want to vote this 9th of November to be out of Spain and to become another European membre State. We made 11 kilometers of human flag in a V shape (see Churchill sign) in two of the biggest streets of Barcelona (see the pictures), it was really exciting seeing all kind of catalan people having a celebration like that with Castells, music,... it was around 1.800.000 people out in Barcelona at the same time in those two streets. It was really nice to see, even apart of the political meaning, it was impressive in terms of numbers. As it's been this amount of people and it's being said that it is one of the biggest concentrations of all times, I was curious of where in the world this has been seen, therefore the question here... :cool:
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If you get drunk, jump on fire, dance on the 23rd I wonder what you celebrate on the 24th? Being alive?
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]
Almost! :laugh: Nah, 24 it's saint John, therefore my celebration, and the 23rd it's the solstice (+/-) and it's considered a witches and magic night :rolleyes: (maybe this is for the alcohol).
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How are things in Barcelona?
Look, see my original post, there you will see a couple of links to pictures on one newspaper. :cool:
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See again my original post and you will be able to see a couple of pictures from one newspaper. We were celebrating the national catalan day, and after 300 years of having been in Spain we want to vote this 9th of November to be out of Spain and to become another European membre State. We made 11 kilometers of human flag in a V shape (see Churchill sign) in two of the biggest streets of Barcelona (see the pictures), it was really exciting seeing all kind of catalan people having a celebration like that with Castells, music,... it was around 1.800.000 people out in Barcelona at the same time in those two streets. It was really nice to see, even apart of the political meaning, it was impressive in terms of numbers. As it's been this amount of people and it's being said that it is one of the biggest concentrations of all times, I was curious of where in the world this has been seen, therefore the question here... :cool:
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Joan Murt wrote:
we want to vote this 9th of November to be out of Spain and to become another European membre State.
Interesting, I thought it was only the UK that was suffering this. Isnt Catalonia so independent anyway that it virtually is a seperate state?
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Joan Murt wrote:
we want to vote this 9th of November to be out of Spain and to become another European membre State.
Interesting, I thought it was only the UK that was suffering this. Isnt Catalonia so independent anyway that it virtually is a seperate state?
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
Isnt Catalonia so independent anyway that it virtually is a seperate state
Not at all, Catalans have our own language (even all of us know to speak in Spanish), We've always have got our schools in Catalan (and we've got the Spanish subject). Now they are forcing schools to make everything in Spanish and forget Catalan if only one student asks to study in Spanish... The other option is to put that guy/girl that wants to study in Spanish into a private center and make all the Catalan contributors to pay for it. Apart of all the economical disparities that exist from different parts of Spain... If we would leave them we would be for sure much more richer... This is The Lounge and it is not the right place for politics (and the original post was not intended to explain anything about it, it was more an attempt to see how many people did know anything about it). In Valencia where people have always spoken Valencian (a really similar to Catalan language) they have schools that make all the subjects in Spanish... Seeing that "strange" Catalan situation some Valencian families have asked to get their children educated in Valencian... You can't imagine the answer of our Spanish politicians... They've told that this can't be done only for one or two families... Well in Catalonia last year only 17 families asked to get their children educated in Spanish... Those and a lot other reasons make 1,8 million of people to go out on the streets to ask for a possibility to vote. Don't know the Scots reasons, at least saying you belong to the UK can make the UKers proud of it as it is a great country, being Spanish is a lot of things but, usually, when I travel around and take planes I try to say I'm Catalan or at least to not make a lot of noise to be unseen... X|
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
Isnt Catalonia so independent anyway that it virtually is a seperate state
Not at all, Catalans have our own language (even all of us know to speak in Spanish), We've always have got our schools in Catalan (and we've got the Spanish subject). Now they are forcing schools to make everything in Spanish and forget Catalan if only one student asks to study in Spanish... The other option is to put that guy/girl that wants to study in Spanish into a private center and make all the Catalan contributors to pay for it. Apart of all the economical disparities that exist from different parts of Spain... If we would leave them we would be for sure much more richer... This is The Lounge and it is not the right place for politics (and the original post was not intended to explain anything about it, it was more an attempt to see how many people did know anything about it). In Valencia where people have always spoken Valencian (a really similar to Catalan language) they have schools that make all the subjects in Spanish... Seeing that "strange" Catalan situation some Valencian families have asked to get their children educated in Valencian... You can't imagine the answer of our Spanish politicians... They've told that this can't be done only for one or two families... Well in Catalonia last year only 17 families asked to get their children educated in Spanish... Those and a lot other reasons make 1,8 million of people to go out on the streets to ask for a possibility to vote. Don't know the Scots reasons, at least saying you belong to the UK can make the UKers proud of it as it is a great country, being Spanish is a lot of things but, usually, when I travel around and take planes I try to say I'm Catalan or at least to not make a lot of noise to be unseen... X|
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Do you have local control of taxation, spending etc in Catalonia?
Joan Murt wrote:
at least saying you belong to the UK can make the UKers proud of it as it is a great country
Why do you say the UK is great? I would like to know how you see it since as a UK native I have a probably more jaded view of the place.
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Do you have local control of taxation, spending etc in Catalonia?
Joan Murt wrote:
at least saying you belong to the UK can make the UKers proud of it as it is a great country
Why do you say the UK is great? I would like to know how you see it since as a UK native I have a probably more jaded view of the place.
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
Do you have local control of taxation, spending etc in Catalonia?
No, our taxes go to Madrid, they divide them and at the end we end up loosing a 40% of what we paid... In some parts of Spain there are policies that could have been nice years ago but that nowadays they are terrible: On a travel to Paris, I met a couple from Seville, he worked on the construction a normal set of hours. She had an agreement with three other girls and with her boss: she worked only 1/4 of the year... the other 3/4 were for her 3 colleagues. In south of Spain if they work 1/4 of the year the other 3/4 parts are covered by an automatic subside... That was done to allow the farmers to live due to the kind of cereals they planted, but this is a really extended way to trick the system. The problem is big once this is done extensively in the south... in Extremadura there's a lot of people that earn money by going to adult school to learn a profession... I dated an Extremadura girl years ago who lived near Girona (Catalonia), once we met a neighbor of her parent's house in Extremadura... she was learning how to become a plasterer... before she was learning to be a carpenter... and so on... that is another way to waste public money by not working and waiting for everything to come "for free". Nobody is using them but if you visit Extremadura you will see the best roads in Spain... and all of them for free... ours cost us money... X| Sorry, too much politics here...
Munchies_Matt wrote:
Why do you say the UK is great? I would like to know how you see it since as a UK native I have a probably more jaded view of the place.
Great music, great whiskey, great films, great cars (Rolls, Bentley, Jaguar, Lotus,...), you don't have to hide each time Ana Botella or any other important political or not person tries to speak in English to drink a "Café con leche in the plaza mayor"... We are the best in terms of unemployment... X| X| X| Just compare: http://country-facts.findthebest.com/compare/28-131/United-Kingdom-vs-Spain[^]... I've been only once in the UK... the things that surprised me a lot were: - Carpet everywere... even under water piles! - Two taps on water pil
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
Do you have local control of taxation, spending etc in Catalonia?
No, our taxes go to Madrid, they divide them and at the end we end up loosing a 40% of what we paid... In some parts of Spain there are policies that could have been nice years ago but that nowadays they are terrible: On a travel to Paris, I met a couple from Seville, he worked on the construction a normal set of hours. She had an agreement with three other girls and with her boss: she worked only 1/4 of the year... the other 3/4 were for her 3 colleagues. In south of Spain if they work 1/4 of the year the other 3/4 parts are covered by an automatic subside... That was done to allow the farmers to live due to the kind of cereals they planted, but this is a really extended way to trick the system. The problem is big once this is done extensively in the south... in Extremadura there's a lot of people that earn money by going to adult school to learn a profession... I dated an Extremadura girl years ago who lived near Girona (Catalonia), once we met a neighbor of her parent's house in Extremadura... she was learning how to become a plasterer... before she was learning to be a carpenter... and so on... that is another way to waste public money by not working and waiting for everything to come "for free". Nobody is using them but if you visit Extremadura you will see the best roads in Spain... and all of them for free... ours cost us money... X| Sorry, too much politics here...
Munchies_Matt wrote:
Why do you say the UK is great? I would like to know how you see it since as a UK native I have a probably more jaded view of the place.
Great music, great whiskey, great films, great cars (Rolls, Bentley, Jaguar, Lotus,...), you don't have to hide each time Ana Botella or any other important political or not person tries to speak in English to drink a "Café con leche in the plaza mayor"... We are the best in terms of unemployment... X| X| X| Just compare: http://country-facts.findthebest.com/compare/28-131/United-Kingdom-vs-Spain[^]... I've been only once in the UK... the things that surprised me a lot were: - Carpet everywere... even under water piles! - Two taps on water pil
Joan Murt wrote:
we end up loosing a 40% of what we paid
Thats going to create a big drive for independence. The situation where you get paid for doing a 1/4 of a year is madness! Dear oh dear, not surprised the country is bust! THe UK is distinctive, thats for sure. THe paint I think is just from having it redone every year, for centuries. :) Carpets, yes, everywhere. Byt we live in bare footed warm confort all year, none of that hard tiles stuff! The music is good, actually, its incredibly good, so far better than anything else in the world its almost embarassingly good. And I have no idea why the UK has been so good at music for so long. Its just somethign we seem to do very well. Breakfast though, come on, thats a REAL breakfast! IF you ever go skiing, or mountaineering, eat a breakfast lilke that, it will keep you going all day. :) Our hotels can be crappy though, there is a lot of old stuff in the UK, old and worn out, but I suppose it is picturesque too. (By the way it is 'pipes' not 'piles' Piles is sonethig you get on your arse from sitting on cold stone. :) ) I love the costa brava though, I live just north of MArseille, so its not far and we often go there. I love the food, and the easy going non pretentious Cataln way of doing things. Zarzuela! My favourite dish! :) I dont know why Catalunia isnt way more built up. You have great weather, great coastline, two superb airports, and great skiing just inland. It has everything the French Riviera has. If I wanted to set up a business I would put it in Catalunia. Its got everything,
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
Do you have local control of taxation, spending etc in Catalonia?
No, our taxes go to Madrid, they divide them and at the end we end up loosing a 40% of what we paid... In some parts of Spain there are policies that could have been nice years ago but that nowadays they are terrible: On a travel to Paris, I met a couple from Seville, he worked on the construction a normal set of hours. She had an agreement with three other girls and with her boss: she worked only 1/4 of the year... the other 3/4 were for her 3 colleagues. In south of Spain if they work 1/4 of the year the other 3/4 parts are covered by an automatic subside... That was done to allow the farmers to live due to the kind of cereals they planted, but this is a really extended way to trick the system. The problem is big once this is done extensively in the south... in Extremadura there's a lot of people that earn money by going to adult school to learn a profession... I dated an Extremadura girl years ago who lived near Girona (Catalonia), once we met a neighbor of her parent's house in Extremadura... she was learning how to become a plasterer... before she was learning to be a carpenter... and so on... that is another way to waste public money by not working and waiting for everything to come "for free". Nobody is using them but if you visit Extremadura you will see the best roads in Spain... and all of them for free... ours cost us money... X| Sorry, too much politics here...
Munchies_Matt wrote:
Why do you say the UK is great? I would like to know how you see it since as a UK native I have a probably more jaded view of the place.
Great music, great whiskey, great films, great cars (Rolls, Bentley, Jaguar, Lotus,...), you don't have to hide each time Ana Botella or any other important political or not person tries to speak in English to drink a "Café con leche in the plaza mayor"... We are the best in terms of unemployment... X| X| X| Just compare: http://country-facts.findthebest.com/compare/28-131/United-Kingdom-vs-Spain[^]... I've been only once in the UK... the things that surprised me a lot were: - Carpet everywere... even under water piles! - Two taps on water pil
Damn, the Spanish birth rate is very low! How will you maintain the populaiton, it must be shrinking rapidly!
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Damn, the Spanish birth rate is very low! How will you maintain the populaiton, it must be shrinking rapidly!
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Don't ask that please... don't ask that... imagine my wife reads that! :laugh: Given the fact we have almost a 25% of unemployment is not strange seeing that nobody wants to have children...
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Joan Murt wrote:
we end up loosing a 40% of what we paid
Thats going to create a big drive for independence. The situation where you get paid for doing a 1/4 of a year is madness! Dear oh dear, not surprised the country is bust! THe UK is distinctive, thats for sure. THe paint I think is just from having it redone every year, for centuries. :) Carpets, yes, everywhere. Byt we live in bare footed warm confort all year, none of that hard tiles stuff! The music is good, actually, its incredibly good, so far better than anything else in the world its almost embarassingly good. And I have no idea why the UK has been so good at music for so long. Its just somethign we seem to do very well. Breakfast though, come on, thats a REAL breakfast! IF you ever go skiing, or mountaineering, eat a breakfast lilke that, it will keep you going all day. :) Our hotels can be crappy though, there is a lot of old stuff in the UK, old and worn out, but I suppose it is picturesque too. (By the way it is 'pipes' not 'piles' Piles is sonethig you get on your arse from sitting on cold stone. :) ) I love the costa brava though, I live just north of MArseille, so its not far and we often go there. I love the food, and the easy going non pretentious Cataln way of doing things. Zarzuela! My favourite dish! :) I dont know why Catalunia isnt way more built up. You have great weather, great coastline, two superb airports, and great skiing just inland. It has everything the French Riviera has. If I wanted to set up a business I would put it in Catalunia. Its got everything,
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
Thats going to create a big drive for independence. The situation where you get paid for doing a 1/4 of a year is madness! Dear oh dear, not surprised the country is bust!
That's one of the amounts of reasons that have made 1.8 million people to go out on the streets for three consecutive years, two years ago a big demonstration was done, one year ago we made a chain of people across all the seaside of Catalonia, and this year we've made this big flag made of people... I had not seen it from the air since yesterday evening, this is why I've added pictures and a small video today to the original post, but it was amazing. I think you are not making justice to your music with that statements... it has no sense naming groups... hats off and nothing else. I would say that your breakfast can hold a man for one entire week... I'm a Sissie it's clear... :laugh: That hotel was so so at it's best... but not all of them will be that way for sure. I entered one that it was completely bended... old not the next thing, but it was curious to see... even the stairs were so bended it was difficult to go up and down... Costa brava is a really nice place if you avoid Lloret de Mar where all the tourists that love drinking go. Oil and all related to the Mediterranean way of making food helps and trust me I would live of "pa amb tomàquet" (bread with tomato), but Zarzuela is not bad :laugh: Catalans work a lot but not a lot of money stays here then I suppose people who start a new business in Spain see that and decide to go to any other place... :sigh:
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
Thats going to create a big drive for independence. The situation where you get paid for doing a 1/4 of a year is madness! Dear oh dear, not surprised the country is bust!
That's one of the amounts of reasons that have made 1.8 million people to go out on the streets for three consecutive years, two years ago a big demonstration was done, one year ago we made a chain of people across all the seaside of Catalonia, and this year we've made this big flag made of people... I had not seen it from the air since yesterday evening, this is why I've added pictures and a small video today to the original post, but it was amazing. I think you are not making justice to your music with that statements... it has no sense naming groups... hats off and nothing else. I would say that your breakfast can hold a man for one entire week... I'm a Sissie it's clear... :laugh: That hotel was so so at it's best... but not all of them will be that way for sure. I entered one that it was completely bended... old not the next thing, but it was curious to see... even the stairs were so bended it was difficult to go up and down... Costa brava is a really nice place if you avoid Lloret de Mar where all the tourists that love drinking go. Oil and all related to the Mediterranean way of making food helps and trust me I would live of "pa amb tomàquet" (bread with tomato), but Zarzuela is not bad :laugh: Catalans work a lot but not a lot of money stays here then I suppose people who start a new business in Spain see that and decide to go to any other place... :sigh:
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If the benefits and taxes were reduced and labour laws changed so companies can hire and fire people, like in the US and UK, you get far more dynamic and productive economies. Look at the UK today, it has the best ecconomy in the world. Two years ago it was in the shit. Thats what a dynamic ecconomy can do, it can respond to changes in the market and adapt. It could be incredible, Catalunia, if it could do the same as the UK,
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