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  • I Ian Shlasko

    Don't think of them as bad and good... Think of them as Beta and RTM. Windows Vista was a Beta product, and Windows 7 was the RTM version. Windows 8 is the next Beta, and Windows 9 will be the RTM. Microsoft has just gotten a little confused in recent years... They can't tell the difference between an end user and a beta tester anymore.

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    Tomz_KV
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    So we'll never have a real Windows. :laugh:

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      Tomz_KV wrote:

      ot as positive as Windows 7

      Windows 7 and Xp were almost identical. Win8 would also have had a great reception if it had been a clone of Win7. People demand new but do not like changes, that's it.

      ~RaGE();

      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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      Interesting enough that Microsoft likes to change graphic interface drastically more than the functionality.

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        For Microsoft's sake, I damn well hope so... :sigh:

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        Even 5 years ago, no one would expect to see today's Microsoft.

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        • I Ian Shlasko

          Don't think of them as bad and good... Think of them as Beta and RTM. Windows Vista was a Beta product, and Windows 7 was the RTM version. Windows 8 is the next Beta, and Windows 9 will be the RTM. Microsoft has just gotten a little confused in recent years... They can't tell the difference between an end user and a beta tester anymore.

          Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
          Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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          JimmyRopes
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          Ian Shlasko wrote:

          [Micro$oft] can't could never tell the difference between an end user and a beta tester anymore ever.

          FTFY :-D

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          I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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          • T Tomz_KV

            Interesting enough that Microsoft likes to change graphic interface drastically more than the functionality.

            TOMZ_KV

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            Rage
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            What pleases the eye...

            ~RaGE();

            I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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            • T Tomz_KV

              Remember the frustration created by Windows Vista? Windows 7 saved the day. The user experience of Windows 8 may not be as bad as Vista but is not as positive as Windows 7 either. Is Windows 9 going to save the day?

              TOMZ_KV

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              Maximilien
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              Windows is and never will be a finished product. It always evolves; but never in a straight line; sometimes it backtrack or sidesteps.

              I'd rather be phishing!

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                Even 5 years ago, no one would expect to see today's Microsoft.

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                What running around madly like a headless chicken with little or no idea of what it's going to do about the competition? No, you're probably right.

                Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                • I Ian Shlasko

                  Don't think of them as bad and good... Think of them as Beta and RTM. Windows Vista was a Beta product, and Windows 7 was the RTM version. Windows 8 is the next Beta, and Windows 9 will be the RTM. Microsoft has just gotten a little confused in recent years... They can't tell the difference between an end user and a beta tester anymore.

                  Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                  Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                  Jorgen Andersson
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                  How do you define recent years? To me it seems that they have always done that.

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                    Windows is and never will be a finished product. It always evolves; but never in a straight line; sometimes it backtrack or sidesteps.

                    I'd rather be phishing!

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                    Lost User
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                    It also does the hokey-pokey. All while you shower it with $$$$$.

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                      How do you define recent years? To me it seems that they have always done that.

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                      Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                      How do you define recent years?
                      To me it seems that they have always done that.

                      Yes they have. :suss:

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                      I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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                        It also does the hokey-pokey. All while you shower it with $$$$$.

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                        great business model!!! :rolleyes:

                        I'd rather be phishing!

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                          Tomz_KV wrote:

                          ot as positive as Windows 7

                          Windows 7 and Xp were almost identical. Win8 would also have had a great reception if it had been a clone of Win7. People demand new but do not like changes, that's it.

                          ~RaGE();

                          I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                          People usually don't demand very much at all. Mickeysoft usually tries to tell everybody what they should demand so that they have a reason to release a new version.

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                          • T Tomz_KV

                            Remember the frustration created by Windows Vista? Windows 7 saved the day. The user experience of Windows 8 may not be as bad as Vista but is not as positive as Windows 7 either. Is Windows 9 going to save the day?

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                            Vark111
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                            This has been their history all along.

                            Bad Good
                            95 98
                            2000/ME XP
                            Vista 7
                            8 9?

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                              This has been their history all along.

                              Bad Good
                              95 98
                              2000/ME XP
                              Vista 7
                              8 9?

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                              glennPattonWork3
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                              A little correction Win2000 was (is, still have to use certain things that don't work XP or later) Good it was the bug fixed Windows NT, ME was awful....

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                                This has been their history all along.

                                Bad Good
                                95 98
                                2000/ME XP
                                Vista 7
                                8 9?

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                                Following this pattern, Windows 9 is good.

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                                  great business model!!! :rolleyes:

                                  I'd rather be phishing!

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                                  Tomz_KV
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                                  User training business will benefit from it.

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                                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                    What running around madly like a headless chicken with little or no idea of what it's going to do about the competition? No, you're probably right.

                                    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                    Tomz_KV
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                                    It is a historic moment for Microsoft shifting from software to devices & services. Windows phone has not been doing well so far. Apple experienced the transition years ago and did well.

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                                      It is a historic moment for Microsoft shifting from software to devices & services. Windows phone has not been doing well so far. Apple experienced the transition years ago and did well.

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                                      I can see where they would want to: but they made the usual MS mistake of ignoring existing users. If they had run "devices" and "software" as separate divisions instead of trying to force incompatible environments together into one it could all have been very different. And probably a lot more successful.

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                                        Interesting enough that Microsoft likes to change graphic interface drastically more than the functionality.

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                                        PIEBALDconsult
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                                        Exactly; improvements to the underlying kernel and such should not require such a change in the Interface. I'd prefer the Windows 3 Interface on top of the current Operating System -- combining the two (OS and UI) is not a good idea (in my opinion).

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                                          Exactly; improvements to the underlying kernel and such should not require such a change in the Interface. I'd prefer the Windows 3 Interface on top of the current Operating System -- combining the two (OS and UI) is not a good idea (in my opinion).

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                                          Tomz_KV
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                                          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                          Exactly; improvements to the underlying kernel and such should not require such a change in the Interface.

                                          Everyone sees it but Microsoft. Hard to believe.

                                          TOMZ_KV

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