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RyanDev wrote:
how did life get started. Can you answer that?
No, I can't. And it's a very good question. However, "god done it" is not an answer. It's a cop-out.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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Richard Deeming wrote:
No, I can't. And it's a very good question.
Then you prove my point.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
RyanDev wrote:
Then you prove my point.
How? :confused: As I read it, your point was that "creationism and evolution have the same amount of evidence" (ie: none). I pointed you to one of many links discussing the evidence supporting evolution. You responded by asking me whether evolution could answer a question which it doesn't even attempt to answer. How does that then prove that the evidence for evolution doesn't exist?
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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RyanDev wrote:
Then you prove my point.
How? :confused: As I read it, your point was that "creationism and evolution have the same amount of evidence" (ie: none). I pointed you to one of many links discussing the evidence supporting evolution. You responded by asking me whether evolution could answer a question which it doesn't even attempt to answer. How does that then prove that the evidence for evolution doesn't exist?
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
Richard Deeming wrote:
"creationism and evolution have the same amount of evidence" (ie: none).
What? You're saying I think there is no evidence to support creationism or to support evolution? OK. I'm done with you. You keep making things up. It's impossible to get anywhere with you because I constantly have to keep correcting your viewpoints about me.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Richard Deeming wrote:
Because you've made it quite clear that you don't.
Except for the fact that every reason you gave for why you feel I don't understand it was pure rubbish. So, do you have anything else?
Richard Deeming wrote:
Science isn't taught in church, so why should anyone put up with attempts to teach religion in a science lesson?
Totally off topic but I'll bite. Who is trying to teach religion in science?
Richard Deeming wrote:
you'd have noticed that I made no mention of church schools.
I know. I mentioned it. Did you miss that somehow?
Richard Deeming wrote:
I'm not the one who's trying to argue that science and religion are the same thing.
OK. :^) I've never heard anyone try to claim they were. So, do you have any points or are you just going to keep showing how you don't have a clue about anything I say? Your bigotry is starting to show through. You make false claims about what I said or what I believe. Or perhaps just a troll? :^)
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
RyanDev wrote:
Except for the fact that every reason you gave for why you feel I don't understand it was pure rubbish.
As you have repeatedly stated, you feel that scientific theories are just a belief system with no supporting evidence. As anyone with half a brain could discover with 10 minutes of research, that's utter nonsense. Therefore, one of two things is true: either you don't understand what the word "theory" means in a scientific context; or you're deliberately posting ludicrous statements in an attempt to troll this forum. I chose to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume the former explanation was correct. Am I wrong?
RyanDev wrote:
Totally off topic but I'll bite. Who is trying to teach religion in science?
Did you even read the link from the first message in this thread?
42,000 Schools in India Will Soon Teach That Stem Cell Research, Cars, and TVs Were Inspired by Ancient Texts[^]
Published by the Gujarat State School Textbook Board (GSSTB), the book seeks to teach children "facts" about history, science, geography, religion and other "basics".
The "facts" in this book all state that various scientific discoveries were based on religious teachings rather than science.
RyanDev wrote:
I know. I mentioned it. Did you miss that somehow?
No, I didn't miss your blatant attempt to derail this conversation by pretending that I'd said something that I didn't.
RyanDev wrote:
I've never heard anyone try to claim they were.
You obviously don't listen to yourself.
RyanDev wrote:
are you just going to keep showing how you don't have a clue about anything I say? Your bigotry is starting to show through.
Ad-hominem attacks now? What a surprise. X|
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RyanDev wrote:
Except for the fact that every reason you gave for why you feel I don't understand it was pure rubbish.
As you have repeatedly stated, you feel that scientific theories are just a belief system with no supporting evidence. As anyone with half a brain could discover with 10 minutes of research, that's utter nonsense. Therefore, one of two things is true: either you don't understand what the word "theory" means in a scientific context; or you're deliberately posting ludicrous statements in an attempt to troll this forum. I chose to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume the former explanation was correct. Am I wrong?
RyanDev wrote:
Totally off topic but I'll bite. Who is trying to teach religion in science?
Did you even read the link from the first message in this thread?
42,000 Schools in India Will Soon Teach That Stem Cell Research, Cars, and TVs Were Inspired by Ancient Texts[^]
Published by the Gujarat State School Textbook Board (GSSTB), the book seeks to teach children "facts" about history, science, geography, religion and other "basics".
The "facts" in this book all state that various scientific discoveries were based on religious teachings rather than science.
RyanDev wrote:
I know. I mentioned it. Did you miss that somehow?
No, I didn't miss your blatant attempt to derail this conversation by pretending that I'd said something that I didn't.
RyanDev wrote:
I've never heard anyone try to claim they were.
You obviously don't listen to yourself.
RyanDev wrote:
are you just going to keep showing how you don't have a clue about anything I say? Your bigotry is starting to show through.
Ad-hominem attacks now? What a surprise. X|
Richard Deeming wrote:
As you have repeatedly stated, you feel that scientific theories are just a belief system with no supporting evidence.
I've never said that. :zzz:
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Richard Deeming wrote:
"creationism and evolution have the same amount of evidence" (ie: none).
What? You're saying I think there is no evidence to support creationism or to support evolution? OK. I'm done with you. You keep making things up. It's impossible to get anywhere with you because I constantly have to keep correcting your viewpoints about me.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
RyanDev wrote:
You're saying I think there is no evidence to support creationism or to support evolution? ... You keep making things up.
Making things up? :mad:
RyanDev wrote:
Creationism has as much evidence to support it as Darwin's theory.
That is a direct quote from your previous post. Are you going to deny that you wrote that? And since creationism has precisely zero scientific evidence to support it, then you're clearly claiming that Darwin's theory of natural selection also has no supporting scientific evidence.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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Richard Deeming wrote:
As you have repeatedly stated, you feel that scientific theories are just a belief system with no supporting evidence.
I've never said that. :zzz:
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
OK, fine. I'll revise my former opinion, and assume that you are a troll.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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RyanDev wrote:
You're saying I think there is no evidence to support creationism or to support evolution? ... You keep making things up.
Making things up? :mad:
RyanDev wrote:
Creationism has as much evidence to support it as Darwin's theory.
That is a direct quote from your previous post. Are you going to deny that you wrote that? And since creationism has precisely zero scientific evidence to support it, then you're clearly claiming that Darwin's theory of natural selection also has no supporting scientific evidence.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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OK, fine. I'll revise my former opinion, and assume that you are a troll.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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Richard Deeming wrote:
And since creationism has precisely zero scientific evidence to support it,
Oh dear. :rolleyes:
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Go on then; I'll bite. What rigorous scientific evidence do you have to support your medieval creation story?
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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Go on then; I'll bite. What rigorous scientific evidence do you have to support your medieval creation story?
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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Richard Deeming wrote:
What rigorous scientific evidence do you have to support your medieval creation story?
Troll.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
OK, if you don't like the word referring to the Middle Ages: What rigorous scientific evidence do you have to support your ancient / archaic / Stone-Age / really bloody old (delete as appropriate) creation story? And, indeed, which creation story[^] do you support?
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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Sure it does. Where the Darwin theory has no answer is how did life get started. It picks up at the point of there being life but how did life get started. Can you answer that?
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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OK, if you don't like the word referring to the Middle Ages: What rigorous scientific evidence do you have to support your ancient / archaic / Stone-Age / really bloody old (delete as appropriate) creation story? And, indeed, which creation story[^] do you support?
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
not worth it - Ryan believes fossils were planted by some alien and all humans lived on another planet before deciding to pop down to Earth (I apologise unreservedly if I have misunderstood his previous posts). he argues that because you can't prove something to be untrue, it's reasonable to believe it Next he'll be saying that VB 6 is a great programming language and Silverlight is the way of the future!
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where fiction is taught as fact and mythical beliefs override what academic scholars say.
We've always taught scientific theories in school. There's a reason theories are still theories, they aren't facts, at least not as far as we know.
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RyanDev wrote:
they aren't facts, at least not as far as we know.
You actually have that the wrong way around. A scientific theory is a fact as far as we know. In fact, that's a very good, succinct, definition of a scientific theory!
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RyanDev wrote:
they aren't facts, at least not as far as we know.
You actually have that the wrong way around. A scientific theory is a fact as far as we know. In fact, that's a very good, succinct, definition of a scientific theory!
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theory = fact? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Pretty much, yes, in a scientific sense. This is what you don't seem to grasp. wikipedia defines it thus:
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A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation.
So, it is a fact 'as far as we know'. The only reason we use the term 'theory' is that we are being realistic enough to see that there may be information available in the future that means a test/observation or experiment shows some flaw in the theory; at that point the theory is either thrown in teh bin or, more likely modified to take into account that new information - and so, to all intents and purposes, becomes fact. what part of this do you fail to understand - because I am sure it has been explained to you many times before
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Pretty much, yes, in a scientific sense. This is what you don't seem to grasp. wikipedia defines it thus:
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A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation.
So, it is a fact 'as far as we know'. The only reason we use the term 'theory' is that we are being realistic enough to see that there may be information available in the future that means a test/observation or experiment shows some flaw in the theory; at that point the theory is either thrown in teh bin or, more likely modified to take into account that new information - and so, to all intents and purposes, becomes fact. what part of this do you fail to understand - because I am sure it has been explained to you many times before
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_Maxxx_ wrote:
what part of this do you fail to understand - because I am sure it has been explained to you many times before
Not a single bit of it. Have known this since I was a wee lad. Now, for the part you do not understand. Fact is truth. It doesn't change. :doh:
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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_Maxxx_ wrote:
what part of this do you fail to understand - because I am sure it has been explained to you many times before
Not a single bit of it. Have known this since I was a wee lad. Now, for the part you do not understand. Fact is truth. It doesn't change. :doh:
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
RyanDev wrote:
Now, for the part you do not understand. Fact is truth. It doesn't change. :doh:
so, if a fact is truth, and a scientific theory is a fact (as far as we know) then you are saying that a scientific theory is truth! Well Done! I knew we'd get there eventually.
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RyanDev wrote:
Now, for the part you do not understand. Fact is truth. It doesn't change. :doh:
so, if a fact is truth, and a scientific theory is a fact (as far as we know) then you are saying that a scientific theory is truth! Well Done! I knew we'd get there eventually.
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This one's not too bright Jimmy. :doh: So, using your example of smells transmitting disease, you are saying that 100 years ago it would have been a fact and today it is not a fact. Good thing you aren't trying to be serious because if you were.... well, ya.
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