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  • G glennPattonPub

    Hi All, I keep getting certain agents asking for some documents like passport, birth certificate, dental records before they will submit my application, as it standard practise...however most seem happy with a CV and my assurance that they will be supplied when needed. Is it me, or does the agent that needs them sound a bit 'odd' I think these particular documents could be used for ID theft?... Or am I being paranoid :confused:

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    As far as I am aware, Our parent company request photo drivers licence or Passport for new applicants so that thay can be certain that you are legally allowed to work in the UK.

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      A UK thing maybe?

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      I think that may have been him lapsing into ironic exaggeration to hammer home his point of excessive identification requirements.

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      • G glennPattonPub

        Hi All, I keep getting certain agents asking for some documents like passport, birth certificate, dental records before they will submit my application, as it standard practise...however most seem happy with a CV and my assurance that they will be supplied when needed. Is it me, or does the agent that needs them sound a bit 'odd' I think these particular documents could be used for ID theft?... Or am I being paranoid :confused:

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        RaviBee
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        Looks like they want to ensure you're legally able to work in the client's jurisdiction, which seems par for the course. The same thing happens in the US/Canada, although the check is a simple question (to which you have to answer truthfully).  However, physical proof is required before the offer of employment is sealed.  In most companies, the employee/contractor onboarding process also requires that you agree that a background check will be done on you, and the employment agreement may be terminated based on the result of the check.  Many employers will also refuse to hire you if you've ever been convicted of a felony. /ravi

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        • I Ian Shlasko

          glennPattonPUB wrote:

          I keep getting certain agents asking for some documents like passport, birth certificate, dental records before they will submit my application, as it standard practise

          Creepy... Why would they want your dental records? Are they planning on faking your death? Because that sounds like a completely different industry.

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          RaviBee
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          Ian Shlasko wrote:

          Why would they want your dental records?

          Literary license, methinks. :) /ravi

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            A UK thing maybe?

            There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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            Big Daddy Farang
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            Wouldn't there be a lot of people in the UK who don't have dental records? I may be confused about that.

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              Wouldn't there be a lot of people in the UK who don't have dental records? I may be confused about that.

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              Big Daddy Farang wrote:

              Wouldn't there be a lot of people in the UK who don't have dental records?

              Just because they don't have teeth doesn't mean they don't have dental records. :-D Perhaps in the UK you carry them with you. :^)

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                Big Daddy Farang wrote:

                Wouldn't there be a lot of people in the UK who don't have dental records?

                Just because they don't have teeth doesn't mean they don't have dental records. :-D Perhaps in the UK you carry them with you. :^)

                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                Big Daddy Farang
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                Perhaps, but I think it's more like what chriselst (aka Captain Obvious) suggested.

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                  Perhaps, but I think it's more like what chriselst (aka Captain Obvious) suggested.

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                  Yes, this whole thread is tongue-in-cheek. :-\

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                    Ian Shlasko wrote:

                    Why would they want your dental records?

                    Literary license, methinks. :) /ravi

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                    Ian Shlasko
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                    But that's not nearly as funny :)

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                      Yes, this whole thread is tongue-in-cheek. :-\

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                      That would be aided by the whole lack of teeth thing.

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                        chriselst wrote:

                        My wife

                        Thank you for referring to her that way instead of using "herself." I don't know why but it annoys me when people refer to their wife here as "herself." :mad: "Herself went to the store..." See, it is terrible. OK, I'm good. Carry on. :^)

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                        What about "She who must be obeyed"

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                        • Z ZurdoDev

                          Big Daddy Farang wrote:

                          Wouldn't there be a lot of people in the UK who don't have dental records?

                          Just because they don't have teeth doesn't mean they don't have dental records. :-D Perhaps in the UK you carry them with you. :^)

                          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                          Carry them? teeth or dental records?

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                            Carry them? teeth or dental records?

                            Jack of all trades, master of none, though often times better than master of one.

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                            ZurdoDev
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                            :laugh: :thumbsup:

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                            • G glennPattonPub

                              Hi All, I keep getting certain agents asking for some documents like passport, birth certificate, dental records before they will submit my application, as it standard practise...however most seem happy with a CV and my assurance that they will be supplied when needed. Is it me, or does the agent that needs them sound a bit 'odd' I think these particular documents could be used for ID theft?... Or am I being paranoid :confused:

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                              No, there is no reason why they should have that information. I had exactly that issue with an agent a few years back who promised me an interview within two days, and then started insisting they needed all sorts of irrelevant information. The interview (I don't believe there ever was one) disappeared into thin air very quickly. My last email to her told her in no uncertain terms that I did not like being lied to - never heard from them again.

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                                No, there is no reason why they should have that information. I had exactly that issue with an agent a few years back who promised me an interview within two days, and then started insisting they needed all sorts of irrelevant information. The interview (I don't believe there ever was one) disappeared into thin air very quickly. My last email to her told her in no uncertain terms that I did not like being lied to - never heard from them again.

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                                glennPattonPub
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                                Hmmm, that what I'm afraid of...I did have the conversation that went "we are sending your details today, but you need to get us the info" it just that it sounds too good a job and the data they want is sufficient for ID theft...

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                                • G glennPattonPub

                                  Hi All, I keep getting certain agents asking for some documents like passport, birth certificate, dental records before they will submit my application, as it standard practise...however most seem happy with a CV and my assurance that they will be supplied when needed. Is it me, or does the agent that needs them sound a bit 'odd' I think these particular documents could be used for ID theft?... Or am I being paranoid :confused:

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                                  R Giskard Reventlov
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                                  I used to get asked for ridiculous things and always replied that should an offer be forthcoming that I was willing to accept then I would be happy to supply whatever they need (although I would have stopped short at dental or any type of medical records). Never give them anything up front and never agree to have your cv/resume sent to an unknown employer - if they can't tell you who it is then it isn't a real job.

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                                  • S Simon_Whale

                                    As far as I am aware, Our parent company request photo drivers licence or Passport for new applicants so that thay can be certain that you are legally allowed to work in the UK.

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                                    I've got the line "I'm legally allowed to work in the Netherlands" in my resume. Still, if that is the issue, then that is what should be asked.

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                                    • G glennPattonPub

                                      Hi All, I keep getting certain agents asking for some documents like passport, birth certificate, dental records before they will submit my application, as it standard practise...however most seem happy with a CV and my assurance that they will be supplied when needed. Is it me, or does the agent that needs them sound a bit 'odd' I think these particular documents could be used for ID theft?... Or am I being paranoid :confused:

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                                      Recruiters tend to be aggressive at getting early commitments (I usually give them outrageous salaries) I suspect the reason for asking for proof you are able to work is the number of candidates they have who are either not legally able to work or, in the US, have a sponsorship that perspective employers may not want to bother with. However, passport, birth certificate and medical records is absurd. For those, the answer is "go to hell."

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                                      • G glennPattonPub

                                        Hi All, I keep getting certain agents asking for some documents like passport, birth certificate, dental records before they will submit my application, as it standard practise...however most seem happy with a CV and my assurance that they will be supplied when needed. Is it me, or does the agent that needs them sound a bit 'odd' I think these particular documents could be used for ID theft?... Or am I being paranoid :confused:

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                                        A few years back when AT&T was hiring in the USA, their recruiters insisted that applicants provide a taxpayer ID as part of the application process (eg. before they've even seen your resume). Rumor was they had a list of previously laid-off ex-employees that they did not want hired back.

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                                        • Z ZurdoDev

                                          Big Daddy Farang wrote:

                                          Wouldn't there be a lot of people in the UK who don't have dental records?

                                          Just because they don't have teeth doesn't mean they don't have dental records. :-D Perhaps in the UK you carry them with you. :^)

                                          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                          Dan Neely
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                                          They don't have any dental records for the same reason they don't have any teeth. They've never seen the inside of a dentists office. :doh:

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