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  • S Slacker007

    As in tipping the service staff, be it at a hotel or at a restaurant. I am not a tight-wad with my money, so if you are busting your ass to make my stay at a hotel better, or my experience at a restaurant better, then you will get a nice tip. If the service was poor, then I will speak to the person or their manager about it, but I will still leave them a tip, just not as much as I normally would leave. I never understood why people don't tip, just out of principal. Side note: I recently learned that most establishments in Japan for instance, don't accept tips; its a cultural thing. Your thoughts on this?

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    Pete OHanlon
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    If there is a service charge levied on the bill, I won't tip unless the service charge is removed.

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    • S Slacker007

      As in tipping the service staff, be it at a hotel or at a restaurant. I am not a tight-wad with my money, so if you are busting your ass to make my stay at a hotel better, or my experience at a restaurant better, then you will get a nice tip. If the service was poor, then I will speak to the person or their manager about it, but I will still leave them a tip, just not as much as I normally would leave. I never understood why people don't tip, just out of principal. Side note: I recently learned that most establishments in Japan for instance, don't accept tips; its a cultural thing. Your thoughts on this?

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      Because people are being paid to do a job and the company should be paying the inviduals relative the standard they expect in the hotel/establishment. Some middle/high class hotels do not permit tipping.

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      • S Slacker007

        As in tipping the service staff, be it at a hotel or at a restaurant. I am not a tight-wad with my money, so if you are busting your ass to make my stay at a hotel better, or my experience at a restaurant better, then you will get a nice tip. If the service was poor, then I will speak to the person or their manager about it, but I will still leave them a tip, just not as much as I normally would leave. I never understood why people don't tip, just out of principal. Side note: I recently learned that most establishments in Japan for instance, don't accept tips; its a cultural thing. Your thoughts on this?

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        Definitely a culture thing. There is generally no tipping here in New Zealand as service personnel are paid adequately and not having to rely on tips for their income. This means when Kiwis go overseas we are very lost as to the etiquette and what a good / normal tip for what service is. It makes it rather awkward for us when we go to somewhere like US not knowing who or how much is the norm...

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          Definitely a culture thing. There is generally no tipping here in New Zealand as service personnel are paid adequately and not having to rely on tips for their income. This means when Kiwis go overseas we are very lost as to the etiquette and what a good / normal tip for what service is. It makes it rather awkward for us when we go to somewhere like US not knowing who or how much is the norm...

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          In the US if you don't leave at least 15% they chase you down the road asking for their money.

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            In the US if you don't leave at least 15% they chase you down the road asking for their money.

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            RossMW
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            So does that mean you have to carry a wad of cash around with you? Here most people have no cash on them, just a bit of plastic

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            • S Slacker007

              As in tipping the service staff, be it at a hotel or at a restaurant. I am not a tight-wad with my money, so if you are busting your ass to make my stay at a hotel better, or my experience at a restaurant better, then you will get a nice tip. If the service was poor, then I will speak to the person or their manager about it, but I will still leave them a tip, just not as much as I normally would leave. I never understood why people don't tip, just out of principal. Side note: I recently learned that most establishments in Japan for instance, don't accept tips; its a cultural thing. Your thoughts on this?

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              Joan M
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              No tiping here in Spain (neither in Catalonia)... at least not as it is understood in other countries in which the tip is a specific % of the global cost. Here we give tips only if the service have been special in any sense (a nice detail on the people who served, a good relationship with them...).

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              • S Slacker007

                As in tipping the service staff, be it at a hotel or at a restaurant. I am not a tight-wad with my money, so if you are busting your ass to make my stay at a hotel better, or my experience at a restaurant better, then you will get a nice tip. If the service was poor, then I will speak to the person or their manager about it, but I will still leave them a tip, just not as much as I normally would leave. I never understood why people don't tip, just out of principal. Side note: I recently learned that most establishments in Japan for instance, don't accept tips; its a cultural thing. Your thoughts on this?

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                If you leave a tip in China, they'll run down the road after you to give you the money you'd "forgotten" -- and this is in places where they get paid next to nothing. I always feel ashamed at not being able to demonstrate that I appreciate the effort they put in, but it embarrasses them if you try to make them keep the money, and that's the exact opposite of what I want to do.

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                • S Slacker007

                  As in tipping the service staff, be it at a hotel or at a restaurant. I am not a tight-wad with my money, so if you are busting your ass to make my stay at a hotel better, or my experience at a restaurant better, then you will get a nice tip. If the service was poor, then I will speak to the person or their manager about it, but I will still leave them a tip, just not as much as I normally would leave. I never understood why people don't tip, just out of principal. Side note: I recently learned that most establishments in Japan for instance, don't accept tips; its a cultural thing. Your thoughts on this?

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                  What annoys me is London cabbies expecting a tip. You went via the longest, slowest route you could think of, and you expect me to pay you extra? Go Elephant yourself...

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                  • R RossMW

                    Definitely a culture thing. There is generally no tipping here in New Zealand as service personnel are paid adequately and not having to rely on tips for their income. This means when Kiwis go overseas we are very lost as to the etiquette and what a good / normal tip for what service is. It makes it rather awkward for us when we go to somewhere like US not knowing who or how much is the norm...

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                    RossMW wrote:

                    as service personnel are paid adequately and not having to rely on tips for their income.

                    Here in the states, it is probably either greed or not getting paid adequately. However, when I tip, I don't consciously think about that. I tip purely on the level of service I received. I would like visit New Zealand someday; it is on my life's bucket list.

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                      What annoys me is London cabbies expecting a tip. You went via the longest, slowest route you could think of, and you expect me to pay you extra? Go Elephant yourself...

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                      OriginalGriff wrote:

                      cabbies expecting a tip

                      That annoys me as well. I have seen that happen here in the States, usually in the bigger cities.

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                      • R RossMW

                        Definitely a culture thing. There is generally no tipping here in New Zealand as service personnel are paid adequately and not having to rely on tips for their income. This means when Kiwis go overseas we are very lost as to the etiquette and what a good / normal tip for what service is. It makes it rather awkward for us when we go to somewhere like US not knowing who or how much is the norm...

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                        Conversely, many French waiting staff get nothing unless customers leave tips.

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                        • S Slacker007

                          As in tipping the service staff, be it at a hotel or at a restaurant. I am not a tight-wad with my money, so if you are busting your ass to make my stay at a hotel better, or my experience at a restaurant better, then you will get a nice tip. If the service was poor, then I will speak to the person or their manager about it, but I will still leave them a tip, just not as much as I normally would leave. I never understood why people don't tip, just out of principal. Side note: I recently learned that most establishments in Japan for instance, don't accept tips; its a cultural thing. Your thoughts on this?

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                          dan sh
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                          I guess it is culture thing. I personally feel one is paid to do the job. If he does it good, employer gives raise/promotion. I mean I do not expect the client to give me tips if I write some good code. Here in India, it is your choice. You want to give, you don't it does not matter.

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                            So does that mean you have to carry a wad of cash around with you? Here most people have no cash on them, just a bit of plastic

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                            You can add the tip even when paying by plastic. Hey, we're quite go ahead up here in the northern hemisphere you know. ;P

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                            • S Slacker007

                              RossMW wrote:

                              as service personnel are paid adequately and not having to rely on tips for their income.

                              Here in the states, it is probably either greed or not getting paid adequately. However, when I tip, I don't consciously think about that. I tip purely on the level of service I received. I would like visit New Zealand someday; it is on my life's bucket list.

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                              Everyone's welcome. Only problem with NZ is it a long way to go and conversely a long way for us to get anything (except Aussie, which most NZers are very familiar with)

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                                Conversely, many French waiting staff get nothing unless customers leave tips.

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                                I was told some years ago (by my French colleague), that tipping is no longer expected in France as service is included in the bill.

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                                  I guess it is culture thing. I personally feel one is paid to do the job. If he does it good, employer gives raise/promotion. I mean I do not expect the client to give me tips if I write some good code. Here in India, it is your choice. You want to give, you don't it does not matter.

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                                  d@nish wrote:

                                  I do not expect the client to give me tips if I write some good code.

                                  I used to send them an email saying "Hey, where's my tip dude, that's awesome code in there". Sadly my code never worked properly.

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                                    In the US if you don't leave at least 15% they chase you down the road asking for their money.

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                                    Rob Philpott
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                                    I found that very confusing. Table service is one thing, but if you go up to a bar and get a beer it seems you are still supposed to tip. I suppose some people are better at getting a bottle out the fridge than others. Hey have 15%!

                                    Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                    • S Slacker007

                                      As in tipping the service staff, be it at a hotel or at a restaurant. I am not a tight-wad with my money, so if you are busting your ass to make my stay at a hotel better, or my experience at a restaurant better, then you will get a nice tip. If the service was poor, then I will speak to the person or their manager about it, but I will still leave them a tip, just not as much as I normally would leave. I never understood why people don't tip, just out of principal. Side note: I recently learned that most establishments in Japan for instance, don't accept tips; its a cultural thing. Your thoughts on this?

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                                      Slacker007 wrote:

                                      As in tipping the service staff, be it at a hotel or at a restaurant.

                                      Wait people here get taxed at 15% of their food sales and make very little in wages so depend almost solely on tips so I tip well, ex used to be a hell of a wait person but if they don't do a good job I also don't leave them a good tip. In fact if they are piss poor I leave them a quarter which is an insult, but only had to do that a couple of times.

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                                      • P Pete OHanlon

                                        If there is a service charge levied on the bill, I won't tip unless the service charge is removed.

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                                        Rob Philpott
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                                        I really dislike service charges. One of my favourite restaurants did that one day. The result - it completely lost its edge and the standard of service fell off a cliff. I think the British is general need to be pretty annoyed to ask to have the service charge removed.

                                        Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                          What annoys me is London cabbies expecting a tip. You went via the longest, slowest route you could think of, and you expect me to pay you extra? Go Elephant yourself...

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                                          Rob Philpott
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                                          That's because you were paying tourist rates! Popular myth - black cabs do not go long routes to top up their income. Getting you there as quickly as possible is what its all about, and on to the next job. Jesus, you even get a rant about Ken Livingston thrown in for free - what more do you want?

                                          Regards, Rob Philpott.

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