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  • J Jeremy Falcon

    Mark_Wallace wrote:

    (Xera? Xara? something like that).

    Oh wow, I haven't thought about that app in years! And appearently it's still around: Xara 3D[^]

    Jeremy Falcon

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    Jeremy Falcon wrote:

    Oh wow, I haven't thought about that app in years! And appearently it's still around: Xara 3D[^]

    That's the guy! It was pretty damned cool, in the day. [edit] Holy cr@p! It used to be pretty damned cool and easy to use, but they've made real improvements! But they're not paying me for this, so I'll shut up.

    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      I'm trying to get a 3D graph prepared. I just wasted two days on this app, Graphing Calculator 3D[^] but the author decided on some sort of copy protection or cripple ware or whatever you want to call it. i.e., It makes an excellent graph of Z = f(x,y) but then you can't use that image; e.g., no JPEG, no PNG, in fact, you can't even do a screen print. My motto is: Just say no to any and all such apps. So I came across an app from Microsoft, Mathematics 4.0[^] Before I go wasting another two days on a freeware app that isn't free, can anyone tell me if Microsoft Mathematics will... -1- Generate a good looking graph, Z = f(x,y) -2- Save that image in a file for use by other apps

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      RedDk
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      How about: K3DSurf: Math for fun[^] CIO; might do what you expect it to do.

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        Second glance; uh-oh, learning curve, big time. I want to plug in my Z = f(x,y) equation (which is a bit complex) press a button and see the graph ready for my use. The equation has sums, differences, two levels of division operations, a max, a min, and an abs function vicariously scattered within those operations. Can Octave take an equation and derive the 3D graph with the push of a button ?

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        Matt T Heffron
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        Not quite "push of a button" but the mesh function is what you need. You can try something like this:

        function meshFunction(tx, ty, Z)
        ltx = length(tx);
        lty = length(ty);
        tz = zeros(ltx, lty);
        for xx = 1:ltx
        for yy = 1:lty
        tz(xx,yy) = feval(Z, tx(xx), ty(yy));
        endfor
        endfor
        mesh(tx, ty, tz);
        endfunction

        with

        tx = ty = linspace (-8, 8, 41)’;

        and defining a function "hat":

        function z=hat(x,y)
        r = sqrt(x.^2 + y.^2) + eps;
        z = sin(r) ./ r;
        endfunction

        then

        meshFunction(tx,ty,"hat");

        should give you a simple 3d plot. the tx and ty are the values over the x and y ranges, respectively. The 3rd parameter is the name (as a string) of the function of x and y that returns z.

        A positive attitude may not solve every problem, but it will annoy enough people to be worth the effort.

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          I'm trying to get a 3D graph prepared. I just wasted two days on this app, Graphing Calculator 3D[^] but the author decided on some sort of copy protection or cripple ware or whatever you want to call it. i.e., It makes an excellent graph of Z = f(x,y) but then you can't use that image; e.g., no JPEG, no PNG, in fact, you can't even do a screen print. My motto is: Just say no to any and all such apps. So I came across an app from Microsoft, Mathematics 4.0[^] Before I go wasting another two days on a freeware app that isn't free, can anyone tell me if Microsoft Mathematics will... -1- Generate a good looking graph, Z = f(x,y) -2- Save that image in a file for use by other apps

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          runiter
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          Hi, I'm the author of Graphing Calculator 3D. Although exporting image to JPEG is disabled in free edition the screen capture should work (ie. using PrtScn button in keyboard). I'm not using any copy protection or cripple ware. I used screen capture myself many times without any issues. Have you tried PrtScn keyboard button in Windows? I understand that not everyone can afford the paid software so I tried to leave as much of the main features available in the free edition as possible.

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            I'm trying to get a 3D graph prepared. I just wasted two days on this app, Graphing Calculator 3D[^] but the author decided on some sort of copy protection or cripple ware or whatever you want to call it. i.e., It makes an excellent graph of Z = f(x,y) but then you can't use that image; e.g., no JPEG, no PNG, in fact, you can't even do a screen print. My motto is: Just say no to any and all such apps. So I came across an app from Microsoft, Mathematics 4.0[^] Before I go wasting another two days on a freeware app that isn't free, can anyone tell me if Microsoft Mathematics will... -1- Generate a good looking graph, Z = f(x,y) -2- Save that image in a file for use by other apps

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            Bassam Abdul Baki
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            Some free stuff: http://maxima.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html[^] http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/[^] http://www.scilab.org/[^] http://www.sicyon.com/[^] http://math.exeter.edu/rparris/winplot.html[^]

            Web - BM - RSS - Math - LinkedIn

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              Hi, I'm the author of Graphing Calculator 3D. Although exporting image to JPEG is disabled in free edition the screen capture should work (ie. using PrtScn button in keyboard). I'm not using any copy protection or cripple ware. I used screen capture myself many times without any issues. Have you tried PrtScn keyboard button in Windows? I understand that not everyone can afford the paid software so I tried to leave as much of the main features available in the free edition as possible.

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              Rage
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              runiter wrote:

              I used screen capture myself many times without any issues

              You definitely should grab the professional edition ;P

              ~RaGE();

              I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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              • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                Why no screen print? Try Greenshot[^] awesome, free screen grabber. If the graph can be seen on the screen I don't understand why you can't get a screen print?

                New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9. I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours!

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                The windows snipping tool is plain sufficient for that !

                ~RaGE();

                I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                  Some free stuff: http://maxima.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html[^] http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/[^] http://www.scilab.org/[^] http://www.sicyon.com/[^] http://math.exeter.edu/rparris/winplot.html[^]

                  Web - BM - RSS - Math - LinkedIn

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                  Scilab is fantastic. I also recommend the "matplotlib" package in python.

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                    I'm trying to get a 3D graph prepared. I just wasted two days on this app, Graphing Calculator 3D[^] but the author decided on some sort of copy protection or cripple ware or whatever you want to call it. i.e., It makes an excellent graph of Z = f(x,y) but then you can't use that image; e.g., no JPEG, no PNG, in fact, you can't even do a screen print. My motto is: Just say no to any and all such apps. So I came across an app from Microsoft, Mathematics 4.0[^] Before I go wasting another two days on a freeware app that isn't free, can anyone tell me if Microsoft Mathematics will... -1- Generate a good looking graph, Z = f(x,y) -2- Save that image in a file for use by other apps

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                    kdmote
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                    I can't figure out what you're struggling with. Graphing Calculator looks like a pretty cool tool. I just gave it a try for the first time (used the online version) and it seems very intuitive. I only played around with it for about 10 minutes, but I made some pretty cool looking 3D graphs -- z=.5sin(y^2+6) + 2cos(x^4) -- (I call that one "The Frozen Ice Tunnel of Mordec"). My screenshot tool (Snagit) had no problem taking a pic of it. I'd say @runiter has made a pretty slick tool that I'll definitely be bookmarking. Thanks for the link!

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                      Hi, I'm the author of Graphing Calculator 3D. Although exporting image to JPEG is disabled in free edition the screen capture should work (ie. using PrtScn button in keyboard). I'm not using any copy protection or cripple ware. I used screen capture myself many times without any issues. Have you tried PrtScn keyboard button in Windows? I understand that not everyone can afford the paid software so I tried to leave as much of the main features available in the free edition as possible.

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                      kdmote
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                      Hey runiter, welcome to CP Lounge! I for one am quite impressed with your app. And kudos for coming online to discuss it. Hope you stick around -- this place needs more people like you.

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                        Hey runiter, welcome to CP Lounge! I for one am quite impressed with your app. And kudos for coming online to discuss it. Hope you stick around -- this place needs more people like you.

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                        runiter
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                        Thanks kdmote, glad to have found this forum :) I will certainly stick around and happy to answer any questions about the software, both ins and outs.

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                          I'm trying to get a 3D graph prepared. I just wasted two days on this app, Graphing Calculator 3D[^] but the author decided on some sort of copy protection or cripple ware or whatever you want to call it. i.e., It makes an excellent graph of Z = f(x,y) but then you can't use that image; e.g., no JPEG, no PNG, in fact, you can't even do a screen print. My motto is: Just say no to any and all such apps. So I came across an app from Microsoft, Mathematics 4.0[^] Before I go wasting another two days on a freeware app that isn't free, can anyone tell me if Microsoft Mathematics will... -1- Generate a good looking graph, Z = f(x,y) -2- Save that image in a file for use by other apps

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                          divyamistry
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                          I wholehearted support Octave, but seeing your needs I suggest the following. If you need a free option, you can screencap, but preferably say you can spare $6/month (or between $45-$65/year) for WolframAlpha. Either way, you can get WAlpha output. Here's a sample. I asked WAlpha: (x^2)+(min(x,y))-abs(y)+(xy+y^2)[^] Hope that helps.

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                            Mike Hankey wrote:

                            If the graph can be seen on the screen I don't understand why you can't get a screen print?

                            Nor do I, but that's what happens. If you want to see an example, just waste your time like I did :-D :laugh: :(( :omg: It's some sort of anti-user thing, the freeware isn't really free, and that biz.

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                            KP Lee
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                            Have you tried window's snipping tool instead of a screen print? What's nice about that is that you don't have to use a tool like paint to cut down the amount of screen you want. Your "freeware" may not thought of that tool or may not be able to protect against it's working.

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                              Have you tried window's snipping tool instead of a screen print? What's nice about that is that you don't have to use a tool like paint to cut down the amount of screen you want. Your "freeware" may not thought of that tool or may not be able to protect against it's working.

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                              KP Lee wrote:

                              window's snipping tool instead of a screen print

                              YES !!! PAY DIRT !!! You sir, are a real friend. Thank you. If you know of a similar app that will capture moving images with equal simplicity and detail, post it. This is the way it's supposed to be: click, click, drag, drag, zip, zap, I have my image Nice, I never knew this existed before your suggestion.

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                                I can't figure out what you're struggling with. Graphing Calculator looks like a pretty cool tool. I just gave it a try for the first time (used the online version) and it seems very intuitive. I only played around with it for about 10 minutes, but I made some pretty cool looking 3D graphs -- z=.5sin(y^2+6) + 2cos(x^4) -- (I call that one "The Frozen Ice Tunnel of Mordec"). My screenshot tool (Snagit) had no problem taking a pic of it. I'd say @runiter has made a pretty slick tool that I'll definitely be bookmarking. Thanks for the link!

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                                C P User 3
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                                kdmote wrote:

                                a pretty slick tool that I'll definitely be bookmarking

                                You do realize (yes?) that you can download a a limited freebie version for your machine.

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                                  Hi, I'm the author of Graphing Calculator 3D. Although exporting image to JPEG is disabled in free edition the screen capture should work (ie. using PrtScn button in keyboard). I'm not using any copy protection or cripple ware. I used screen capture myself many times without any issues. Have you tried PrtScn keyboard button in Windows? I understand that not everyone can afford the paid software so I tried to leave as much of the main features available in the free edition as possible.

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                                  For some reason, PrintScreen plus your package hates me, but I did find a screen shot that works. Thanks. Oh, and I fully concur with others, your stuff is absolutely fantastic.

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                                    For some reason, PrintScreen plus your package hates me, but I did find a screen shot that works. Thanks. Oh, and I fully concur with others, your stuff is absolutely fantastic.

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                                    runiter
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                                    Glad you got it to work at the end and nice to hear that you found the software useful :)

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                                      Glad you got it to work at the end and nice to hear that you found the software useful :)

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                                      Is there a place where I can post a picture of the graph I'm developing ? I'm wondering if it already has a name.

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                                        KP Lee wrote:

                                        window's snipping tool instead of a screen print

                                        YES !!! PAY DIRT !!! You sir, are a real friend. Thank you. If you know of a similar app that will capture moving images with equal simplicity and detail, post it. This is the way it's supposed to be: click, click, drag, drag, zip, zap, I have my image Nice, I never knew this existed before your suggestion.

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                                        CP seems to be having problems right now. I highlighted "Pay dirt" and tried to quote it even though a message screen wasn't showing. It chastised me for not putting text in my Subject line when I had neither that nor the Message screen. Before that, it wasn't coming up with anything other than I was logged into CP. Now, I don't see your text, instead: •You must supply some content. •There were problems with your new message Ya think? Well, anyway, you're welcome. I found out about it earlier this year, my supervisor saw me swearing at Paint (don't remember why) and said, why don't you use the snipping tool? I didn't say anything, but first and foremost it helps to know about it. It's really handy with their exchange tool because you can paste the image into the text and you don't have additional file storage to take care of after sending the mail

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                                        • C C P User 3

                                          Is there a place where I can post a picture of the graph I'm developing ? I'm wondering if it already has a name.

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                                          runiter
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                                          I'm not sure if I understood your question correctly but if you like to share screenshot of your graphs because they look interesting for any other reason then you can do so in our facebook fan page here: https://www.facebook.com/GraphingCalculator3D[^]

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