The quality of Apple's software
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I've spent - literally - 12 hours restoring my iPhone after it lost the plot and refused to sync with iTunes. iTunes, no matter how much I swore at it, refused to sync my phone. It would simply hang and become unresponsive. Eventually, after endless reboots of both phone and macbook I restored my phone and applications in a sequence that consisted of: 1. connect devices 2. wait for the sync to start 3. wait until it hangs (usually after half a dozen apps were restored) 4. Force quit iTunes, sometimes by rebooting the machine - sometimes with a hard reboot - and a reboot of the iPhone (since the iPhone still thought it was syncing even though it wasn't connected to the Macbook. 5 restart everything. Go back to 1. I'm on iOS 8.0.2 and the Macbook on Mavericks 10.9.5 - both the latest and greatest. Yet my iPhone, in the last few weeks, has become like the Android device I had but could no longer use because of crashes. The Macbook hangs, iTunes freezes - or just crashes and disappears - and iPhone apps crash several times a day. I kind of expected this from Android apps - the bar for getting you app in the store is low, and hardware is varied - and the iPhone, until now, has been rock solid. Impressively solid. So what's happened here? Is this the beginning of what's come through the pipeline since Jobs shuffled off this mortal coil? Is this what happens when you no longer have a single person calling BS and everyone else simply agreeing (if that was even the case). Is Apple now a collections of fiefdoms, Microsoft style, with each group becoming more focussed on the internal struggle than the external customer? Is it now easier for them to say "Yes, it's OK to ship" because the other option is to face backlash from a superior or be mocked by other groups? I'm sad. Deeply sad at this. Apple software never "Just worked" as the marketing said, but it was always reasonably robust. Microsoft long ago took on the attitude of "We'll never make it perfect. so design it to fail" and we have excellent error reporting, crash dialogs that look for solutions online, and an OS that pro-actively helps you with apps that are unresponsive. My Windows 7 machines are so reliable that a crash (and I can't remember that last OS crash) is a shocking event. Maybe it's time for Apple to start realising that it's software smells just like everyone else's.
cheers Chris Maunder
My iPod Touch 5th Gen has definitely gotten buggy since I installed iOS 8.0...and then 8.0.2 a couple of days later. Some of it was older Apps which also needed updating but I'm not seeing as it's any better than 7.x. ...I haven't even *tried* connecting to iTunes running on Windows yet... Anyway, I never was an Apple fanboy...I got it mostly because I have clients who are religious about iGadgets and I need to talk them through things once in a while...it's a very cool gadget for sure, but I'm also just as happy with my Asus Android tablet which I use a lot more.
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I've spent - literally - 12 hours restoring my iPhone after it lost the plot and refused to sync with iTunes. iTunes, no matter how much I swore at it, refused to sync my phone. It would simply hang and become unresponsive. Eventually, after endless reboots of both phone and macbook I restored my phone and applications in a sequence that consisted of: 1. connect devices 2. wait for the sync to start 3. wait until it hangs (usually after half a dozen apps were restored) 4. Force quit iTunes, sometimes by rebooting the machine - sometimes with a hard reboot - and a reboot of the iPhone (since the iPhone still thought it was syncing even though it wasn't connected to the Macbook. 5 restart everything. Go back to 1. I'm on iOS 8.0.2 and the Macbook on Mavericks 10.9.5 - both the latest and greatest. Yet my iPhone, in the last few weeks, has become like the Android device I had but could no longer use because of crashes. The Macbook hangs, iTunes freezes - or just crashes and disappears - and iPhone apps crash several times a day. I kind of expected this from Android apps - the bar for getting you app in the store is low, and hardware is varied - and the iPhone, until now, has been rock solid. Impressively solid. So what's happened here? Is this the beginning of what's come through the pipeline since Jobs shuffled off this mortal coil? Is this what happens when you no longer have a single person calling BS and everyone else simply agreeing (if that was even the case). Is Apple now a collections of fiefdoms, Microsoft style, with each group becoming more focussed on the internal struggle than the external customer? Is it now easier for them to say "Yes, it's OK to ship" because the other option is to face backlash from a superior or be mocked by other groups? I'm sad. Deeply sad at this. Apple software never "Just worked" as the marketing said, but it was always reasonably robust. Microsoft long ago took on the attitude of "We'll never make it perfect. so design it to fail" and we have excellent error reporting, crash dialogs that look for solutions online, and an OS that pro-actively helps you with apps that are unresponsive. My Windows 7 machines are so reliable that a crash (and I can't remember that last OS crash) is a shocking event. Maybe it's time for Apple to start realising that it's software smells just like everyone else's.
cheers Chris Maunder
Coffee time: apple makes pretty good computers, but so does everyone else. With apple, though, it's really not a case of "you get what you pay for"; you pay well over the odds, but you still only get a pretty good computer. Of course, with Windows, you get baby blocks and the ribbon, so they're bucking to get rid of their pretty-good-software status.
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I've spent - literally - 12 hours restoring my iPhone after it lost the plot and refused to sync with iTunes. iTunes, no matter how much I swore at it, refused to sync my phone. It would simply hang and become unresponsive. Eventually, after endless reboots of both phone and macbook I restored my phone and applications in a sequence that consisted of: 1. connect devices 2. wait for the sync to start 3. wait until it hangs (usually after half a dozen apps were restored) 4. Force quit iTunes, sometimes by rebooting the machine - sometimes with a hard reboot - and a reboot of the iPhone (since the iPhone still thought it was syncing even though it wasn't connected to the Macbook. 5 restart everything. Go back to 1. I'm on iOS 8.0.2 and the Macbook on Mavericks 10.9.5 - both the latest and greatest. Yet my iPhone, in the last few weeks, has become like the Android device I had but could no longer use because of crashes. The Macbook hangs, iTunes freezes - or just crashes and disappears - and iPhone apps crash several times a day. I kind of expected this from Android apps - the bar for getting you app in the store is low, and hardware is varied - and the iPhone, until now, has been rock solid. Impressively solid. So what's happened here? Is this the beginning of what's come through the pipeline since Jobs shuffled off this mortal coil? Is this what happens when you no longer have a single person calling BS and everyone else simply agreeing (if that was even the case). Is Apple now a collections of fiefdoms, Microsoft style, with each group becoming more focussed on the internal struggle than the external customer? Is it now easier for them to say "Yes, it's OK to ship" because the other option is to face backlash from a superior or be mocked by other groups? I'm sad. Deeply sad at this. Apple software never "Just worked" as the marketing said, but it was always reasonably robust. Microsoft long ago took on the attitude of "We'll never make it perfect. so design it to fail" and we have excellent error reporting, crash dialogs that look for solutions online, and an OS that pro-actively helps you with apps that are unresponsive. My Windows 7 machines are so reliable that a crash (and I can't remember that last OS crash) is a shocking event. Maybe it's time for Apple to start realising that it's software smells just like everyone else's.
cheers Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote:
Maybe it's time for Apple the users to start realising that it's software smells just like everyone else's.
FTFY. Actually, as far a I'm concerned, Apples software has never been much better than it is now. Macbooks have always hung, iTunes has always crashed, frozen or disappeared. And their apps are less stable than their Android counterparts in my experience. You're just not getting any error message when they crash, they just silently disappears.
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I've spent - literally - 12 hours restoring my iPhone after it lost the plot and refused to sync with iTunes. iTunes, no matter how much I swore at it, refused to sync my phone. It would simply hang and become unresponsive. Eventually, after endless reboots of both phone and macbook I restored my phone and applications in a sequence that consisted of: 1. connect devices 2. wait for the sync to start 3. wait until it hangs (usually after half a dozen apps were restored) 4. Force quit iTunes, sometimes by rebooting the machine - sometimes with a hard reboot - and a reboot of the iPhone (since the iPhone still thought it was syncing even though it wasn't connected to the Macbook. 5 restart everything. Go back to 1. I'm on iOS 8.0.2 and the Macbook on Mavericks 10.9.5 - both the latest and greatest. Yet my iPhone, in the last few weeks, has become like the Android device I had but could no longer use because of crashes. The Macbook hangs, iTunes freezes - or just crashes and disappears - and iPhone apps crash several times a day. I kind of expected this from Android apps - the bar for getting you app in the store is low, and hardware is varied - and the iPhone, until now, has been rock solid. Impressively solid. So what's happened here? Is this the beginning of what's come through the pipeline since Jobs shuffled off this mortal coil? Is this what happens when you no longer have a single person calling BS and everyone else simply agreeing (if that was even the case). Is Apple now a collections of fiefdoms, Microsoft style, with each group becoming more focussed on the internal struggle than the external customer? Is it now easier for them to say "Yes, it's OK to ship" because the other option is to face backlash from a superior or be mocked by other groups? I'm sad. Deeply sad at this. Apple software never "Just worked" as the marketing said, but it was always reasonably robust. Microsoft long ago took on the attitude of "We'll never make it perfect. so design it to fail" and we have excellent error reporting, crash dialogs that look for solutions online, and an OS that pro-actively helps you with apps that are unresponsive. My Windows 7 machines are so reliable that a crash (and I can't remember that last OS crash) is a shocking event. Maybe it's time for Apple to start realising that it's software smells just like everyone else's.
cheers Chris Maunder
I totally agree. Ever since I upgraded to iOS8 on my 4S I'm swearing it on a daily basis :/ (yeah, I had to be the early iOS8 adopter, before people started writing on the net it's their evil scheme to get us to update :(( ). IMO they should allow downgrade in this case, as the upgrade (iPhone 6), in my country (CRO), is more expensive than the newest entry level model of MacBook Air 13 (unbelievable I know?!)
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I've spent - literally - 12 hours restoring my iPhone after it lost the plot and refused to sync with iTunes. iTunes, no matter how much I swore at it, refused to sync my phone. It would simply hang and become unresponsive. Eventually, after endless reboots of both phone and macbook I restored my phone and applications in a sequence that consisted of: 1. connect devices 2. wait for the sync to start 3. wait until it hangs (usually after half a dozen apps were restored) 4. Force quit iTunes, sometimes by rebooting the machine - sometimes with a hard reboot - and a reboot of the iPhone (since the iPhone still thought it was syncing even though it wasn't connected to the Macbook. 5 restart everything. Go back to 1. I'm on iOS 8.0.2 and the Macbook on Mavericks 10.9.5 - both the latest and greatest. Yet my iPhone, in the last few weeks, has become like the Android device I had but could no longer use because of crashes. The Macbook hangs, iTunes freezes - or just crashes and disappears - and iPhone apps crash several times a day. I kind of expected this from Android apps - the bar for getting you app in the store is low, and hardware is varied - and the iPhone, until now, has been rock solid. Impressively solid. So what's happened here? Is this the beginning of what's come through the pipeline since Jobs shuffled off this mortal coil? Is this what happens when you no longer have a single person calling BS and everyone else simply agreeing (if that was even the case). Is Apple now a collections of fiefdoms, Microsoft style, with each group becoming more focussed on the internal struggle than the external customer? Is it now easier for them to say "Yes, it's OK to ship" because the other option is to face backlash from a superior or be mocked by other groups? I'm sad. Deeply sad at this. Apple software never "Just worked" as the marketing said, but it was always reasonably robust. Microsoft long ago took on the attitude of "We'll never make it perfect. so design it to fail" and we have excellent error reporting, crash dialogs that look for solutions online, and an OS that pro-actively helps you with apps that are unresponsive. My Windows 7 machines are so reliable that a crash (and I can't remember that last OS crash) is a shocking event. Maybe it's time for Apple to start realising that it's software smells just like everyone else's.
cheers Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote:
3. wait until it hangs (usually after half a dozen apps were restored)
did they hired any people from Microsoft?? :-D
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I've spent - literally - 12 hours restoring my iPhone after it lost the plot and refused to sync with iTunes. iTunes, no matter how much I swore at it, refused to sync my phone. It would simply hang and become unresponsive. Eventually, after endless reboots of both phone and macbook I restored my phone and applications in a sequence that consisted of: 1. connect devices 2. wait for the sync to start 3. wait until it hangs (usually after half a dozen apps were restored) 4. Force quit iTunes, sometimes by rebooting the machine - sometimes with a hard reboot - and a reboot of the iPhone (since the iPhone still thought it was syncing even though it wasn't connected to the Macbook. 5 restart everything. Go back to 1. I'm on iOS 8.0.2 and the Macbook on Mavericks 10.9.5 - both the latest and greatest. Yet my iPhone, in the last few weeks, has become like the Android device I had but could no longer use because of crashes. The Macbook hangs, iTunes freezes - or just crashes and disappears - and iPhone apps crash several times a day. I kind of expected this from Android apps - the bar for getting you app in the store is low, and hardware is varied - and the iPhone, until now, has been rock solid. Impressively solid. So what's happened here? Is this the beginning of what's come through the pipeline since Jobs shuffled off this mortal coil? Is this what happens when you no longer have a single person calling BS and everyone else simply agreeing (if that was even the case). Is Apple now a collections of fiefdoms, Microsoft style, with each group becoming more focussed on the internal struggle than the external customer? Is it now easier for them to say "Yes, it's OK to ship" because the other option is to face backlash from a superior or be mocked by other groups? I'm sad. Deeply sad at this. Apple software never "Just worked" as the marketing said, but it was always reasonably robust. Microsoft long ago took on the attitude of "We'll never make it perfect. so design it to fail" and we have excellent error reporting, crash dialogs that look for solutions online, and an OS that pro-actively helps you with apps that are unresponsive. My Windows 7 machines are so reliable that a crash (and I can't remember that last OS crash) is a shocking event. Maybe it's time for Apple to start realising that it's software smells just like everyone else's.
cheers Chris Maunder
I had similar symptoms years ago. Turned out it was the old docking stations had given up and was throwing intermittent faults into the mix. Removed docking station and went for straight cable attachment and bingo, all good again! Maybe the docking station/cable is on its way out.
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I've spent - literally - 12 hours restoring my iPhone after it lost the plot and refused to sync with iTunes. iTunes, no matter how much I swore at it, refused to sync my phone. It would simply hang and become unresponsive. Eventually, after endless reboots of both phone and macbook I restored my phone and applications in a sequence that consisted of: 1. connect devices 2. wait for the sync to start 3. wait until it hangs (usually after half a dozen apps were restored) 4. Force quit iTunes, sometimes by rebooting the machine - sometimes with a hard reboot - and a reboot of the iPhone (since the iPhone still thought it was syncing even though it wasn't connected to the Macbook. 5 restart everything. Go back to 1. I'm on iOS 8.0.2 and the Macbook on Mavericks 10.9.5 - both the latest and greatest. Yet my iPhone, in the last few weeks, has become like the Android device I had but could no longer use because of crashes. The Macbook hangs, iTunes freezes - or just crashes and disappears - and iPhone apps crash several times a day. I kind of expected this from Android apps - the bar for getting you app in the store is low, and hardware is varied - and the iPhone, until now, has been rock solid. Impressively solid. So what's happened here? Is this the beginning of what's come through the pipeline since Jobs shuffled off this mortal coil? Is this what happens when you no longer have a single person calling BS and everyone else simply agreeing (if that was even the case). Is Apple now a collections of fiefdoms, Microsoft style, with each group becoming more focussed on the internal struggle than the external customer? Is it now easier for them to say "Yes, it's OK to ship" because the other option is to face backlash from a superior or be mocked by other groups? I'm sad. Deeply sad at this. Apple software never "Just worked" as the marketing said, but it was always reasonably robust. Microsoft long ago took on the attitude of "We'll never make it perfect. so design it to fail" and we have excellent error reporting, crash dialogs that look for solutions online, and an OS that pro-actively helps you with apps that are unresponsive. My Windows 7 machines are so reliable that a crash (and I can't remember that last OS crash) is a shocking event. Maybe it's time for Apple to start realising that it's software smells just like everyone else's.
cheers Chris Maunder
I know someone who bought a brand new iPhone that broke down after a few weeks/months making it impossible to make phone calls. And actually that was her second bad experience with an Apple product. Of course, being a true Apple fanboi, she still thinks Apple is the best because, unlike Windows, it comes pre-installed with an Office suite! And Microsoft charges you seperately for their Office products. The fact that Apple is twice as expensive and that there are actually free Office suites is overlooked :doh: My best friend bought an iPhone because she is moving to Japan next year and there was something with iPhone that made it easier to call to/from/in Japan, I don't know. Long story short, it keeps freezing and crashing and she'll need to buy a new one before even moving to Japan. And then I have a friend who's never had any troubles with his iPhone. None of the above were the latest and greatest, but they weren't the shabbiest either. For me Apple is just another hardware and software company that distinguishes itself by being overpriced and having a moronic following that just can't see that even Apple has its flaws... No Apple for me! :D
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I've spent - literally - 12 hours restoring my iPhone after it lost the plot and refused to sync with iTunes. iTunes, no matter how much I swore at it, refused to sync my phone. It would simply hang and become unresponsive. Eventually, after endless reboots of both phone and macbook I restored my phone and applications in a sequence that consisted of: 1. connect devices 2. wait for the sync to start 3. wait until it hangs (usually after half a dozen apps were restored) 4. Force quit iTunes, sometimes by rebooting the machine - sometimes with a hard reboot - and a reboot of the iPhone (since the iPhone still thought it was syncing even though it wasn't connected to the Macbook. 5 restart everything. Go back to 1. I'm on iOS 8.0.2 and the Macbook on Mavericks 10.9.5 - both the latest and greatest. Yet my iPhone, in the last few weeks, has become like the Android device I had but could no longer use because of crashes. The Macbook hangs, iTunes freezes - or just crashes and disappears - and iPhone apps crash several times a day. I kind of expected this from Android apps - the bar for getting you app in the store is low, and hardware is varied - and the iPhone, until now, has been rock solid. Impressively solid. So what's happened here? Is this the beginning of what's come through the pipeline since Jobs shuffled off this mortal coil? Is this what happens when you no longer have a single person calling BS and everyone else simply agreeing (if that was even the case). Is Apple now a collections of fiefdoms, Microsoft style, with each group becoming more focussed on the internal struggle than the external customer? Is it now easier for them to say "Yes, it's OK to ship" because the other option is to face backlash from a superior or be mocked by other groups? I'm sad. Deeply sad at this. Apple software never "Just worked" as the marketing said, but it was always reasonably robust. Microsoft long ago took on the attitude of "We'll never make it perfect. so design it to fail" and we have excellent error reporting, crash dialogs that look for solutions online, and an OS that pro-actively helps you with apps that are unresponsive. My Windows 7 machines are so reliable that a crash (and I can't remember that last OS crash) is a shocking event. Maybe it's time for Apple to start realising that it's software smells just like everyone else's.
cheers Chris Maunder
I use a happy mix; BlackBerry Z10(reliable enough, although occasionally it consumes the battery, usually when thrashing the wifi), Ubuntu for PC's and an Android tablet. Oddly enough I don't tend to load my smart devices up with useless junk, which probably contributes to my satisfaction with their performance. As I never tire of telling people at dinner parties, my Android phone was used as an attack vector when live and connected via USB, to remove useful things from my pc and laptop(such as Mono, which runtime I use for a personal text scrambler using mil-spec encryption). The implication was that somebody didn't want me to send encrypted notes to my many dodgy rebel friends in totalitarian Amerikkka - sorry - I digress. This led me to BB10, which cannot connect automatically or in any operational sense to Linux. So that's one-up. Then my old-fashioned HP Slate 7. while being Android, has three distinct advantages over other tablets; first, it works seamlessly with hp wireless printers; second, it has Beats audio hardware which Apple has 'borrowed'; thirdly it takes micro sd expansion of a further 32 GB. And of course, Ubuntu is free,runs on scraps, has a vast free software library, vast support(though not as good as it used to be) and is recommended by the Security Services as the hardest os, which means they know how to break it. And when I'm feeling particularly stubborn, there's Tails OS.
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I've spent - literally - 12 hours restoring my iPhone after it lost the plot and refused to sync with iTunes. iTunes, no matter how much I swore at it, refused to sync my phone. It would simply hang and become unresponsive. Eventually, after endless reboots of both phone and macbook I restored my phone and applications in a sequence that consisted of: 1. connect devices 2. wait for the sync to start 3. wait until it hangs (usually after half a dozen apps were restored) 4. Force quit iTunes, sometimes by rebooting the machine - sometimes with a hard reboot - and a reboot of the iPhone (since the iPhone still thought it was syncing even though it wasn't connected to the Macbook. 5 restart everything. Go back to 1. I'm on iOS 8.0.2 and the Macbook on Mavericks 10.9.5 - both the latest and greatest. Yet my iPhone, in the last few weeks, has become like the Android device I had but could no longer use because of crashes. The Macbook hangs, iTunes freezes - or just crashes and disappears - and iPhone apps crash several times a day. I kind of expected this from Android apps - the bar for getting you app in the store is low, and hardware is varied - and the iPhone, until now, has been rock solid. Impressively solid. So what's happened here? Is this the beginning of what's come through the pipeline since Jobs shuffled off this mortal coil? Is this what happens when you no longer have a single person calling BS and everyone else simply agreeing (if that was even the case). Is Apple now a collections of fiefdoms, Microsoft style, with each group becoming more focussed on the internal struggle than the external customer? Is it now easier for them to say "Yes, it's OK to ship" because the other option is to face backlash from a superior or be mocked by other groups? I'm sad. Deeply sad at this. Apple software never "Just worked" as the marketing said, but it was always reasonably robust. Microsoft long ago took on the attitude of "We'll never make it perfect. so design it to fail" and we have excellent error reporting, crash dialogs that look for solutions online, and an OS that pro-actively helps you with apps that are unresponsive. My Windows 7 machines are so reliable that a crash (and I can't remember that last OS crash) is a shocking event. Maybe it's time for Apple to start realising that it's software smells just like everyone else's.
cheers Chris Maunder
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I've spent - literally - 12 hours restoring my iPhone after it lost the plot and refused to sync with iTunes. iTunes, no matter how much I swore at it, refused to sync my phone. It would simply hang and become unresponsive. Eventually, after endless reboots of both phone and macbook I restored my phone and applications in a sequence that consisted of: 1. connect devices 2. wait for the sync to start 3. wait until it hangs (usually after half a dozen apps were restored) 4. Force quit iTunes, sometimes by rebooting the machine - sometimes with a hard reboot - and a reboot of the iPhone (since the iPhone still thought it was syncing even though it wasn't connected to the Macbook. 5 restart everything. Go back to 1. I'm on iOS 8.0.2 and the Macbook on Mavericks 10.9.5 - both the latest and greatest. Yet my iPhone, in the last few weeks, has become like the Android device I had but could no longer use because of crashes. The Macbook hangs, iTunes freezes - or just crashes and disappears - and iPhone apps crash several times a day. I kind of expected this from Android apps - the bar for getting you app in the store is low, and hardware is varied - and the iPhone, until now, has been rock solid. Impressively solid. So what's happened here? Is this the beginning of what's come through the pipeline since Jobs shuffled off this mortal coil? Is this what happens when you no longer have a single person calling BS and everyone else simply agreeing (if that was even the case). Is Apple now a collections of fiefdoms, Microsoft style, with each group becoming more focussed on the internal struggle than the external customer? Is it now easier for them to say "Yes, it's OK to ship" because the other option is to face backlash from a superior or be mocked by other groups? I'm sad. Deeply sad at this. Apple software never "Just worked" as the marketing said, but it was always reasonably robust. Microsoft long ago took on the attitude of "We'll never make it perfect. so design it to fail" and we have excellent error reporting, crash dialogs that look for solutions online, and an OS that pro-actively helps you with apps that are unresponsive. My Windows 7 machines are so reliable that a crash (and I can't remember that last OS crash) is a shocking event. Maybe it's time for Apple to start realising that it's software smells just like everyone else's.
cheers Chris Maunder
iTunes is one of the worst software application ever designed created that made it into existence. They should shoot whom ever devised it and fire the entire software team. The people responsible for the green light of releasing this "thing" should be staked and burned alive. I'm even more flabbergasted by the fact they manage to make it worse with every release... I feel your pain, bro. Moral support for you.
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iTunes is one of the worst software application ever designed created that made it into existence. They should shoot whom ever devised it and fire the entire software team. The people responsible for the green light of releasing this "thing" should be staked and burned alive. I'm even more flabbergasted by the fact they manage to make it worse with every release... I feel your pain, bro. Moral support for you.
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(MQOTD rules and previous solutions)I have to agree on iTunes. It is not good. It was always buggy on Windows and wireless syncing very hit and miss. If all devices, the PC and the router (was Netgear, now Draytek) were rebooted, then a sync might happen. I moved to a MacBook, thinking that I will start to develop some apps and iTunes seems to be just as bad. I did once have four devices showing and being willing to sync wirelessly, but now I am lucky if one or two show. Again, multiple reboots sometimes solve the problem. So yes, "It doesn't just work". I'm probably holding them wrong.
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I've spent - literally - 12 hours restoring my iPhone after it lost the plot and refused to sync with iTunes. iTunes, no matter how much I swore at it, refused to sync my phone. It would simply hang and become unresponsive. Eventually, after endless reboots of both phone and macbook I restored my phone and applications in a sequence that consisted of: 1. connect devices 2. wait for the sync to start 3. wait until it hangs (usually after half a dozen apps were restored) 4. Force quit iTunes, sometimes by rebooting the machine - sometimes with a hard reboot - and a reboot of the iPhone (since the iPhone still thought it was syncing even though it wasn't connected to the Macbook. 5 restart everything. Go back to 1. I'm on iOS 8.0.2 and the Macbook on Mavericks 10.9.5 - both the latest and greatest. Yet my iPhone, in the last few weeks, has become like the Android device I had but could no longer use because of crashes. The Macbook hangs, iTunes freezes - or just crashes and disappears - and iPhone apps crash several times a day. I kind of expected this from Android apps - the bar for getting you app in the store is low, and hardware is varied - and the iPhone, until now, has been rock solid. Impressively solid. So what's happened here? Is this the beginning of what's come through the pipeline since Jobs shuffled off this mortal coil? Is this what happens when you no longer have a single person calling BS and everyone else simply agreeing (if that was even the case). Is Apple now a collections of fiefdoms, Microsoft style, with each group becoming more focussed on the internal struggle than the external customer? Is it now easier for them to say "Yes, it's OK to ship" because the other option is to face backlash from a superior or be mocked by other groups? I'm sad. Deeply sad at this. Apple software never "Just worked" as the marketing said, but it was always reasonably robust. Microsoft long ago took on the attitude of "We'll never make it perfect. so design it to fail" and we have excellent error reporting, crash dialogs that look for solutions online, and an OS that pro-actively helps you with apps that are unresponsive. My Windows 7 machines are so reliable that a crash (and I can't remember that last OS crash) is a shocking event. Maybe it's time for Apple to start realising that it's software smells just like everyone else's.
cheers Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote:
So what's happened here? Is this the beginning of what's come through the pipeline since Jobs shuffled off this mortal coil?
Yes, exactly. Apple and Microsoft (soon Oracle) have failed or begun to fail due to lack of good leadership. Jobs and Gates were good leaders. Without the correct leadership, all great things will fail in time...even Code Project. So don't leave CP. ;)
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I've spent - literally - 12 hours restoring my iPhone after it lost the plot and refused to sync with iTunes. iTunes, no matter how much I swore at it, refused to sync my phone. It would simply hang and become unresponsive. Eventually, after endless reboots of both phone and macbook I restored my phone and applications in a sequence that consisted of: 1. connect devices 2. wait for the sync to start 3. wait until it hangs (usually after half a dozen apps were restored) 4. Force quit iTunes, sometimes by rebooting the machine - sometimes with a hard reboot - and a reboot of the iPhone (since the iPhone still thought it was syncing even though it wasn't connected to the Macbook. 5 restart everything. Go back to 1. I'm on iOS 8.0.2 and the Macbook on Mavericks 10.9.5 - both the latest and greatest. Yet my iPhone, in the last few weeks, has become like the Android device I had but could no longer use because of crashes. The Macbook hangs, iTunes freezes - or just crashes and disappears - and iPhone apps crash several times a day. I kind of expected this from Android apps - the bar for getting you app in the store is low, and hardware is varied - and the iPhone, until now, has been rock solid. Impressively solid. So what's happened here? Is this the beginning of what's come through the pipeline since Jobs shuffled off this mortal coil? Is this what happens when you no longer have a single person calling BS and everyone else simply agreeing (if that was even the case). Is Apple now a collections of fiefdoms, Microsoft style, with each group becoming more focussed on the internal struggle than the external customer? Is it now easier for them to say "Yes, it's OK to ship" because the other option is to face backlash from a superior or be mocked by other groups? I'm sad. Deeply sad at this. Apple software never "Just worked" as the marketing said, but it was always reasonably robust. Microsoft long ago took on the attitude of "We'll never make it perfect. so design it to fail" and we have excellent error reporting, crash dialogs that look for solutions online, and an OS that pro-actively helps you with apps that are unresponsive. My Windows 7 machines are so reliable that a crash (and I can't remember that last OS crash) is a shocking event. Maybe it's time for Apple to start realising that it's software smells just like everyone else's.
cheers Chris Maunder
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I've spent - literally - 12 hours restoring my iPhone after it lost the plot and refused to sync with iTunes. iTunes, no matter how much I swore at it, refused to sync my phone. It would simply hang and become unresponsive. Eventually, after endless reboots of both phone and macbook I restored my phone and applications in a sequence that consisted of: 1. connect devices 2. wait for the sync to start 3. wait until it hangs (usually after half a dozen apps were restored) 4. Force quit iTunes, sometimes by rebooting the machine - sometimes with a hard reboot - and a reboot of the iPhone (since the iPhone still thought it was syncing even though it wasn't connected to the Macbook. 5 restart everything. Go back to 1. I'm on iOS 8.0.2 and the Macbook on Mavericks 10.9.5 - both the latest and greatest. Yet my iPhone, in the last few weeks, has become like the Android device I had but could no longer use because of crashes. The Macbook hangs, iTunes freezes - or just crashes and disappears - and iPhone apps crash several times a day. I kind of expected this from Android apps - the bar for getting you app in the store is low, and hardware is varied - and the iPhone, until now, has been rock solid. Impressively solid. So what's happened here? Is this the beginning of what's come through the pipeline since Jobs shuffled off this mortal coil? Is this what happens when you no longer have a single person calling BS and everyone else simply agreeing (if that was even the case). Is Apple now a collections of fiefdoms, Microsoft style, with each group becoming more focussed on the internal struggle than the external customer? Is it now easier for them to say "Yes, it's OK to ship" because the other option is to face backlash from a superior or be mocked by other groups? I'm sad. Deeply sad at this. Apple software never "Just worked" as the marketing said, but it was always reasonably robust. Microsoft long ago took on the attitude of "We'll never make it perfect. so design it to fail" and we have excellent error reporting, crash dialogs that look for solutions online, and an OS that pro-actively helps you with apps that are unresponsive. My Windows 7 machines are so reliable that a crash (and I can't remember that last OS crash) is a shocking event. Maybe it's time for Apple to start realising that it's software smells just like everyone else's.
cheers Chris Maunder
I've had similar problems a couple of times. The solution for me was to switch cords, or switch USB ports. I'm aware that just because it sounds like a similar problem, doesn't mean that it is.
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I've spent - literally - 12 hours restoring my iPhone after it lost the plot and refused to sync with iTunes. iTunes, no matter how much I swore at it, refused to sync my phone. It would simply hang and become unresponsive. Eventually, after endless reboots of both phone and macbook I restored my phone and applications in a sequence that consisted of: 1. connect devices 2. wait for the sync to start 3. wait until it hangs (usually after half a dozen apps were restored) 4. Force quit iTunes, sometimes by rebooting the machine - sometimes with a hard reboot - and a reboot of the iPhone (since the iPhone still thought it was syncing even though it wasn't connected to the Macbook. 5 restart everything. Go back to 1. I'm on iOS 8.0.2 and the Macbook on Mavericks 10.9.5 - both the latest and greatest. Yet my iPhone, in the last few weeks, has become like the Android device I had but could no longer use because of crashes. The Macbook hangs, iTunes freezes - or just crashes and disappears - and iPhone apps crash several times a day. I kind of expected this from Android apps - the bar for getting you app in the store is low, and hardware is varied - and the iPhone, until now, has been rock solid. Impressively solid. So what's happened here? Is this the beginning of what's come through the pipeline since Jobs shuffled off this mortal coil? Is this what happens when you no longer have a single person calling BS and everyone else simply agreeing (if that was even the case). Is Apple now a collections of fiefdoms, Microsoft style, with each group becoming more focussed on the internal struggle than the external customer? Is it now easier for them to say "Yes, it's OK to ship" because the other option is to face backlash from a superior or be mocked by other groups? I'm sad. Deeply sad at this. Apple software never "Just worked" as the marketing said, but it was always reasonably robust. Microsoft long ago took on the attitude of "We'll never make it perfect. so design it to fail" and we have excellent error reporting, crash dialogs that look for solutions online, and an OS that pro-actively helps you with apps that are unresponsive. My Windows 7 machines are so reliable that a crash (and I can't remember that last OS crash) is a shocking event. Maybe it's time for Apple to start realising that it's software smells just like everyone else's.
cheers Chris Maunder
The best product of Microsoft is Windows XP. Although sometimes is crushes, it is the most stable of all windows out there (until Windows 7). What happened to Microsoft? Bill Gates retired. Although it is the face of the company, Bill Gates is a techie guy and as all techie guy it cares for the detail. That's why Windows XP, Visual Studio 98/2003/2005, VirtualPC (first version) and a lot other great products are developed (either created or perfected) by Microsoft. Then techie lead retired and business guys got the lead. Result was Windows Vista. Techie guys do care about the product, business guys do care for the company (and money). So the product itself, the contact with OEM and other details become meaningless. Now Apple do the same mistake. Steve Jobs although having a trade talent is a techie guy. It do cares for the product and created or perfected great products like iPhone, iPod, TrueType fonts, etc. Now Apple is collapsing under the care of the company itself and the money. Instead caring for the product, Apple is trying to bind the already won market to itself. On the other hand Google is so techie company that goes for what every techie wants: experimenting. Experimenting products never "just works", they are experiments, they are meant to challenge the tester to find the mistakes. But the problem is simple users do not want to experiment, they want something that "just works". So under-techie is bad, over-techie is also bad (unless you have billions of dollars to spent like Google).
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I have to agree on iTunes. It is not good. It was always buggy on Windows and wireless syncing very hit and miss. If all devices, the PC and the router (was Netgear, now Draytek) were rebooted, then a sync might happen. I moved to a MacBook, thinking that I will start to develop some apps and iTunes seems to be just as bad. I did once have four devices showing and being willing to sync wirelessly, but now I am lucky if one or two show. Again, multiple reboots sometimes solve the problem. So yes, "It doesn't just work". I'm probably holding them wrong.
Got to agree about iTunes. It keep losing my apps and music. Pretty rough realy. I have two iPads, at least I have one and my wife has the other. No problems except I upgraded mine from IOS6 to 7. Bad move. I will not be touching IOS8 with a barge pole, even if it has a rubber glove on the end. IPhones, lots of them and no problems at all. My Android phone, not so much, thanks. I hate it and it hates me.
I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.
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I've spent - literally - 12 hours restoring my iPhone after it lost the plot and refused to sync with iTunes. iTunes, no matter how much I swore at it, refused to sync my phone. It would simply hang and become unresponsive. Eventually, after endless reboots of both phone and macbook I restored my phone and applications in a sequence that consisted of: 1. connect devices 2. wait for the sync to start 3. wait until it hangs (usually after half a dozen apps were restored) 4. Force quit iTunes, sometimes by rebooting the machine - sometimes with a hard reboot - and a reboot of the iPhone (since the iPhone still thought it was syncing even though it wasn't connected to the Macbook. 5 restart everything. Go back to 1. I'm on iOS 8.0.2 and the Macbook on Mavericks 10.9.5 - both the latest and greatest. Yet my iPhone, in the last few weeks, has become like the Android device I had but could no longer use because of crashes. The Macbook hangs, iTunes freezes - or just crashes and disappears - and iPhone apps crash several times a day. I kind of expected this from Android apps - the bar for getting you app in the store is low, and hardware is varied - and the iPhone, until now, has been rock solid. Impressively solid. So what's happened here? Is this the beginning of what's come through the pipeline since Jobs shuffled off this mortal coil? Is this what happens when you no longer have a single person calling BS and everyone else simply agreeing (if that was even the case). Is Apple now a collections of fiefdoms, Microsoft style, with each group becoming more focussed on the internal struggle than the external customer? Is it now easier for them to say "Yes, it's OK to ship" because the other option is to face backlash from a superior or be mocked by other groups? I'm sad. Deeply sad at this. Apple software never "Just worked" as the marketing said, but it was always reasonably robust. Microsoft long ago took on the attitude of "We'll never make it perfect. so design it to fail" and we have excellent error reporting, crash dialogs that look for solutions online, and an OS that pro-actively helps you with apps that are unresponsive. My Windows 7 machines are so reliable that a crash (and I can't remember that last OS crash) is a shocking event. Maybe it's time for Apple to start realising that it's software smells just like everyone else's.
cheers Chris Maunder
I have always viewed it with a get what you paid for attitude. If you want the best hardware buy Apple gear. If you care more about getting the best software you buy MS "gear".
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Coffee time: apple makes pretty good computers, but so does everyone else. With apple, though, it's really not a case of "you get what you pay for"; you pay well over the odds, but you still only get a pretty good computer. Of course, with Windows, you get baby blocks and the ribbon, so they're bucking to get rid of their pretty-good-software status.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Having used both Apple machines and PCs (and some of the best PCs out there) I still feel that the Quality of the Apple hardware is far higher than the industry average and I'm willing to pay the premium to have a machine that looks and performs consistently well over it's full lifetime. My PC laptops always seemed to start creaking, or the letters on the keys rubbed off, or the rubber pads underneath cam away or the chassis cracked. Never with an Apple device. I'm no fanboi, but I like good hardware and Apple definitely has that nailed.
cheers Chris Maunder
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I've had similar problems a couple of times. The solution for me was to switch cords, or switch USB ports. I'm aware that just because it sounds like a similar problem, doesn't mean that it is.
I thought exactly the same thing and tried it, but still no luck. It did seem like it was a connection issue - though truly it's a software issue because surely there'd be some communication on both sides to ensure they were actually still in contact. One interesting thing I did notices is that if you purchase an app on the phone and also a different app on the computer then sync, it was getting all very confused as it tried to transfer the purchase from the phone while transferring other purchases to the phone. I would *love* to walk through the code to see what was going on. You just know that, if you sat down with the dev who wrote that code years ago you'd get a "Oh yeah - that bit was always a bit dodgy but we had to do it this way because something else over here and..." sort of thing.
cheers Chris Maunder
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The best product of Microsoft is Windows XP. Although sometimes is crushes, it is the most stable of all windows out there (until Windows 7). What happened to Microsoft? Bill Gates retired. Although it is the face of the company, Bill Gates is a techie guy and as all techie guy it cares for the detail. That's why Windows XP, Visual Studio 98/2003/2005, VirtualPC (first version) and a lot other great products are developed (either created or perfected) by Microsoft. Then techie lead retired and business guys got the lead. Result was Windows Vista. Techie guys do care about the product, business guys do care for the company (and money). So the product itself, the contact with OEM and other details become meaningless. Now Apple do the same mistake. Steve Jobs although having a trade talent is a techie guy. It do cares for the product and created or perfected great products like iPhone, iPod, TrueType fonts, etc. Now Apple is collapsing under the care of the company itself and the money. Instead caring for the product, Apple is trying to bind the already won market to itself. On the other hand Google is so techie company that goes for what every techie wants: experimenting. Experimenting products never "just works", they are experiments, they are meant to challenge the tester to find the mistakes. But the problem is simple users do not want to experiment, they want something that "just works". So under-techie is bad, over-techie is also bad (unless you have billions of dollars to spent like Google).
Plamen Dragiyski wrote:
it is the most stable of all windows out there (until Windows 7).
So you mean that Windows 7 is the most stable? Personally I've found Win7 way, way better than XP both in terms of stability and security (obviously). Looking forward to Windows 9.
cheers Chris Maunder
