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  • B BillWoodruff

    My sources tell me that a secret survey carried out by the Wampeter Group for Microsoft to assess the mass-psychological reaction to using "Windows 9" showed that a significant percentage of key decision makers ... people who could make the choice to move hundreds of thousands of machines in networks to the next version of Windows ... were World War II baby-boomers now in high executive positions. These decision-makers negative pre-cognitive reaction to "nine" was based on their memories of how significant Kurt Vonnegut's masterpiece, "Cat's Cradle" was in their adolescence, and the fact that, in the novel, "Ice9" [^] was the substance ... a polymorph of water solid at room temperatures ... that threatened mankind with extinction, and the the planet with frozen oceans. In addition the wide-variety of other cultural expressions that spun-off of Vonnegut's book over the following decades [^] all reinforced the contemporary meme of "something-followed-by-nine" as dangerous, toxic, even threatening apocalypse. Microsoft, like all other corporations these days ... aware of such classic marketing horrors as the flop of the GM "Nova" car in Spanish speaking countries ... "nova" in Spanish means "no go," conducts surreptitious research and surveillance, including testing subliminal insertions of content into television, and radio broadcasts: all of this, of course, sub-contracted out to multiply-nested layers of independent sub-contractors on a need-to-know in order to create plausible deniability. Of course, this is all further proof that this is the "best of all possible worlds."

    « I had therefore to remove knowledge, in order to make room for belief » Immanuel Kant

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    I have also heard speculation that it was due to the perception in Japan of '9' being an unlucky number.

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      BillWoodruff wrote:

      significant percentage of key decision makers

      Sounds like a granfalloon was involved. :sigh:

      Will Rogers never met me.

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      Granfalloon - Thanks for reminding me of this concept. :-D

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      • B BillWoodruff

        My sources tell me that a secret survey carried out by the Wampeter Group for Microsoft to assess the mass-psychological reaction to using "Windows 9" showed that a significant percentage of key decision makers ... people who could make the choice to move hundreds of thousands of machines in networks to the next version of Windows ... were World War II baby-boomers now in high executive positions. These decision-makers negative pre-cognitive reaction to "nine" was based on their memories of how significant Kurt Vonnegut's masterpiece, "Cat's Cradle" was in their adolescence, and the fact that, in the novel, "Ice9" [^] was the substance ... a polymorph of water solid at room temperatures ... that threatened mankind with extinction, and the the planet with frozen oceans. In addition the wide-variety of other cultural expressions that spun-off of Vonnegut's book over the following decades [^] all reinforced the contemporary meme of "something-followed-by-nine" as dangerous, toxic, even threatening apocalypse. Microsoft, like all other corporations these days ... aware of such classic marketing horrors as the flop of the GM "Nova" car in Spanish speaking countries ... "nova" in Spanish means "no go," conducts surreptitious research and surveillance, including testing subliminal insertions of content into television, and radio broadcasts: all of this, of course, sub-contracted out to multiply-nested layers of independent sub-contractors on a need-to-know in order to create plausible deniability. Of course, this is all further proof that this is the "best of all possible worlds."

        « I had therefore to remove knowledge, in order to make room for belief » Immanuel Kant

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        It has something to do with Bo Derek.

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        • B BillWoodruff

          My sources tell me that a secret survey carried out by the Wampeter Group for Microsoft to assess the mass-psychological reaction to using "Windows 9" showed that a significant percentage of key decision makers ... people who could make the choice to move hundreds of thousands of machines in networks to the next version of Windows ... were World War II baby-boomers now in high executive positions. These decision-makers negative pre-cognitive reaction to "nine" was based on their memories of how significant Kurt Vonnegut's masterpiece, "Cat's Cradle" was in their adolescence, and the fact that, in the novel, "Ice9" [^] was the substance ... a polymorph of water solid at room temperatures ... that threatened mankind with extinction, and the the planet with frozen oceans. In addition the wide-variety of other cultural expressions that spun-off of Vonnegut's book over the following decades [^] all reinforced the contemporary meme of "something-followed-by-nine" as dangerous, toxic, even threatening apocalypse. Microsoft, like all other corporations these days ... aware of such classic marketing horrors as the flop of the GM "Nova" car in Spanish speaking countries ... "nova" in Spanish means "no go," conducts surreptitious research and surveillance, including testing subliminal insertions of content into television, and radio broadcasts: all of this, of course, sub-contracted out to multiply-nested layers of independent sub-contractors on a need-to-know in order to create plausible deniability. Of course, this is all further proof that this is the "best of all possible worlds."

          « I had therefore to remove knowledge, in order to make room for belief » Immanuel Kant

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          Tomz_KV
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          High version number implies more changes.

          TOMZ_KV

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          • B BillWoodruff

            My sources tell me that a secret survey carried out by the Wampeter Group for Microsoft to assess the mass-psychological reaction to using "Windows 9" showed that a significant percentage of key decision makers ... people who could make the choice to move hundreds of thousands of machines in networks to the next version of Windows ... were World War II baby-boomers now in high executive positions. These decision-makers negative pre-cognitive reaction to "nine" was based on their memories of how significant Kurt Vonnegut's masterpiece, "Cat's Cradle" was in their adolescence, and the fact that, in the novel, "Ice9" [^] was the substance ... a polymorph of water solid at room temperatures ... that threatened mankind with extinction, and the the planet with frozen oceans. In addition the wide-variety of other cultural expressions that spun-off of Vonnegut's book over the following decades [^] all reinforced the contemporary meme of "something-followed-by-nine" as dangerous, toxic, even threatening apocalypse. Microsoft, like all other corporations these days ... aware of such classic marketing horrors as the flop of the GM "Nova" car in Spanish speaking countries ... "nova" in Spanish means "no go," conducts surreptitious research and surveillance, including testing subliminal insertions of content into television, and radio broadcasts: all of this, of course, sub-contracted out to multiply-nested layers of independent sub-contractors on a need-to-know in order to create plausible deniability. Of course, this is all further proof that this is the "best of all possible worlds."

            « I had therefore to remove knowledge, in order to make room for belief » Immanuel Kant

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            Earl Truss
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            The whole "nova" thing is an urban legend. It did not happen. http://www.snopes.com/business/misxlate/nova.asp[^]

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              Granfalloon - Thanks for reminding me of this concept. :-D

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              Don't forget the foma.

              We won't sit down. We won't shut up. We won't go quietly away. YouTube and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc.

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              • B BillWoodruff

                My sources tell me that a secret survey carried out by the Wampeter Group for Microsoft to assess the mass-psychological reaction to using "Windows 9" showed that a significant percentage of key decision makers ... people who could make the choice to move hundreds of thousands of machines in networks to the next version of Windows ... were World War II baby-boomers now in high executive positions. These decision-makers negative pre-cognitive reaction to "nine" was based on their memories of how significant Kurt Vonnegut's masterpiece, "Cat's Cradle" was in their adolescence, and the fact that, in the novel, "Ice9" [^] was the substance ... a polymorph of water solid at room temperatures ... that threatened mankind with extinction, and the the planet with frozen oceans. In addition the wide-variety of other cultural expressions that spun-off of Vonnegut's book over the following decades [^] all reinforced the contemporary meme of "something-followed-by-nine" as dangerous, toxic, even threatening apocalypse. Microsoft, like all other corporations these days ... aware of such classic marketing horrors as the flop of the GM "Nova" car in Spanish speaking countries ... "nova" in Spanish means "no go," conducts surreptitious research and surveillance, including testing subliminal insertions of content into television, and radio broadcasts: all of this, of course, sub-contracted out to multiply-nested layers of independent sub-contractors on a need-to-know in order to create plausible deniability. Of course, this is all further proof that this is the "best of all possible worlds."

                « I had therefore to remove knowledge, in order to make room for belief » Immanuel Kant

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                ...because Microsoft uses base 9. No other reason.

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                • G Gavin Lees

                  Windows nine wouldn't work too well in German speaking countries

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                  I had thought about the German meaning "no" when I heard it. I remember when Windows NT first came out (and did not work very well), the community said that NT meant, "Not Today". I think Microsoft would like to avoid those type of connotations again. Sure, they fixed up NT as they moved forward, but the "Not Today" moniker held on for a long time.

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                  • B BillWoodruff

                    My sources tell me that a secret survey carried out by the Wampeter Group for Microsoft to assess the mass-psychological reaction to using "Windows 9" showed that a significant percentage of key decision makers ... people who could make the choice to move hundreds of thousands of machines in networks to the next version of Windows ... were World War II baby-boomers now in high executive positions. These decision-makers negative pre-cognitive reaction to "nine" was based on their memories of how significant Kurt Vonnegut's masterpiece, "Cat's Cradle" was in their adolescence, and the fact that, in the novel, "Ice9" [^] was the substance ... a polymorph of water solid at room temperatures ... that threatened mankind with extinction, and the the planet with frozen oceans. In addition the wide-variety of other cultural expressions that spun-off of Vonnegut's book over the following decades [^] all reinforced the contemporary meme of "something-followed-by-nine" as dangerous, toxic, even threatening apocalypse. Microsoft, like all other corporations these days ... aware of such classic marketing horrors as the flop of the GM "Nova" car in Spanish speaking countries ... "nova" in Spanish means "no go," conducts surreptitious research and surveillance, including testing subliminal insertions of content into television, and radio broadcasts: all of this, of course, sub-contracted out to multiply-nested layers of independent sub-contractors on a need-to-know in order to create plausible deniability. Of course, this is all further proof that this is the "best of all possible worlds."

                    « I had therefore to remove knowledge, in order to make room for belief » Immanuel Kant

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                    Mark_Wallace
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                    I'm not upgrading until Windows 13, anyway.

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    • M matthewadams

                      ...because Microsoft uses base 9. No other reason.

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                      Simon ORiordan from UK
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                      Obviously it's Microsoft Time; "7 Windows Remaining; 8 Windows Remaining; 7 Windows Remaining; 10 Windows Remaining" *Cancel*

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                      • D DJ van Wyk

                        At what point will we have an integer overflow (taking into consideration the eventual progression of bitness in processors) and go back to calling it Windows 1 again?

                        My plan is to live forever ... so far so good

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                        DJ van Wyk wrote:

                        At what point will we have an integer overflow ..

                        It'll be a long time. And if their past history is anything to go by, it'll be Windows -2147483648 :)

                        We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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                        • R Roger Wright

                          BillWoodruff wrote:

                          significant percentage of key decision makers

                          Sounds like a granfalloon was involved. :sigh:

                          Will Rogers never met me.

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                          See the cat? See the cradle?

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                          • B BillWoodruff

                            My sources tell me that a secret survey carried out by the Wampeter Group for Microsoft to assess the mass-psychological reaction to using "Windows 9" showed that a significant percentage of key decision makers ... people who could make the choice to move hundreds of thousands of machines in networks to the next version of Windows ... were World War II baby-boomers now in high executive positions. These decision-makers negative pre-cognitive reaction to "nine" was based on their memories of how significant Kurt Vonnegut's masterpiece, "Cat's Cradle" was in their adolescence, and the fact that, in the novel, "Ice9" [^] was the substance ... a polymorph of water solid at room temperatures ... that threatened mankind with extinction, and the the planet with frozen oceans. In addition the wide-variety of other cultural expressions that spun-off of Vonnegut's book over the following decades [^] all reinforced the contemporary meme of "something-followed-by-nine" as dangerous, toxic, even threatening apocalypse. Microsoft, like all other corporations these days ... aware of such classic marketing horrors as the flop of the GM "Nova" car in Spanish speaking countries ... "nova" in Spanish means "no go," conducts surreptitious research and surveillance, including testing subliminal insertions of content into television, and radio broadcasts: all of this, of course, sub-contracted out to multiply-nested layers of independent sub-contractors on a need-to-know in order to create plausible deniability. Of course, this is all further proof that this is the "best of all possible worlds."

                            « I had therefore to remove knowledge, in order to make room for belief » Immanuel Kant

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                            iacopovettori
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                            I thougth it was just a bug. The first patch of the new O.S. will correctly rename it as "Windows 9"

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                            • B BillWoodruff

                              My sources tell me that a secret survey carried out by the Wampeter Group for Microsoft to assess the mass-psychological reaction to using "Windows 9" showed that a significant percentage of key decision makers ... people who could make the choice to move hundreds of thousands of machines in networks to the next version of Windows ... were World War II baby-boomers now in high executive positions. These decision-makers negative pre-cognitive reaction to "nine" was based on their memories of how significant Kurt Vonnegut's masterpiece, "Cat's Cradle" was in their adolescence, and the fact that, in the novel, "Ice9" [^] was the substance ... a polymorph of water solid at room temperatures ... that threatened mankind with extinction, and the the planet with frozen oceans. In addition the wide-variety of other cultural expressions that spun-off of Vonnegut's book over the following decades [^] all reinforced the contemporary meme of "something-followed-by-nine" as dangerous, toxic, even threatening apocalypse. Microsoft, like all other corporations these days ... aware of such classic marketing horrors as the flop of the GM "Nova" car in Spanish speaking countries ... "nova" in Spanish means "no go," conducts surreptitious research and surveillance, including testing subliminal insertions of content into television, and radio broadcasts: all of this, of course, sub-contracted out to multiply-nested layers of independent sub-contractors on a need-to-know in order to create plausible deniability. Of course, this is all further proof that this is the "best of all possible worlds."

                              « I had therefore to remove knowledge, in order to make room for belief » Immanuel Kant

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                              DaveCline
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                              It's a mistake. All the even versions of Windows have been losers. All the odd versions of Windows have been winners. Seriously, examine the history of Windows and this becomes obvious.

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                              • E Earl Truss

                                The whole "nova" thing is an urban legend. It did not happen. http://www.snopes.com/business/misxlate/nova.asp[^]

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                                Yeah, because Snopes is the ultimate bastion of truth. :rolleyes:

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                                • B BillWoodruff

                                  My sources tell me that a secret survey carried out by the Wampeter Group for Microsoft to assess the mass-psychological reaction to using "Windows 9" showed that a significant percentage of key decision makers ... people who could make the choice to move hundreds of thousands of machines in networks to the next version of Windows ... were World War II baby-boomers now in high executive positions. These decision-makers negative pre-cognitive reaction to "nine" was based on their memories of how significant Kurt Vonnegut's masterpiece, "Cat's Cradle" was in their adolescence, and the fact that, in the novel, "Ice9" [^] was the substance ... a polymorph of water solid at room temperatures ... that threatened mankind with extinction, and the the planet with frozen oceans. In addition the wide-variety of other cultural expressions that spun-off of Vonnegut's book over the following decades [^] all reinforced the contemporary meme of "something-followed-by-nine" as dangerous, toxic, even threatening apocalypse. Microsoft, like all other corporations these days ... aware of such classic marketing horrors as the flop of the GM "Nova" car in Spanish speaking countries ... "nova" in Spanish means "no go," conducts surreptitious research and surveillance, including testing subliminal insertions of content into television, and radio broadcasts: all of this, of course, sub-contracted out to multiply-nested layers of independent sub-contractors on a need-to-know in order to create plausible deniability. Of course, this is all further proof that this is the "best of all possible worlds."

                                  « I had therefore to remove knowledge, in order to make room for belief » Immanuel Kant

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                                  Bitbeisser
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                                  "There are 10 types of people, those that understand binary math and those that don't"... :laugh:

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                                  • B BillWoodruff

                                    My sources tell me that a secret survey carried out by the Wampeter Group for Microsoft to assess the mass-psychological reaction to using "Windows 9" showed that a significant percentage of key decision makers ... people who could make the choice to move hundreds of thousands of machines in networks to the next version of Windows ... were World War II baby-boomers now in high executive positions. These decision-makers negative pre-cognitive reaction to "nine" was based on their memories of how significant Kurt Vonnegut's masterpiece, "Cat's Cradle" was in their adolescence, and the fact that, in the novel, "Ice9" [^] was the substance ... a polymorph of water solid at room temperatures ... that threatened mankind with extinction, and the the planet with frozen oceans. In addition the wide-variety of other cultural expressions that spun-off of Vonnegut's book over the following decades [^] all reinforced the contemporary meme of "something-followed-by-nine" as dangerous, toxic, even threatening apocalypse. Microsoft, like all other corporations these days ... aware of such classic marketing horrors as the flop of the GM "Nova" car in Spanish speaking countries ... "nova" in Spanish means "no go," conducts surreptitious research and surveillance, including testing subliminal insertions of content into television, and radio broadcasts: all of this, of course, sub-contracted out to multiply-nested layers of independent sub-contractors on a need-to-know in order to create plausible deniability. Of course, this is all further proof that this is the "best of all possible worlds."

                                    « I had therefore to remove knowledge, in order to make room for belief » Immanuel Kant

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                                    They have skipped it because 9 means ripping your money through Jedi mind tricks in every language. Just think about the prices ending with 9.

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                                    • B BillWoodruff

                                      My sources tell me that a secret survey carried out by the Wampeter Group for Microsoft to assess the mass-psychological reaction to using "Windows 9" showed that a significant percentage of key decision makers ... people who could make the choice to move hundreds of thousands of machines in networks to the next version of Windows ... were World War II baby-boomers now in high executive positions. These decision-makers negative pre-cognitive reaction to "nine" was based on their memories of how significant Kurt Vonnegut's masterpiece, "Cat's Cradle" was in their adolescence, and the fact that, in the novel, "Ice9" [^] was the substance ... a polymorph of water solid at room temperatures ... that threatened mankind with extinction, and the the planet with frozen oceans. In addition the wide-variety of other cultural expressions that spun-off of Vonnegut's book over the following decades [^] all reinforced the contemporary meme of "something-followed-by-nine" as dangerous, toxic, even threatening apocalypse. Microsoft, like all other corporations these days ... aware of such classic marketing horrors as the flop of the GM "Nova" car in Spanish speaking countries ... "nova" in Spanish means "no go," conducts surreptitious research and surveillance, including testing subliminal insertions of content into television, and radio broadcasts: all of this, of course, sub-contracted out to multiply-nested layers of independent sub-contractors on a need-to-know in order to create plausible deniability. Of course, this is all further proof that this is the "best of all possible worlds."

                                      « I had therefore to remove knowledge, in order to make room for belief » Immanuel Kant

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                                      They didn't want Windows 9 < OS X, so they made Windows 10 == OS X.

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                                      • A Andrei Straut

                                        I think it's because they already know it'll be a crappy release, and they want to stick to the pattern: XP - good Vista - Bad 7 - Good 8 - Bad 9 - Should be good, but it'll be skipped 10 - Bad

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                                        That's old news - there was an Infoworld article saying that at the start of April last year... http://www.infoworld.com/article/2613504/microsoft-windows/microsoft-windows-microsoft-skips-too-good-windows-9-jumps-to-windows-10.html[^]

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                                        • B BillWoodruff

                                          My sources tell me that a secret survey carried out by the Wampeter Group for Microsoft to assess the mass-psychological reaction to using "Windows 9" showed that a significant percentage of key decision makers ... people who could make the choice to move hundreds of thousands of machines in networks to the next version of Windows ... were World War II baby-boomers now in high executive positions. These decision-makers negative pre-cognitive reaction to "nine" was based on their memories of how significant Kurt Vonnegut's masterpiece, "Cat's Cradle" was in their adolescence, and the fact that, in the novel, "Ice9" [^] was the substance ... a polymorph of water solid at room temperatures ... that threatened mankind with extinction, and the the planet with frozen oceans. In addition the wide-variety of other cultural expressions that spun-off of Vonnegut's book over the following decades [^] all reinforced the contemporary meme of "something-followed-by-nine" as dangerous, toxic, even threatening apocalypse. Microsoft, like all other corporations these days ... aware of such classic marketing horrors as the flop of the GM "Nova" car in Spanish speaking countries ... "nova" in Spanish means "no go," conducts surreptitious research and surveillance, including testing subliminal insertions of content into television, and radio broadcasts: all of this, of course, sub-contracted out to multiply-nested layers of independent sub-contractors on a need-to-know in order to create plausible deniability. Of course, this is all further proof that this is the "best of all possible worlds."

                                          « I had therefore to remove knowledge, in order to make room for belief » Immanuel Kant

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                                          The best reason I have seen on the web is the following:

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                                          A rather unique one was brought forth by a reddit user, claiming to be a Microsoft dev, /u/cranbourne. The user claims that calling it 'Windows 9' would result in errors with legacy code such as this: if(version.StartsWith("Windows 9")) { /* 95 and 98 */ } else { Looking at that, it seems rather wild. However, another user searched for this code, and found many examples of it online -- in software designed for Windows. Looking through the search, it does seem plausible. I first saw this in the subreddit /r/ProgrammerHumor, and could not make up my mind if it was not an elaborate joke. However, actually looking at some of the code in GitHub that has variations of this check, made me realize that, somehow, this is the theory that makes the most sense.

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