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  • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

    a take on someone else's "pun" Windows 8 Windows 8.1 (8 + 1 = 9) Windows 8.1 Update 1 (8 + 1 + 1 = 10) Windows 10

    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
    You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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    RachelMartin
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    I think a lot of people are misreading it as "Windows Ten". It's clearly "Windows Two".

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    • I irneb

      Just wondering ... seeing all the hype about it being SSSSOOOO "wonderful" ... did they think of it i.t.o. "It's a totally 'new' windows - like in Windows 2.0"? ... And then realizing: "That's already been used" ... And then some "brilliant" meeting participant "remembering" that "computers count in 1s & 0s" ... I can just imagine the sort of meeting (having had several of those myself - ending in me just hanging my head)

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      I thought that myself, but then I realized that Intel processors are little-endian. Which would make it "Windows One", surely?

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      • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

        a take on someone else's "pun" Windows 8 Windows 8.1 (8 + 1 = 9) Windows 8.1 Update 1 (8 + 1 + 1 = 10) Windows 10

        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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        zpinklb
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        It's a binary number and part of the new low-numbering scheme. XBOX ONE, Windows TWO. Makes sense. ;-)

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        • R RachelMartin

          I thought that myself, but then I realized that Intel processors are little-endian. Which would make it "Windows One", surely?

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          irneb
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          Exactly! That's one of the reasons I'd have just hung my head in that meeting ... not worth shaking!

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            It's a binary number and part of the new low-numbering scheme. XBOX ONE, Windows TWO. Makes sense. ;-)

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            irneb
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            So then you mean we can expect a 360 / 365 in the future (or should that be past)?

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            • I irneb

              So then you mean we can expect a 360 / 365 in the future (or should that be past)?

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              zpinklb
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              Will there be a future?

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                Will there be a future?

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                irneb
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                Good point! No counting of any chickens allowed (especially not with Microsoft's invention of a new numbering system)!

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                  Good point! No counting of any chickens allowed (especially not with Microsoft's invention of a new numbering system)!

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                  zpinklb
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                  M$ may find themselves in court again if they claim to have invented binary numbers! I'm pretty sure that claim has already been made by Apple and Samsung! ;-)

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                  • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                    a take on someone else's "pun" Windows 8 Windows 8.1 (8 + 1 = 9) Windows 8.1 Update 1 (8 + 1 + 1 = 10) Windows 10

                    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                    You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                    Member 8132010
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                    Windows 10 ie- Starts with a 1 (positive) and ends with a 0 (non-positive)- if it really follows Win8 :laugh: Hope it is more like a TEN- sportslike lucky number for all ;)

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                    • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                      a take on someone else's "pun" Windows 8 Windows 8.1 (8 + 1 = 9) Windows 8.1 Update 1 (8 + 1 + 1 = 10) Windows 10

                      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                      User 10646402
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                      My kids told me that MS had to use 10, because 7 8 9. :rolleyes:

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                      • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                        a take on someone else's "pun" Windows 8 Windows 8.1 (8 + 1 = 9) Windows 8.1 Update 1 (8 + 1 + 1 = 10) Windows 10

                        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                        Jeffrey Stacks
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                        I think it's because they introduced Windows 95 using the Rolling Stone's "Start Me Up". They're just trying to speed towards Windows 11 so they can use Spinal Tap's "Gimme Some Money".

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                        • S Super Lloyd

                          he probably means base 10, as in 8 + 1! ;P

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                          Wait until Visual Studio (15)9 comes out, all octal and hex references will have been removed to enforce the MS paradigm.

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                          • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                            a take on someone else's "pun" Windows 8 Windows 8.1 (8 + 1 = 9) Windows 8.1 Update 1 (8 + 1 + 1 = 10) Windows 10

                            If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                            You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                            Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                            Alexander DiMauro
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                            Maybe they are just Red Dwarf[^] fans. They skipped series 9. Series VIII - Back to Earth - Series X From the above link: "Red Dwarf series 9 is actually mentioned in Back To Earth as being the 'best season ever' by the sc-fi memorabilia shop owner. And earlier, when Lister reads the back of the DVD box for Back To Earth, it says, "Back To Earth takes place after series 10"." So, series 9 was the best, but never existed. Maybe now Microsoft will claim that Windows 9 was the 'best Windows ever!' without ever actually having to make it. :laugh:

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                            • J Jeremy Falcon

                              To make the adjustment more sensible, I say we just remove the number 9 from the face of the planet. It sucked anyway.

                              Jeremy Falcon

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                              mBuchwald
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                              9 is, amusingly, a 4 anyway.

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                                Wait until Visual Studio (15)9 comes out, all octal and hex references will have been removed to enforce the MS paradigm.

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                                Plamen Dragiyski
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                                So, when there will be base-9 notation support? :rolleyes:

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                                • L Lost User

                                  How can they be so sure that all ...

                                  if(version.StartsWith("Windows 1")) // Windows 1.0/1.1/etc.

                                  ... code is already out of production ;)

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                                  obermd
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                                  The languages that included the .StartsWith method didn't exist until later. Also, the installers for those programs are all 16 bit installers and won't run on current versions of Windows.

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                                  • D DJ van Wyk

                                    The topic discusses the number 9. In my view the number 8 is irrelevant in this context. But we can start using base-9 math if it will make you feel better.

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                                    DJ van Wyk wrote:

                                    But we can start using base-9 math if it will make you feel better.

                                    Well, he's right, the point of using base-8 was to remove the digit 9. Base-2 makes more sense since it is already an established base system extensively used and it doesn't have a 9 either. Computers don't have a 9 in their operating system, but that doesn't stop them from printing 9. We programmers seem to like base 10 so the program adjusts it to suit us dumb clucks on the other end of the screen. What, you can't tell at a glance what 10110001001101 is? If you can, wow, I'm impressed. I admit it, I can't. I can tell at a glance what 9 base 10 is in binary. In base 8, 9 (9 in base ten, hex, etc.) is 11. Back to that long number 2^10 is 1024, so 1024+2048+8192+64+8+4+1=11,341 (That was assuming the string of 1's and 0's were a base 2 number.) I calculated the numbers on the left in my head but the final number used the calculator. Too lazy to drag out pencil and paper or finger math from memory. Shoot, I mention finger math and I remember it) I also can't write out the decimal number without looking up on the web what comes up after a trillion, but I know it's a hundred and one of them. I'd also have to look up the British names too, but I think a trillion is the first that diverges from American standard names. Anyway, base 9 is the only base number that would display 9 as 10.

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                                    • D DJ van Wyk

                                      The topic discusses the number 9. In my view the number 8 is irrelevant in this context. But we can start using base-9 math if it will make you feel better.

                                      My plan is to live forever ... so far so good

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                                      KP Lee
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                                      DJ van Wyk wrote:

                                      The topic discusses the number 9. In my view the number 8 is irrelevant in this context.

                                      To be precise, the topic never discussed 9 except in the explanation of getting from version 8 to 10. The elephant in the room is that Microsoft's versions go from 8 to 10. Base 8 isn't a good explanation for that because then it should go from version 7 to 10 in that case. However, there isn't a really good explanation for Microsoft's naming conventions. Remember Windows 99? Well, if you're 15 or less, you wouldn't. (Maybe even 20 or less.) But that'd be a good explanation for the introduction of Windows 14, not 10. Even the "explanation" lists version 10 twice in the series, so this really should be version 11 by its logic. The best explanation is that Microsoft's naming convention is erratic and inconsistent. Don't expect it to make sense.

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                                      • D DJ van Wyk

                                        The topic discusses the number 9. In my view the number 8 is irrelevant in this context. But we can start using base-9 math if it will make you feel better.

                                        My plan is to live forever ... so far so good

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                                        KP Lee
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                                        Sorry, I don't remember Win 99, I do remember 96. I also remember Win 2000. So at one point their release names were associated to the year of release.

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                                          So, when there will be base-9 notation support? :rolleyes:

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                                          Member 10516230
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                                          Gosh, I hadn't thought it through that far. I'm sure it will be included in the VS (15)9 release - but perhaps someone with more free time than sense could bang a VS toolkit add-in together so we could get some early practice....

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