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  • K Keith Barrett

    Yesterday on the radio I heard Phil Collins arguing with Prof Brian Cox about whether the moon landings were faked. I get the same thing all the time from my own relatives. Isn't it about time someone went back to the Moon and so shut these idiots up? Anyone - the Chinese, the Indians, Elon Musk, whatever. Just a repeat of the Apollo 8 mission (without actually landing) ought to be cheap, and would at least prove that you don't get fried if you pass through the Van Allen belts. It's nearly the 50th anniversary after all.

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    Man it's hard to believe it's been almost 50 years. Wow where did the time go?

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      Keith Barrett wrote:

      without actually landing

      On the contrary, I believe that a landing is necessary. Give the idiots one way tickets and land them on the moon themselves proving once and for all that it actually happened.

      You can lead a developer to CodeProject, but you can't make them think. The Theory of Gravity was invented for the sole purpose of distracting you from investigating the scientific fact that the Earth sucks.

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      and land them on the moon themselves

      (half of them without suits, so the other half has something to talk about when they get back... Or maybe all of them without suits.) disclaimer: If you are a conspiracy nut, of course I don't mean you! I would never advocate killing people! But you could strap yourself to the outside of the capsule during takeoff, just to catch the full experience (again, no suit - who would want to sully such an exciting adventure with protective gear?).

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      • M Marc Clifton

        Besides proving we can still do it and employing a whole industry, going to the moon (again) seems like a complete waste of taxpayer money.

        Keith Barrett wrote:

        Phil Collins arguing with Prof Brian Cox about whether the moon landings were faked.

        On the other hand, I would be happy to have my tax dollars go towards education so that idiots like this, well, wouldn't be such idiots. Marc

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        Or maybe it could be funded through Kickstarter.

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        • K Keith Barrett

          Yesterday on the radio I heard Phil Collins arguing with Prof Brian Cox about whether the moon landings were faked. I get the same thing all the time from my own relatives. Isn't it about time someone went back to the Moon and so shut these idiots up? Anyone - the Chinese, the Indians, Elon Musk, whatever. Just a repeat of the Apollo 8 mission (without actually landing) ought to be cheap, and would at least prove that you don't get fried if you pass through the Van Allen belts. It's nearly the 50th anniversary after all.

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          See http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/18/nvidia-proves-moon-landing/

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            See http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/18/nvidia-proves-moon-landing/

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            Keith Barrett
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            The very fact that this is a computer simulation will just play into the hands of the sceptics. Someone needs to do it for real. And someone unconnected with the government of the USA.

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              What I particularly am amused by is how these conspiracy theorist idiots use 21st century CG to "prove" how easy it would be to fake the moon missions, not realizing that Hollywood in the 60's Star Trek was pretty much state of the art visual effects. You can actually see the wires hold up Nomad has he hovers around the corridors of the Enterprise! Marc

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              One may think that they at least could afford some more costly effects than on Star Trek when they were willing to let a huge rocket fly off to nownere before everyone's eyes.

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              • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                Man it's hard to believe it's been almost 50 years. Wow where did the time go?

                New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9. I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours!

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                Well 46 years since Apollo 8, to be precise. But that probably means that most people on Code Project were not born then!

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                • K Keith Barrett

                  Well 46 years since Apollo 8, to be precise. But that probably means that most people on Code Project were not born then!

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                  You're probably right all they know of the space program is the ISS. What a shame it was a wonderful time, full of hope and ambition...what happened to us? :(

                  New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9. I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours!

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                  • K Keith Barrett

                    Yesterday on the radio I heard Phil Collins arguing with Prof Brian Cox about whether the moon landings were faked. I get the same thing all the time from my own relatives. Isn't it about time someone went back to the Moon and so shut these idiots up? Anyone - the Chinese, the Indians, Elon Musk, whatever. Just a repeat of the Apollo 8 mission (without actually landing) ought to be cheap, and would at least prove that you don't get fried if you pass through the Van Allen belts. It's nearly the 50th anniversary after all.

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                    What they should do is just point the Hubble at the moon and take a picture of a rover or something just sitting on the moon. At least it will make a different picture for the APOD. :)

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                    • R RossMW

                      What they should do is just point the Hubble at the moon and take a picture of a rover or something just sitting on the moon. At least it will make a different picture for the APOD. :)

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                      I believe even the Hubble Telescope isn't powerful enough to do that. But photos of the landing sites have been taken by Lunar Orbiters: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/lroimages/apollosites.html[^] But of course that didn't convince the sceptics.

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                      • K Keith Barrett

                        I believe even the Hubble Telescope isn't powerful enough to do that. But photos of the landing sites have been taken by Lunar Orbiters: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/lroimages/apollosites.html[^] But of course that didn't convince the sceptics.

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                        I always thought it was because the Hubble is design to look at the edges of the universe and not something as close as your navel. Longsighted. I could be wrong, it won't be the first time!

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                          Wes Aday wrote:

                          and land them on the moon themselves

                          (half of them without suits, so the other half has something to talk about when they get back... Or maybe all of them without suits.) disclaimer: If you are a conspiracy nut, of course I don't mean you! I would never advocate killing people! But you could strap yourself to the outside of the capsule during takeoff, just to catch the full experience (again, no suit - who would want to sully such an exciting adventure with protective gear?).

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                          David O'Neil wrote:

                          all of them without suits

                          Why waste the money on suits?

                          You can lead a developer to CodeProject, but you can't make them think. The Theory of Gravity was invented for the sole purpose of distracting you from investigating the scientific fact that the Earth sucks.

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                            I always thought it was because the Hubble is design to look at the edges of the universe and not something as close as your navel. Longsighted. I could be wrong, it won't be the first time!

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                            No Hubble does not have sufficient resolving power. It would have to be tens of metres across to see the LEM on the moon. http://hubblesite.org/reference_desk/faq/answer.php?id=77&cat=topten[^]

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                            • K Keith Barrett

                              Yesterday on the radio I heard Phil Collins arguing with Prof Brian Cox about whether the moon landings were faked. I get the same thing all the time from my own relatives. Isn't it about time someone went back to the Moon and so shut these idiots up? Anyone - the Chinese, the Indians, Elon Musk, whatever. Just a repeat of the Apollo 8 mission (without actually landing) ought to be cheap, and would at least prove that you don't get fried if you pass through the Van Allen belts. It's nearly the 50th anniversary after all.

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                              i went to a party on the Moon last evening. It was crap... .. there just wasn't any atmosphere. I'll get my spacesuit

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                              • K Keith Barrett

                                Yesterday on the radio I heard Phil Collins arguing with Prof Brian Cox about whether the moon landings were faked. I get the same thing all the time from my own relatives. Isn't it about time someone went back to the Moon and so shut these idiots up? Anyone - the Chinese, the Indians, Elon Musk, whatever. Just a repeat of the Apollo 8 mission (without actually landing) ought to be cheap, and would at least prove that you don't get fried if you pass through the Van Allen belts. It's nearly the 50th anniversary after all.

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                                Keith Barrett wrote:

                                Yesterday on the radio I heard Phil Collins arguing with Prof Brian Cox

                                That's an easy argument to judge. Just completely disregard anything said by the idiot pop singer, and give some credence to the man who knows what he's talking about.

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                                • M Marc Clifton

                                  Besides proving we can still do it and employing a whole industry, going to the moon (again) seems like a complete waste of taxpayer money.

                                  Keith Barrett wrote:

                                  Phil Collins arguing with Prof Brian Cox about whether the moon landings were faked.

                                  On the other hand, I would be happy to have my tax dollars go towards education so that idiots like this, well, wouldn't be such idiots. Marc

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                                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                                  Besides proving we can still do it and employing a whole industry, going to the moon (again) seems like a complete waste of taxpayer money

                                  I disagree. I believe that "going to the moon again", with the objective of establishing a permanent human presence both in Earth orbit and on the lunar surface, represents three things. One, it would create a technological Renaissance like the Apollo program did. The dividends paid by the space program from the late 50's through the early 70's are almost incalculable. The inertia from that period is gone, however. It's been replaced by baroque excess (cell phones, for example). Two, we have multiple planet-wide crises that are presently sub-critical. Population growth, widespread warfare over ideologies and resources, and ever-increasing ineptitude by the predominant nations all threaten humanity's survival. While another 'Apollo' program wouldn't help those concerns directly, mammoth R&D efforts like that always produce unforeseen secondary benefits. Those benefits might alleviate or help manage some of these issues, at least in the short term. The most important aspect of such a program is it would in a generation or two create a human population with a unique perspective. Their loyalties would not necessarily be innately tied to a single nation-state, religion, or other such entity. Living in orbit, looking at Earth, they would see it as Armstrong and his 20 brethren have: our home. I think that perspective is a necessary prerequisite for humanity's survival on this planet.

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                                  • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                                    You're probably right all they know of the space program is the ISS. What a shame it was a wonderful time, full of hope and ambition...what happened to us? :(

                                    New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9. I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours!

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                                    Bastards like William Proxmire cut off our nation's balls. We ought to resurrect that fucker just so we can execute him for treason, not just to his country, but to the entire human race.

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                                    • K Keith Barrett

                                      Yesterday on the radio I heard Phil Collins arguing with Prof Brian Cox about whether the moon landings were faked. I get the same thing all the time from my own relatives. Isn't it about time someone went back to the Moon and so shut these idiots up? Anyone - the Chinese, the Indians, Elon Musk, whatever. Just a repeat of the Apollo 8 mission (without actually landing) ought to be cheap, and would at least prove that you don't get fried if you pass through the Van Allen belts. It's nearly the 50th anniversary after all.

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                                      Gary R Wheeler
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                                      Going back to the moon wouldn't convince them. Taking them there wouldn't convince them. Shoving them naked out the airlock onto the lunar surface wouldn't convince them, but would provide a certain amusement.

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                                        Going back to the moon wouldn't convince them. Taking them there wouldn't convince them. Shoving them naked out the airlock onto the lunar surface wouldn't convince them, but would provide a certain amusement.

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                                        I say steady on old chap! No-one should get thrown out of the airlock, however silly they are. I agree it wouldn't convince the hard-core swivel-eyed sceptics, but there are a lot of people who's basic argument is "If the Americans went in 1969 why haven't they gone back"? A repeat trip might convince them.

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                                          i went to a party on the Moon last evening. It was crap... .. there just wasn't any atmosphere. I'll get my spacesuit

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                                          I know - no atmosphere!

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