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  • D David ONeil

    Wes Aday wrote:

    and land them on the moon themselves

    (half of them without suits, so the other half has something to talk about when they get back... Or maybe all of them without suits.) disclaimer: If you are a conspiracy nut, of course I don't mean you! I would never advocate killing people! But you could strap yourself to the outside of the capsule during takeoff, just to catch the full experience (again, no suit - who would want to sully such an exciting adventure with protective gear?).

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    Lost User
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    David O'Neil wrote:

    all of them without suits

    Why waste the money on suits?

    You can lead a developer to CodeProject, but you can't make them think. The Theory of Gravity was invented for the sole purpose of distracting you from investigating the scientific fact that the Earth sucks.

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    • R RossMW

      I always thought it was because the Hubble is design to look at the edges of the universe and not something as close as your navel. Longsighted. I could be wrong, it won't be the first time!

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      Keith Barrett
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      No Hubble does not have sufficient resolving power. It would have to be tens of metres across to see the LEM on the moon. http://hubblesite.org/reference_desk/faq/answer.php?id=77&cat=topten[^]

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      • K Keith Barrett

        Yesterday on the radio I heard Phil Collins arguing with Prof Brian Cox about whether the moon landings were faked. I get the same thing all the time from my own relatives. Isn't it about time someone went back to the Moon and so shut these idiots up? Anyone - the Chinese, the Indians, Elon Musk, whatever. Just a repeat of the Apollo 8 mission (without actually landing) ought to be cheap, and would at least prove that you don't get fried if you pass through the Van Allen belts. It's nearly the 50th anniversary after all.

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        Lost User
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        i went to a party on the Moon last evening. It was crap... .. there just wasn't any atmosphere. I'll get my spacesuit

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        • K Keith Barrett

          Yesterday on the radio I heard Phil Collins arguing with Prof Brian Cox about whether the moon landings were faked. I get the same thing all the time from my own relatives. Isn't it about time someone went back to the Moon and so shut these idiots up? Anyone - the Chinese, the Indians, Elon Musk, whatever. Just a repeat of the Apollo 8 mission (without actually landing) ought to be cheap, and would at least prove that you don't get fried if you pass through the Van Allen belts. It's nearly the 50th anniversary after all.

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          Mark_Wallace
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          Keith Barrett wrote:

          Yesterday on the radio I heard Phil Collins arguing with Prof Brian Cox

          That's an easy argument to judge. Just completely disregard anything said by the idiot pop singer, and give some credence to the man who knows what he's talking about.

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          • M Marc Clifton

            Besides proving we can still do it and employing a whole industry, going to the moon (again) seems like a complete waste of taxpayer money.

            Keith Barrett wrote:

            Phil Collins arguing with Prof Brian Cox about whether the moon landings were faked.

            On the other hand, I would be happy to have my tax dollars go towards education so that idiots like this, well, wouldn't be such idiots. Marc

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            Gary R Wheeler
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            Marc Clifton wrote:

            Besides proving we can still do it and employing a whole industry, going to the moon (again) seems like a complete waste of taxpayer money

            I disagree. I believe that "going to the moon again", with the objective of establishing a permanent human presence both in Earth orbit and on the lunar surface, represents three things. One, it would create a technological Renaissance like the Apollo program did. The dividends paid by the space program from the late 50's through the early 70's are almost incalculable. The inertia from that period is gone, however. It's been replaced by baroque excess (cell phones, for example). Two, we have multiple planet-wide crises that are presently sub-critical. Population growth, widespread warfare over ideologies and resources, and ever-increasing ineptitude by the predominant nations all threaten humanity's survival. While another 'Apollo' program wouldn't help those concerns directly, mammoth R&D efforts like that always produce unforeseen secondary benefits. Those benefits might alleviate or help manage some of these issues, at least in the short term. The most important aspect of such a program is it would in a generation or two create a human population with a unique perspective. Their loyalties would not necessarily be innately tied to a single nation-state, religion, or other such entity. Living in orbit, looking at Earth, they would see it as Armstrong and his 20 brethren have: our home. I think that perspective is a necessary prerequisite for humanity's survival on this planet.

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            • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

              You're probably right all they know of the space program is the ISS. What a shame it was a wonderful time, full of hope and ambition...what happened to us? :(

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              Gary R Wheeler
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              Bastards like William Proxmire cut off our nation's balls. We ought to resurrect that fucker just so we can execute him for treason, not just to his country, but to the entire human race.

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              • K Keith Barrett

                Yesterday on the radio I heard Phil Collins arguing with Prof Brian Cox about whether the moon landings were faked. I get the same thing all the time from my own relatives. Isn't it about time someone went back to the Moon and so shut these idiots up? Anyone - the Chinese, the Indians, Elon Musk, whatever. Just a repeat of the Apollo 8 mission (without actually landing) ought to be cheap, and would at least prove that you don't get fried if you pass through the Van Allen belts. It's nearly the 50th anniversary after all.

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                Gary R Wheeler
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                Going back to the moon wouldn't convince them. Taking them there wouldn't convince them. Shoving them naked out the airlock onto the lunar surface wouldn't convince them, but would provide a certain amusement.

                Software Zen: delete this;

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                • L Lost User

                  i went to a party on the Moon last evening. It was crap... .. there just wasn't any atmosphere. I'll get my spacesuit

                  PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                  Keith Barrett
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                  I know - no atmosphere!

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                  • G Gary R Wheeler

                    Going back to the moon wouldn't convince them. Taking them there wouldn't convince them. Shoving them naked out the airlock onto the lunar surface wouldn't convince them, but would provide a certain amusement.

                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                    Keith Barrett
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                    I say steady on old chap! No-one should get thrown out of the airlock, however silly they are. I agree it wouldn't convince the hard-core swivel-eyed sceptics, but there are a lot of people who's basic argument is "If the Americans went in 1969 why haven't they gone back"? A repeat trip might convince them.

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                    • K Keith Barrett

                      I say steady on old chap! No-one should get thrown out of the airlock, however silly they are. I agree it wouldn't convince the hard-core swivel-eyed sceptics, but there are a lot of people who's basic argument is "If the Americans went in 1969 why haven't they gone back"? A repeat trip might convince them.

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                      Gary R Wheeler
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                      Keith Barrett wrote:

                      No-one should get thrown out of the airlock, however silly they are

                      Well, that's probably true. It represents a waste a perfectly useful bio-mass in your lunar ecology. In that case, recycle them into fertilizer.

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                      • G Gary R Wheeler

                        Bastards like William Proxmire cut off our nation's balls. We ought to resurrect that fucker just so we can execute him for treason, not just to his country, but to the entire human race.

                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                        Mike Hankey
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                        I think selling your country out is becoming fashionable, it's happening everywhere.

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                        • K Keith Barrett

                          Yesterday on the radio I heard Phil Collins arguing with Prof Brian Cox about whether the moon landings were faked. I get the same thing all the time from my own relatives. Isn't it about time someone went back to the Moon and so shut these idiots up? Anyone - the Chinese, the Indians, Elon Musk, whatever. Just a repeat of the Apollo 8 mission (without actually landing) ought to be cheap, and would at least prove that you don't get fried if you pass through the Van Allen belts. It's nearly the 50th anniversary after all.

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                          Keith Barrett
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                          Actually this is pretty much what I had in mind: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSE-Alpha[^]

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                          • M Mark_Wallace

                            Keith Barrett wrote:

                            Yesterday on the radio I heard Phil Collins arguing with Prof Brian Cox

                            That's an easy argument to judge. Just completely disregard anything said by the idiot pop singer, and give some credence to the man who knows what he's talking about.

                            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                            Richard Deeming
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                            Mark_Wallace wrote:

                            Just completely disregard anything said by the idiot pop singer,

                            Which one? :rolleyes:

                            Brian Cox[^]

                            ... had some fame in the 1990s as the keyboard player for the pop band D:Ream.


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                            • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                              Mark_Wallace wrote:

                              Just completely disregard anything said by the idiot pop singer,

                              Which one? :rolleyes:

                              Brian Cox[^]

                              ... had some fame in the 1990s as the keyboard player for the pop band D:Ream.


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                              So it's down to a choice between keyboard or drums?

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                              • D Dave Kreskowiak

                                All of the conspiracy theorists are idiots. Not one of them knows anything about radiation, shielding, photography, rocket engine blast in a vacuum, the capabilities of video capture back in the 60's/70's, or anything else! It pretty easy to tell that, YES!, we were on the moon. Look at all the video of the lunar rover. Have you ever noticed that there is absolutely no dust hanging in the "air" behind it as they drive around? It all falls directly back to the surface of the moon because there's no air to offer resistance to it as gravity pulls it back down. There isn't a single vacuum chamber on this planet that can hold a stage big enough to drive through like you see in the video!

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                                PhilLenoir
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                                It's amazing how many facts people will ignore when it contradicts their world view and how much they hang-on to garbage when it agrees with it. When I was a teenager there was a whole "death of Paul McCartney" conspiracy theory. The small observations, over-simplifications and exaggerations that went in to this were a lot of fun. I'm still not certain that John Lennon wasn't indulging in a bit of mischief in feeding this. The first person to post "you mean it wasn't real" will get a virtual smack on the back of the head!

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                                • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                                  You're probably right all they know of the space program is the ISS. What a shame it was a wonderful time, full of hope and ambition...what happened to us? :(

                                  New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9. I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours!

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                                  PhilLenoir
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                                  It's called age Mike (at least that's the excuse for a few of us!) :)

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                                  • K Keith Barrett

                                    So it's down to a choice between keyboard or drums?

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                                    PhilLenoir
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                                    What do you call a madman that hangs around with musicians ... a drummer! :P

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                                    • G Gary R Wheeler

                                      Going back to the moon wouldn't convince them. Taking them there wouldn't convince them. Shoving them naked out the airlock onto the lunar surface wouldn't convince them, but would provide a certain amusement.

                                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                                      PhilLenoir
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                                      It would also end a certain drummer releasing any more awful singles.

                                      Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                                      • P PhilLenoir

                                        It's called age Mike (at least that's the excuse for a few of us!) :)

                                        Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                                        Mike Hankey
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                                        PhilLenoir wrote:

                                        It's called age Mike (at least that's the excuse for a few of us!)

                                        Yes it is for me also, I was on my second tour in Viet Name when the man landed on the moon.

                                        New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9. I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours! Not my circus not my monkey's!

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                                        • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                                          PhilLenoir wrote:

                                          It's called age Mike (at least that's the excuse for a few of us!)

                                          Yes it is for me also, I was on my second tour in Viet Name when the man landed on the moon.

                                          New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead? Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9. I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours! Not my circus not my monkey's!

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                                          PhilLenoir
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                                          Of course, I was including you in the "us", and you and I are clearly not the only old farts on here!

                                          Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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