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  • M Matt U

    There are so many industries that software development and related services can apply to. I'm just curious what industries you all work in. I personally work in the healthcare industry, for a company that supports and manages various hospitals, physician practices, etc., around the United States. I've also done development in a manufacturing environment and in a letter shop/printing service. How long have you been in your industry, and do you still enjoy it? Before I landed my current role, I had been thinking for a while about how I would like to get into development in the healthcare industry. I don't know exactly what it is about healthcare that grabbed my interest, but I've loved it so far, though I've only been here for almost two months. It's a wonderful company, the work is plentiful, I have plenty of exposure to the latest technologies along with maintaining software built on older technologies. I feel confident that I will be able to grow here for a long time. The reason I say "specific industry" in the title is that I know there are so many industries, but some places don't necessarily specialize in one single industry. If you do contract/consulting work on your own, for example, you may work with all sorts of different industries.

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    Mark_Wallace
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    Several. Many companies believe that only people who have been trained in their field can work on software for them, but they're wrong.

    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      Chris, what's small water? ;P

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      Big water: H2O Small water: h2o ;)

      A positive attitude may not solve every problem, but it will annoy enough people to be worth the effort.

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        Several. Many companies believe that only people who have been trained in their field can work on software for them, but they're wrong.

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        I once worked for a company that believed only people with degrees could be programmers. So we had people with degrees in English, History, Art etc, who couldn't program their way out of a wet paper bag.

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          Big water: H2O Small water: h2o ;)

          A positive attitude may not solve every problem, but it will annoy enough people to be worth the effort.

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          gotit!

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          • M Matt U

            There are so many industries that software development and related services can apply to. I'm just curious what industries you all work in. I personally work in the healthcare industry, for a company that supports and manages various hospitals, physician practices, etc., around the United States. I've also done development in a manufacturing environment and in a letter shop/printing service. How long have you been in your industry, and do you still enjoy it? Before I landed my current role, I had been thinking for a while about how I would like to get into development in the healthcare industry. I don't know exactly what it is about healthcare that grabbed my interest, but I've loved it so far, though I've only been here for almost two months. It's a wonderful company, the work is plentiful, I have plenty of exposure to the latest technologies along with maintaining software built on older technologies. I feel confident that I will be able to grow here for a long time. The reason I say "specific industry" in the title is that I know there are so many industries, but some places don't necessarily specialize in one single industry. If you do contract/consulting work on your own, for example, you may work with all sorts of different industries.

            djj55: Nice but may have a permission problem Pete O'Hanlon: He has my permission to run it.

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            In chronological order; Concrete-industry (five years) Academics (Nope, didn't fit in there, 2 years tops) Pharmacy (Introduce a bug and kill someone) Oil-industry (Just for a year) Document Control / CAD (Two years and counting) I'm a developer. To the software it matters not which "industry" you are in. It is all simply data, all stored in a database, all fetched in a similar manner.

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            • M Matt U

              There are so many industries that software development and related services can apply to. I'm just curious what industries you all work in. I personally work in the healthcare industry, for a company that supports and manages various hospitals, physician practices, etc., around the United States. I've also done development in a manufacturing environment and in a letter shop/printing service. How long have you been in your industry, and do you still enjoy it? Before I landed my current role, I had been thinking for a while about how I would like to get into development in the healthcare industry. I don't know exactly what it is about healthcare that grabbed my interest, but I've loved it so far, though I've only been here for almost two months. It's a wonderful company, the work is plentiful, I have plenty of exposure to the latest technologies along with maintaining software built on older technologies. I feel confident that I will be able to grow here for a long time. The reason I say "specific industry" in the title is that I know there are so many industries, but some places don't necessarily specialize in one single industry. If you do contract/consulting work on your own, for example, you may work with all sorts of different industries.

              djj55: Nice but may have a permission problem Pete O'Hanlon: He has my permission to run it.

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              Matt U. wrote:

              letter shop/printing service.

              Been in this world for 15+ years. Started at the lower level - interfacing with Docutechs, sending mailmerged data down, etc... Slowly made my way into the front office. Now I'm doing almost exclusively intranet-based order management/crm stuff.

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                In chronological order; Concrete-industry (five years) Academics (Nope, didn't fit in there, 2 years tops) Pharmacy (Introduce a bug and kill someone) Oil-industry (Just for a year) Document Control / CAD (Two years and counting) I'm a developer. To the software it matters not which "industry" you are in. It is all simply data, all stored in a database, all fetched in a similar manner.

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                Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                To the software it matters not which "industry" you are in. It is all simply data, all stored in a database, all fetched in a similar manner.

                Except it's really not. Software can be tailored for an industry - processes, regulations and even laws may need to be understood and followed. Often times there are specific terms for specific industries. In my case, we're controlling really expensive and really powerful industrial machines that operate in a VERY flexible manner. Instructions and machine reactions need to be very well thought out with specific knowledge of the industry and the machine(s) involved.

                Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington

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                • M Matt U

                  There are so many industries that software development and related services can apply to. I'm just curious what industries you all work in. I personally work in the healthcare industry, for a company that supports and manages various hospitals, physician practices, etc., around the United States. I've also done development in a manufacturing environment and in a letter shop/printing service. How long have you been in your industry, and do you still enjoy it? Before I landed my current role, I had been thinking for a while about how I would like to get into development in the healthcare industry. I don't know exactly what it is about healthcare that grabbed my interest, but I've loved it so far, though I've only been here for almost two months. It's a wonderful company, the work is plentiful, I have plenty of exposure to the latest technologies along with maintaining software built on older technologies. I feel confident that I will be able to grow here for a long time. The reason I say "specific industry" in the title is that I know there are so many industries, but some places don't necessarily specialize in one single industry. If you do contract/consulting work on your own, for example, you may work with all sorts of different industries.

                  djj55: Nice but may have a permission problem Pete O'Hanlon: He has my permission to run it.

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                  Maximilien
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                  I've worked in 4 different industries. Computational Chemistry , Linguistics (automatic text correction), Entertainment (2D animation) and Engineering (metrology). But I've mostly been doing generic C++ framework and GUI work in all of those domains.

                  I'd rather be phishing!

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                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                    To the software it matters not which "industry" you are in. It is all simply data, all stored in a database, all fetched in a similar manner.

                    Except it's really not. Software can be tailored for an industry - processes, regulations and even laws may need to be understood and followed. Often times there are specific terms for specific industries. In my case, we're controlling really expensive and really powerful industrial machines that operate in a VERY flexible manner. Instructions and machine reactions need to be very well thought out with specific knowledge of the industry and the machine(s) involved.

                    Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington

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                    Mike Mullikin wrote:

                    Except it's really not.

                    Every damn niche thinks it is special.

                    Mike Mullikin wrote:

                    Software can be tailored for an industry

                    Software is built based on specs, so yes, it would be tailored. Regardless of the niche, it would be.

                    Mike Mullikin wrote:

                    processes, regulations and even laws may need to be understood and followed

                    Yes, but those simply translate to conditions that the developer checks. As long as there is a domain-expert (and no, my domain and industry is software development) I can model and build it.

                    Mike Mullikin wrote:

                    Often times there are specific terms for specific industries.

                    There's also specific terms if you are writing a debugger, or a password-manager. Those are translated to logic, and then to code.

                    Mike Mullikin wrote:

                    In my case, we're controlling really expensive and really powerful industrial machines that operate in a VERY flexible manner.

                    More flexible than say, a generic, programmable all-purpose machine?

                    Mike Mullikin wrote:

                    Instructions and machine reactions need to be very well thought out with specific knowledge of the industry and the machine(s) involved.

                    Yawn. Same goes for most industries; the price of errors can be high. Still your industry is a flow of information, and it is that flow that gets automated. As an analyst I do not need to be a domain-expert. Should not be in fact; one starts leaning on assumptions that the analyst recognizes.

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                      Mike Mullikin wrote:

                      Except it's really not.

                      Every damn niche thinks it is special.

                      Mike Mullikin wrote:

                      Software can be tailored for an industry

                      Software is built based on specs, so yes, it would be tailored. Regardless of the niche, it would be.

                      Mike Mullikin wrote:

                      processes, regulations and even laws may need to be understood and followed

                      Yes, but those simply translate to conditions that the developer checks. As long as there is a domain-expert (and no, my domain and industry is software development) I can model and build it.

                      Mike Mullikin wrote:

                      Often times there are specific terms for specific industries.

                      There's also specific terms if you are writing a debugger, or a password-manager. Those are translated to logic, and then to code.

                      Mike Mullikin wrote:

                      In my case, we're controlling really expensive and really powerful industrial machines that operate in a VERY flexible manner.

                      More flexible than say, a generic, programmable all-purpose machine?

                      Mike Mullikin wrote:

                      Instructions and machine reactions need to be very well thought out with specific knowledge of the industry and the machine(s) involved.

                      Yawn. Same goes for most industries; the price of errors can be high. Still your industry is a flow of information, and it is that flow that gets automated. As an analyst I do not need to be a domain-expert. Should not be in fact; one starts leaning on assumptions that the analyst recognizes.

                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                      I expect no less from a job hopper. Good luck! :rose:

                      Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington

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                        I expect no less from a job hopper. Good luck! :rose:

                        Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington

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                        Lost User
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                        Keep it, you might need it someday :)

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                          Matt U. wrote:

                          letter shop/printing service.

                          Been in this world for 15+ years. Started at the lower level - interfacing with Docutechs, sending mailmerged data down, etc... Slowly made my way into the front office. Now I'm doing almost exclusively intranet-based order management/crm stuff.

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                          Matt U
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                          The letter shop I worked for was my first major role in the professional world, so to speak. While I enjoyed the people I worked with, and I enjoyed the company's culture, it was very limiting. They're only about 13 years old, they're locally owned/operated, and they have about 75 employees total, in one local facility. They were very closed minded from a development standpoint. Limited to core technologies, like C#/.Net, some HTML and JavaScript. It was a wonderful place to really get my foot in the door in the development world. I don't have a bad thing to say about my experience there, other than I feel like I basically grew out of where I was. There wasn't really any room for advancement, because there were only about 15 people in IT altogether, so there was nowhere for me to go. The only software I ever got my hands into was their internal system that would parse clients' files (various formats including flat text, CSV, XML, etc.) and pass the data along to an existing service that would handle the rest. So I didn't get to do much there. I didn't want to be bored and halted in career growth.

                          djj55: Nice but may have a permission problem Pete O'Hanlon: He has my permission to run it.

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                            I once worked for a company that believed only people with degrees could be programmers. So we had people with degrees in English, History, Art etc, who couldn't program their way out of a wet paper bag.

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                            I've heard of places like that. I never understood the idea behind it. I once asked a tech recruiter why I didn't qualify due to the fact that I didn't have a degree, and he explained that it's not so much about the specific education, but more about the fact that it somehow "proves" that someone is dedicated. That they're responsible. That they're able to accomplish goals accordingly, in a timely manner. I still don't have a degree. I don't have a GED yet, because I made a bad move and dropped out of school after my junior year. Not proud of it, but it's true. However, I plan to obtain my GED in the near future, and possibly a degree, depending on how my employer feels it may affect me many years down the road when I move into a much higher position. I've always taught myself through experimentation and reading articles/tutorials, for about 16 years now since I was 11 years old. When I got into this job, they told me in the beginning that, when possible, they prefer someone who is self taught, because it definitely shows that you have a passion for it, and not just a piece of paper saying someone taught you generic concepts from a textbook. And I agree.

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                              I started my software career at a software consulting company (Science Systems) in the UK in '95, although my first programming course was in the early 70s. I've contracted in many fields, but I've been in an environmental regulatory agency for 12 years and it will be my last regular employment. Working here I feel like I've contributed to society and the work is very varied (hence the 12 years!)

                              Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                              Part of my goal of getting into healthcare was that I wanted to feel like I'm contributing something great to society. It's been an interesting month-and-a-half so far, and I don't anticipate anything pushing me away at all. 12 years is quite a long while! I've only been in the real professional world for almost 2 years. I did a large amount of development work for about 2 years in a warehouse environment, to support their processes and data entry, but I didn't have the official title of developer. And they didn't exactly treat me as a developer -- just as a regular warehouse associate, but with my own desk and PC. Haha. But I'm curious to see where I can go with this. I've been wanting to get to this point for about 8 years now!

                              djj55: Nice but may have a permission problem Pete O'Hanlon: He has my permission to run it.

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                                Part of my goal of getting into healthcare was that I wanted to feel like I'm contributing something great to society. It's been an interesting month-and-a-half so far, and I don't anticipate anything pushing me away at all. 12 years is quite a long while! I've only been in the real professional world for almost 2 years. I did a large amount of development work for about 2 years in a warehouse environment, to support their processes and data entry, but I didn't have the official title of developer. And they didn't exactly treat me as a developer -- just as a regular warehouse associate, but with my own desk and PC. Haha. But I'm curious to see where I can go with this. I've been wanting to get to this point for about 8 years now!

                                djj55: Nice but may have a permission problem Pete O'Hanlon: He has my permission to run it.

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                                Gratz on the recent job advancement and good luck!

                                Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                                  Gratz on the recent job advancement and good luck!

                                  Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                                  Matt U
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                                  Thanks, Phil. Good luck to you as well!

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                                  • M Matt U

                                    There are so many industries that software development and related services can apply to. I'm just curious what industries you all work in. I personally work in the healthcare industry, for a company that supports and manages various hospitals, physician practices, etc., around the United States. I've also done development in a manufacturing environment and in a letter shop/printing service. How long have you been in your industry, and do you still enjoy it? Before I landed my current role, I had been thinking for a while about how I would like to get into development in the healthcare industry. I don't know exactly what it is about healthcare that grabbed my interest, but I've loved it so far, though I've only been here for almost two months. It's a wonderful company, the work is plentiful, I have plenty of exposure to the latest technologies along with maintaining software built on older technologies. I feel confident that I will be able to grow here for a long time. The reason I say "specific industry" in the title is that I know there are so many industries, but some places don't necessarily specialize in one single industry. If you do contract/consulting work on your own, for example, you may work with all sorts of different industries.

                                    djj55: Nice but may have a permission problem Pete O'Hanlon: He has my permission to run it.

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                                    My current job, which I've held for 24 years, is working for a company that builds commercial ink-jet printers. I've also done a fair amount of work as an after-hours consultant. The common thread through all of it has been process control and real-time machine control. I enjoy what I do. I've worked at several layers in the product line, from device drivers to UI.

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                                      Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                      To the software it matters not which "industry" you are in. It is all simply data, all stored in a database, all fetched in a similar manner.

                                      Except it's really not. Software can be tailored for an industry - processes, regulations and even laws may need to be understood and followed. Often times there are specific terms for specific industries. In my case, we're controlling really expensive and really powerful industrial machines that operate in a VERY flexible manner. Instructions and machine reactions need to be very well thought out with specific knowledge of the industry and the machine(s) involved.

                                      Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington

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                                      I think it comes down to what you call yourselves, you are an engineer and Eddy is a software developer. You have very different concepts on what you do, you must be a domain expert as well as a developer, Eddy, and I, need domain experts to function as developers.

                                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                        There are so many industries that software development and related services can apply to. I'm just curious what industries you all work in. I personally work in the healthcare industry, for a company that supports and manages various hospitals, physician practices, etc., around the United States. I've also done development in a manufacturing environment and in a letter shop/printing service. How long have you been in your industry, and do you still enjoy it? Before I landed my current role, I had been thinking for a while about how I would like to get into development in the healthcare industry. I don't know exactly what it is about healthcare that grabbed my interest, but I've loved it so far, though I've only been here for almost two months. It's a wonderful company, the work is plentiful, I have plenty of exposure to the latest technologies along with maintaining software built on older technologies. I feel confident that I will be able to grow here for a long time. The reason I say "specific industry" in the title is that I know there are so many industries, but some places don't necessarily specialize in one single industry. If you do contract/consulting work on your own, for example, you may work with all sorts of different industries.

                                        djj55: Nice but may have a permission problem Pete O'Hanlon: He has my permission to run it.

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                                        Lets see Manufacturing - sewage pipes Technology - Hitachi and Wang Engineering Mining Construction Fruit Wholesaling Tyre Retailing Finance - Investments Health Systems (NHS) Back to Finance - Banking Specialisation is for ants.

                                        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                          There are so many industries that software development and related services can apply to. I'm just curious what industries you all work in. I personally work in the healthcare industry, for a company that supports and manages various hospitals, physician practices, etc., around the United States. I've also done development in a manufacturing environment and in a letter shop/printing service. How long have you been in your industry, and do you still enjoy it? Before I landed my current role, I had been thinking for a while about how I would like to get into development in the healthcare industry. I don't know exactly what it is about healthcare that grabbed my interest, but I've loved it so far, though I've only been here for almost two months. It's a wonderful company, the work is plentiful, I have plenty of exposure to the latest technologies along with maintaining software built on older technologies. I feel confident that I will be able to grow here for a long time. The reason I say "specific industry" in the title is that I know there are so many industries, but some places don't necessarily specialize in one single industry. If you do contract/consulting work on your own, for example, you may work with all sorts of different industries.

                                          djj55: Nice but may have a permission problem Pete O'Hanlon: He has my permission to run it.

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                                          Developing the Instrument Software for medical diagnostic instruments, currently working as Sys Admin in Charge for the Swiss Air Force.

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