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  • Sander RosselS Offline
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    Sander Rossel
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    So I spent an entire day moving everything from an old (gmail) email account to a new (gmail) email account. Google's poor support for email migration is sad to say the least... So after some work I almost got it how I want it, minor issues aside. After that I had quite some issues getting my new gmail to work on my phone. Appearently there's some obscure security setting that disables 'less secure apps'... After searching for a while I found it and turned it off. All I want now is sync my email and contacts with my Windows Phone. And then I learned Google simply stopped supporting Exchange ActiveSync last year. I had it on my old account, it's gone with my new account. That means my email is only synced at certain intervals and my contacts won't sync AT ALL! What the hell? Is being a pain in the other giant tech companies ass really more important than customer satisfaction? It basically makes either my Windows smart phone dumb or my gmail account quite useless... Plan B, I also have an outlook account, so I'll sync my gmail contacts to my outlook account and then sync the contacts from outlook to my phone... Except all of a sudden my phone won't recognize my outlook credentials. Why is everything so difficult? When will I be able to smile and enjoy life again? When does the hurting stop!? Next year I'm getting an Android phone.

    It's an OO world.

    public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
    {
    public void DoWork()
    {
    throw new NotSupportedException();
    }
    }

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    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      So I spent an entire day moving everything from an old (gmail) email account to a new (gmail) email account. Google's poor support for email migration is sad to say the least... So after some work I almost got it how I want it, minor issues aside. After that I had quite some issues getting my new gmail to work on my phone. Appearently there's some obscure security setting that disables 'less secure apps'... After searching for a while I found it and turned it off. All I want now is sync my email and contacts with my Windows Phone. And then I learned Google simply stopped supporting Exchange ActiveSync last year. I had it on my old account, it's gone with my new account. That means my email is only synced at certain intervals and my contacts won't sync AT ALL! What the hell? Is being a pain in the other giant tech companies ass really more important than customer satisfaction? It basically makes either my Windows smart phone dumb or my gmail account quite useless... Plan B, I also have an outlook account, so I'll sync my gmail contacts to my outlook account and then sync the contacts from outlook to my phone... Except all of a sudden my phone won't recognize my outlook credentials. Why is everything so difficult? When will I be able to smile and enjoy life again? When does the hurting stop!? Next year I'm getting an Android phone.

      It's an OO world.

      public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
      {
      public void DoWork()
      {
      throw new NotSupportedException();
      }
      }

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      Chris Maunder
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      We went through an exchange-to-GMail migration and it hurt, but generally worked OK. GMail on my iPhone works a treat, and the outlook connector for GMail syncs everything nicely. It's those magic, mystery settings that get you every time.

      cheers Chris Maunder

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      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

        So I spent an entire day moving everything from an old (gmail) email account to a new (gmail) email account. Google's poor support for email migration is sad to say the least... So after some work I almost got it how I want it, minor issues aside. After that I had quite some issues getting my new gmail to work on my phone. Appearently there's some obscure security setting that disables 'less secure apps'... After searching for a while I found it and turned it off. All I want now is sync my email and contacts with my Windows Phone. And then I learned Google simply stopped supporting Exchange ActiveSync last year. I had it on my old account, it's gone with my new account. That means my email is only synced at certain intervals and my contacts won't sync AT ALL! What the hell? Is being a pain in the other giant tech companies ass really more important than customer satisfaction? It basically makes either my Windows smart phone dumb or my gmail account quite useless... Plan B, I also have an outlook account, so I'll sync my gmail contacts to my outlook account and then sync the contacts from outlook to my phone... Except all of a sudden my phone won't recognize my outlook credentials. Why is everything so difficult? When will I be able to smile and enjoy life again? When does the hurting stop!? Next year I'm getting an Android phone.

        It's an OO world.

        public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
        {
        public void DoWork()
        {
        throw new NotSupportedException();
        }
        }

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        Mark_Wallace
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        OK, two things: 1. How happy would you be if some hacker decided to "migrate" all your personal stuff to a different e-mail account, and could do it all with just a few clicks? 2. Praise the lord that apple isn't involved in this mix.

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        • M Mark_Wallace

          OK, two things: 1. How happy would you be if some hacker decided to "migrate" all your personal stuff to a different e-mail account, and could do it all with just a few clicks? 2. Praise the lord that apple isn't involved in this mix.

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          Big Daddy Farang
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          #4

          Mark_Wallace wrote:

          apple isn't involved in this

          Well then it would just work, right? :laugh:

          BDF The internet makes dumb people dumber and clever people cleverer. -- PaulowniaK

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          • B Big Daddy Farang

            Mark_Wallace wrote:

            apple isn't involved in this

            Well then it would just work, right? :laugh:

            BDF The internet makes dumb people dumber and clever people cleverer. -- PaulowniaK

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            Mark_Wallace
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            #5

            Well, itunes would work -- but let's not talk about how fast or how efficiently or how much to the user's benefit.

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            • M Mark_Wallace

              OK, two things: 1. How happy would you be if some hacker decided to "migrate" all your personal stuff to a different e-mail account, and could do it all with just a few clicks? 2. Praise the lord that apple isn't involved in this mix.

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              Sander Rossel
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              1. It actually is that easy. Login to your old account and enable POP, login to your new account and sync all your email. The problem is that it doesn't sync labels making it a worthless tool since I use labels to organize my mailbox... Same goes for contacts, except that it doesn't sync photo's. I used a third party tool for the email which does copy labels and I guess I'll move my photo's manually... If a hacker gets a hold of my gmail password he can really mess things up and copy just about my entire life to his own computer. So why not make things as easy for me too? 2. Amen to that!

              It's an OO world.

              public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
              {
              public void DoWork()
              {
              throw new NotSupportedException();
              }
              }

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              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                1. It actually is that easy. Login to your old account and enable POP, login to your new account and sync all your email. The problem is that it doesn't sync labels making it a worthless tool since I use labels to organize my mailbox... Same goes for contacts, except that it doesn't sync photo's. I used a third party tool for the email which does copy labels and I guess I'll move my photo's manually... If a hacker gets a hold of my gmail password he can really mess things up and copy just about my entire life to his own computer. So why not make things as easy for me too? 2. Amen to that!

                It's an OO world.

                public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                {
                public void DoWork()
                {
                throw new NotSupportedException();
                }
                }

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                Mark_Wallace
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                This is all terra incognita to me; I've always used a local client, and downloaded everything to where I have control of it. I have a hard time trusting people who say things like "trust me" and "we do no evil".

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                • M Mark_Wallace

                  This is all terra incognita to me; I've always used a local client, and downloaded everything to where I have control of it. I have a hard time trusting people who say things like "trust me" and "we do no evil".

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  Sander Rossel
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  They'll keep a copy of your email on their servers anyway ;) I prefer to have access to my email from anywhere :)

                  It's an OO world.

                  public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                  {
                  public void DoWork()
                  {
                  throw new NotSupportedException();
                  }
                  }

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                  • C Chris Maunder

                    We went through an exchange-to-GMail migration and it hurt, but generally worked OK. GMail on my iPhone works a treat, and the outlook connector for GMail syncs everything nicely. It's those magic, mystery settings that get you every time.

                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                    Sander Rossel
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                    exchange-to-GMail migration and it hurt

                    I guess most migrations do. People generally dislike change, and now I know why.

                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                    It's those magic, mystery settings that get you every time.

                    And again next time! :sigh:

                    It's an OO world.

                    public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                    {
                    public void DoWork()
                    {
                    throw new NotSupportedException();
                    }
                    }

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