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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Personally, I'd rather dump SQL completely, and go for a binary interface that doesn't let idiots leave themselves wide open to SQL Injection - but that's just crazy talk!

    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    It'll never fly, Orville.

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    • C Chris Losinger

      writing code that writes code which gets interpreted at runtime in a black box is the modern way.

      image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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      OriginalGriff
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      I am sooooo tempted to have that as a sig! :laugh: :thumbsup:

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      • J Jorgen Andersson

        It's standardized since ISO SQL:2008 as the "FETCH FIRST" clause And it's starting to get support too, it's at the moment supported by atleast IBM DB2, PostgreSQL, Microsoft SQL Server 2012 and Oracle 12c.

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        Jörgen Andersson wrote:

        "FETCH FIRST"

        Isn't that only for cursors? Got a link to documentation?

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        • M Marc Clifton

          Why, after all these years, is there still no standard for basic features of SQL. For example, the syntax for returning only [n] rows. Top vs Limit[^] This sort of stuff drives me nuts, as it requires a call out to the specific DB interface to properly generate the SQL for specific DB provider. Argh. And if you want to do something more complex, like offsets and limits, this[^] is a fun read illustrating the syntax differences. Marc

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          PIEBALDconsult
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          I think the usage of TOP should be extended to include a SKIRT keyword to provide the OFFSET functionality.

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            Jörgen Andersson wrote:

            "FETCH FIRST"

            Isn't that only for cursors? Got a link to documentation?

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            Jorgen Andersson
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            Here[^]

            Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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              I think the usage of TOP should be extended to include a SKIRT keyword to provide the OFFSET functionality.

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              Jorgen Andersson
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              And don't forget the REMOVE clause.

              Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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                Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                "FETCH FIRST"

                Isn't that only for cursors? Got a link to documentation?

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                Jorgen Andersson
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                Naturally, MS messed up again by putting it together with the ORDER BY clause

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                • L Lost User

                  Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                  Everyone wants you to think "their way" is the best way.

                  When we all know, my way is the only way.

                  Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                  Michael Martin wrote:

                  When we all know, my way is the only way.

                  there is always, "the highway".

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    Why, after all these years, is there still no standard for basic features of SQL. For example, the syntax for returning only [n] rows. Top vs Limit[^] This sort of stuff drives me nuts, as it requires a call out to the specific DB interface to properly generate the SQL for specific DB provider. Argh. And if you want to do something more complex, like offsets and limits, this[^] is a fun read illustrating the syntax differences. Marc

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                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                    Why, after all these years, is there still no standard for basic features of SQL

                    There is a standard, as others will probably have pointed out. I've been using the ANSI 92 standard for personal projects; it is quite portable between different types of databases.

                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                    And if you want to do something more complex

                    ..then I would not ask the DAL to do so.

                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                      Why, after all these years, is there still no standard for basic features of SQL

                      There is a standard, as others will probably have pointed out. I've been using the ANSI 92 standard for personal projects; it is quite portable between different types of databases.

                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                      And if you want to do something more complex

                      ..then I would not ask the DAL to do so.

                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                      Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                      I would not ask the DAL to do so

                      Exactly, that's an application responsibility.

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                      • J Jorgen Andersson

                        And don't forget the REMOVE clause.

                        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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                        PIEBALDconsult
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                        That's applicable to the Basic Relational Architecture.

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                        • P PIEBALDconsult

                          That's applicable to the Basic Relational Architecture.

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                          Jorgen Andersson
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                          As is the Lookup Table

                          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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                          • J Jorgen Andersson

                            Here[^]

                            Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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                            RossMW
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                            Learn something new everyday... :)

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                              Learn something new everyday... :)

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                              Jorgen Andersson
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                              Sad is the day when you don't. :)

                              Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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                              • M Marc Clifton

                                Why, after all these years, is there still no standard for basic features of SQL. For example, the syntax for returning only [n] rows. Top vs Limit[^] This sort of stuff drives me nuts, as it requires a call out to the specific DB interface to properly generate the SQL for specific DB provider. Argh. And if you want to do something more complex, like offsets and limits, this[^] is a fun read illustrating the syntax differences. Marc

                                Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Higher Order Programming

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                                Speaking as someone who started out in COBOL: If you want a database, write one. The only reasons to use a database written by someone else are: a: If you have to integrate data with another system (in which case, you put your feet up and let them write the database). b: If you use one of the wussy languages that isn't COBOL.

                                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                • M Marc Clifton

                                  Why, after all these years, is there still no standard for basic features of SQL. For example, the syntax for returning only [n] rows. Top vs Limit[^] This sort of stuff drives me nuts, as it requires a call out to the specific DB interface to properly generate the SQL for specific DB provider. Argh. And if you want to do something more complex, like offsets and limits, this[^] is a fun read illustrating the syntax differences. Marc

                                  Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Higher Order Programming

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                                  EbenY42
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                                  Well this comes to mind :-D

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