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If you could only see the pain we go through to bring you CodeProject...

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  • D David ONeil

    I hope my email didn't push you over the edge! If it helps, the 'doing things the right way' never seems to be easy, and my next article update will reflect some of the difficulties on a project much different than yours. David

    My CodeProject Articles :: Our forgotten astronomic heritage :: My website.

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    David O'Neil wrote:

    'doing things the right way' never seems to be easy

    “It’s always easier to do it the hard way.” -- Blackhart

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    • C Chris Maunder

      ...you'd probably laugh mockingly and tell us we're doing it the wrong way. Ever have those days where you feel like you're trying to dig a drainage ditch with a toy shovel and what you really want is one of those whopping big diggers, to hell with the neighbour's yard. I also wonder, on evenings like this, what percentage stop and spend a couple of hours to research and implement the best way of doing something, and what just go ahead and do it in half the time with double the pain?

      cheers Chris Maunder

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      Jorgen Andersson
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      So start building it for people like me, that just want it to stay the same. :~

      Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.

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      • C Chris Maunder

        ...you'd probably laugh mockingly and tell us we're doing it the wrong way. Ever have those days where you feel like you're trying to dig a drainage ditch with a toy shovel and what you really want is one of those whopping big diggers, to hell with the neighbour's yard. I also wonder, on evenings like this, what percentage stop and spend a couple of hours to research and implement the best way of doing something, and what just go ahead and do it in half the time with double the pain?

        cheers Chris Maunder

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        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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        I hope it will ease your pain - I love CP (so maybe the hard-work wasn't futile...)!

        I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

        "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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        • C Chris Maunder

          ...you'd probably laugh mockingly and tell us we're doing it the wrong way. Ever have those days where you feel like you're trying to dig a drainage ditch with a toy shovel and what you really want is one of those whopping big diggers, to hell with the neighbour's yard. I also wonder, on evenings like this, what percentage stop and spend a couple of hours to research and implement the best way of doing something, and what just go ahead and do it in half the time with double the pain?

          cheers Chris Maunder

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          BillWoodruff
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          Madam Tina turned me on to this method of software development, Chris:

          "Why' know, every now and then
          I think you might like to hear something from us
          Nice and easy
          But there's just one thing
          You see we never ever do nothing
          Nice and easy
          We always do it nice and rough"

          [^]

          « There is only one difference between a madman and me. The madman thinks he is sane. I know I am mad. » Salvador Dali

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          • C Chris Maunder

            ...you'd probably laugh mockingly and tell us we're doing it the wrong way. Ever have those days where you feel like you're trying to dig a drainage ditch with a toy shovel and what you really want is one of those whopping big diggers, to hell with the neighbour's yard. I also wonder, on evenings like this, what percentage stop and spend a couple of hours to research and implement the best way of doing something, and what just go ahead and do it in half the time with double the pain?

            cheers Chris Maunder

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            Michael Gazonda
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            Chris Maunder wrote:

            I also wonder, on evenings like this, what percentage stop and spend a couple of hours to research and implement the best way of doing something, and what just go ahead and do it in half the time with double the pain?

            I would guess that the number is < 1%. Possibly far less. How about those whose way of doing things is to always do things the "best" way? Ok, I'll guess .00001%. I might be too generous though.

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            • C Chris Maunder

              ...you'd probably laugh mockingly and tell us we're doing it the wrong way. Ever have those days where you feel like you're trying to dig a drainage ditch with a toy shovel and what you really want is one of those whopping big diggers, to hell with the neighbour's yard. I also wonder, on evenings like this, what percentage stop and spend a couple of hours to research and implement the best way of doing something, and what just go ahead and do it in half the time with double the pain?

              cheers Chris Maunder

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              Sander Rossel
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              Hahaha, you're doing it the wrong way! :D

              It's an OO world.

              public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
              {
              public void DoWork()
              {
              throw new NotSupportedException();
              }
              }

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              • C Chris Maunder

                ...you'd probably laugh mockingly and tell us we're doing it the wrong way. Ever have those days where you feel like you're trying to dig a drainage ditch with a toy shovel and what you really want is one of those whopping big diggers, to hell with the neighbour's yard. I also wonder, on evenings like this, what percentage stop and spend a couple of hours to research and implement the best way of doing something, and what just go ahead and do it in half the time with double the pain?

                cheers Chris Maunder

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                GuyThiebaut
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                Chris Maunder wrote:

                I also wonder, on evenings like this, what percentage stop and spend a couple of hours to research and implement the best way of doing something, and what just go ahead and do it in half the time with double the pain?

                Been there done that, unfortunately even when you have done all the analysis and implemented the solution in the best manner there is always that one thing that was not communicated to you or the exception you were not told about that breaks your solution.

                “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                ― Christopher Hitchens

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                • L Lost User

                  Chris Maunder wrote:

                  you'd probably laugh mockingly sympathetically and tell us we're doing it the wrong way.

                  FTFY - we're not bad folk, really. Well, with some exceptions (you know who you are!)

                  Chris Maunder wrote:

                  what percentage stop and spend a couple of hours to research and implement the best way of doing something, and what just go ahead and do it in half the time with double the pain?

                  If a job is worth doing, it is worth doing well. as I've been told on too many occasions to count. So stop whinging and put in the hard yards !

                  PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                  PhilLenoir
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                  Chris has been mixing with too many Poms and has caught whingiitis.

                  Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                  • C Chris Maunder

                    ...you'd probably laugh mockingly and tell us we're doing it the wrong way. Ever have those days where you feel like you're trying to dig a drainage ditch with a toy shovel and what you really want is one of those whopping big diggers, to hell with the neighbour's yard. I also wonder, on evenings like this, what percentage stop and spend a couple of hours to research and implement the best way of doing something, and what just go ahead and do it in half the time with double the pain?

                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                    Paul M Watt
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                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                    ...you'd probably laugh mockingly and tell us we're doing it the wrong way.

                    Go check the wierd and wonderful forum and see if you're mentioned there ;) Otherwise, as long as you remember this pain, then it's a character building exercise. Now, think about all of the characters we have here at CP... does that help you feel better?!

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                    • B Brisingr Aerowing

                      What happened this time? Something gone out of kilter?

                      What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question? --- The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.

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                      Chris Maunder
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                      Nah - everything's fine (*cough* except for a small bug that's since been fixed *cough*) it's just that I have this deep seated guilt every time I do something big and complicated that I'm faking it and doing it all wrong. Are there really meant to be that many smoking holes in the floor? And was that pile of rubble there when we started? And what was all the screaming and yelling and running around about? Is that normal? *shrugs* /goes back to causing chaos...

                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        ...you'd probably laugh mockingly and tell us we're doing it the wrong way. Ever have those days where you feel like you're trying to dig a drainage ditch with a toy shovel and what you really want is one of those whopping big diggers, to hell with the neighbour's yard. I also wonder, on evenings like this, what percentage stop and spend a couple of hours to research and implement the best way of doing something, and what just go ahead and do it in half the time with double the pain?

                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                        jschell
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                        Chris Maunder wrote:

                        what percentage stop and spend a couple of hours to research and implement the best way of doing something

                        And what percentage of them realize that the research they did is probably meaningless in terms of real production systems?

                        Chris Maunder wrote:

                        Ever have those days where you feel like you're trying to dig a drainage ditch with a toy shovel

                        Most of the time I feel like I am digging a play pit in a sand box and I have lots of time to do it. Then every once in a while I get to implement the entire water, sewage, electrical and cable system for an entire city and it absolutely must be done in 3 days or less.

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