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  • C Chris Maunder

    The best place to discuss this is the Article writing[^] forum. If any article has been closed inappropriately it's extremely simple to post a message their and ask for help, or to email us at submit@codeproject.com and see what's going on. Lots of articles have links to working demos. It seems odd (and wrong) to have your article closed because of that. I'm happy to get this sorted out for you if you wish.

    cheers Chris Maunder

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    Lots of articles have links to working demos. It seems odd (and wrong) to have your article closed because of that. Thank you. To clarify, the articles were updated to have demo links removed, not closed. Otherwise, we are in agreement.

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    • C Chris Maunder

      The best place to discuss this is the Article writing[^] forum. If any article has been closed inappropriately it's extremely simple to post a message their and ask for help, or to email us at submit@codeproject.com and see what's going on. Lots of articles have links to working demos. It seems odd (and wrong) to have your article closed because of that. I'm happy to get this sorted out for you if you wish.

      cheers Chris Maunder

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      http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/4940745/Site-Driving-Modified.aspx[^] http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/4941455/Re-Extreme-heat-with-the-Solar-Death-Ray.aspx[^] I didn't see anything wrong with the articles, so I didn't report them. But, as we know, some people have itchy trigger-fingers. :sigh:


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      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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      • D DaveAuld

        Sounds like they have been nuked because they are all fragmented with various stuff spread around. A tip with a link or an article with just code is no use. You could have updated your tips to include the code, expand the narrative and then changed the type to an article.

        The Operator wrote:

        Thus, I've dropped the articles from the CodeProject library. My next projects and articles were to be geared towards Arduino experiments, but after having earlier articles neutered, I've lost motivation to share via CP.

        Don't lose motivation, just think about what and how you are trying to present material. I have a number of Arduino articles, maybe take a look at them to see how they have been constructed. Arduino Platform - SIMON Game Implementation[^] Arduino Platform - Interrupts Introduction[^] Arduino Platform - Differential Gap Control (Solar Tracker)[^] Arduino Platform - Working with Shift Registers[^] LightBlue Beans - Magic Beans and no beans[talk]?[^]

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        The articles and content were fine. Positive feedback was received with a few bookmarks. I removed the articles because someone decided that a link to show a working demo of the code somehow creates some sort of self-promotion for a page that does not contain ads and doesn't actually sell anything.

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        • D DaveAuld

          If you have concerns with what has happened, take it up with the CP team in http://www.codeproject.com/suggestions.aspx[^] or in the Article Writing forum[^] You can also refer to the Article Writing FAQ so you are clear on expectations, you can find it linked from this page; http://www.codeproject.com/info/Submit.aspx[^]

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          I have no concerns. I stated what transpired and asked the community if they have had a similar experience.

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            The articles and content were fine. Positive feedback was received with a few bookmarks. I removed the articles because someone decided that a link to show a working demo of the code somehow creates some sort of self-promotion for a page that does not contain ads and doesn't actually sell anything.

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            No it doesn't, but it also doesn't tell me very much about anything. If it had a title that said; "Below is an example of the gallery sample from the article "image Gallery Sample XYZ" over at CodeProject" and then linked back to the article it would make for sense.

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            • D DaveAuld

              No it doesn't, but it also doesn't tell me very much about anything. If it had a title that said; "Below is an example of the gallery sample from the article "image Gallery Sample XYZ" over at CodeProject" and then linked back to the article it would make for sense.

              Dave Find Me On:Web|Facebook|Twitter|LinkedIn Folding Stats: Team CodeProject

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              The link is an example that the "working demo" link isn't some way of trying to promote a particular product. Within the CP articles, I had "working demo" links to show users how the code will look when it works.

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              • D DaveAuld

                Sounds like they have been nuked because they are all fragmented with various stuff spread around. A tip with a link or an article with just code is no use. You could have updated your tips to include the code, expand the narrative and then changed the type to an article.

                The Operator wrote:

                Thus, I've dropped the articles from the CodeProject library. My next projects and articles were to be geared towards Arduino experiments, but after having earlier articles neutered, I've lost motivation to share via CP.

                Don't lose motivation, just think about what and how you are trying to present material. I have a number of Arduino articles, maybe take a look at them to see how they have been constructed. Arduino Platform - SIMON Game Implementation[^] Arduino Platform - Interrupts Introduction[^] Arduino Platform - Differential Gap Control (Solar Tracker)[^] Arduino Platform - Working with Shift Registers[^] LightBlue Beans - Magic Beans and no beans[talk]?[^]

                Dave Find Me On:Web|Facebook|Twitter|LinkedIn Folding Stats: Team CodeProject

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                Nice articles.. Arduino was what I wanted to do my next articles on. :(

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                • T Teraten

                  Nice articles.. Arduino was what I wanted to do my next articles on. :(

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                  Well there is nothing stopping you doing your next articles on them....

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                  • T Teraten

                    Lots of articles have links to working demos. It seems odd (and wrong) to have your article closed because of that. Thank you. To clarify, the articles were updated to have demo links removed, not closed. Otherwise, we are in agreement.

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                    So what would you like to do now? I, and it seems the majority of the community, would like to see your articles back. I've gone through your tips and can't see anything that violates our submission guidelines. I'll be happy to restore your articles for you, though it's your call. I do, however, hope to see your articles live again.

                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                    • T Teraten

                      -- Worked out the details regarding when external links are permitted vs. not permitted and clear minds prevailed -- :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

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                      I don't see any problem with the links you've used (although links to copies of jquery libraries on your own server would ring alarm bells, with me), but you could maybe explain things a little better. For example, in one of the articles, you refer to "My image page with over 1000 images". That too would ring an alarm, even though it is just a page with a set of sample images. But that's the point: had you described them as "A sample page with a set of 1000 SFW images", no bells would have rung, and no itchy trigger fingers would have done the dirty. One way of writing it makes people think "Oh! That's helpful!", while the other can make them think "What's he up to?" (And note that you would probably react the same way yourself, if reading articles by other people.) I would also comment that people look for articles because they don't know how to do something, so it's usually helpful to give more description of what the smarter lines of code do and the particulars of what the variables are for, but that's more to do with augmenting article-writing skills than with the topic at hand -- although lack of that kind of detail is something that we see all too often in "articles" by people with ulterior motives, so it can also ring an alarm bell. Don't be disheartened by what happened, but do analyse it by thinking "Why would alarm bells have rung, causing people to overreact?"

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                      • T Teraten

                        -- Worked out the details regarding when external links are permitted vs. not permitted and clear minds prevailed -- :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

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                        Jeremy Falcon
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                        What designates it as a tip or trick? I don't see much of anything saying it is one. The couple of links I checked out are great tips, but they don't really qualify as a real article. Not that it's related to the link issue, but hey I figured I'd throw that out there because that what programmers do.

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                        • T Teraten

                          The articles and content were fine. Positive feedback was received with a few bookmarks. I removed the articles because someone decided that a link to show a working demo of the code somehow creates some sort of self-promotion for a page that does not contain ads and doesn't actually sell anything.

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                          Jeremy Falcon
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                          I gotta agree with Dave man. It was more like a code dump. I have one such article myself, and deleted the rest. I left one because because it's still something more than a quick Googling will pull up. Code dumps have their place, but not as an article.

                          Jeremy Falcon

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                          • C Chris Maunder

                            So what would you like to do now? I, and it seems the majority of the community, would like to see your articles back. I've gone through your tips and can't see anything that violates our submission guidelines. I'll be happy to restore your articles for you, though it's your call. I do, however, hope to see your articles live again.

                            cheers Chris Maunder

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                            :~ Excellent, thank you. Can you restore the previously unedited versions? My apologies if I am coming off as taking it personal, but after putting effort into publishing tips and experiments, I was unsure how they would be received by the community (positive/negative). I received positive feedback. Some of the tips have been sitting around unedited for 6-8 months with bookmarks and high marks. Then, within the last day or two, :confused: they were suddenly edited. If it is good enough for March and May, then why edit them in November?

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                            • M Mark_Wallace

                              I don't see any problem with the links you've used (although links to copies of jquery libraries on your own server would ring alarm bells, with me), but you could maybe explain things a little better. For example, in one of the articles, you refer to "My image page with over 1000 images". That too would ring an alarm, even though it is just a page with a set of sample images. But that's the point: had you described them as "A sample page with a set of 1000 SFW images", no bells would have rung, and no itchy trigger fingers would have done the dirty. One way of writing it makes people think "Oh! That's helpful!", while the other can make them think "What's he up to?" (And note that you would probably react the same way yourself, if reading articles by other people.) I would also comment that people look for articles because they don't know how to do something, so it's usually helpful to give more description of what the smarter lines of code do and the particulars of what the variables are for, but that's more to do with augmenting article-writing skills than with the topic at hand -- although lack of that kind of detail is something that we see all too often in "articles" by people with ulterior motives, so it can also ring an alarm bell. Don't be disheartened by what happened, but do analyse it by thinking "Why would alarm bells have rung, causing people to overreact?"

                              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                              I don't mind alarm bells and feedback.. but the snooze button was hit for 6-8 months. Some of the tips have been sitting around unedited for 6-8 months with bookmarks and high marks. Then, within the last day or two, :confused: they were suddenly edited. If it is good enough for March and May, then why edit them in November?

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                              • J Jeremy Falcon

                                What designates it as a tip or trick? I don't see much of anything saying it is one. The couple of links I checked out are great tips, but they don't really qualify as a real article. Not that it's related to the link issue, but hey I figured I'd throw that out there because that what programmers do.

                                Jeremy Falcon

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                                They were listed as tips, not articles - sorry for the confusion, I updated the original post to clarify as "tips".

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                                • T Teraten

                                  I don't mind alarm bells and feedback.. but the snooze button was hit for 6-8 months. Some of the tips have been sitting around unedited for 6-8 months with bookmarks and high marks. Then, within the last day or two, :confused: they were suddenly edited. If it is good enough for March and May, then why edit them in November?

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                                  Mark_Wallace
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                                  That's one of the joys of a free and open Internet. It's Chaos theory; nothing makes sense.

                                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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