Microsoft updates... how many of you just allow them?
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So, there are several settings one can select: 1) Stay away from my machine you $itch! 2) Trust but verify. Show me what you think you want to do... 3) Hey baby, have your way with me, I trust you'll do the right thing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I normally run with item 2, my kids, because I simply don't have the time to keep up with their machines, run with item 3. But really, I'm leaning more to level 1. I've had some serious woes of late which seem to be video drivers... seem to be. How many of you had a good machine messed up by updates? I don't have any real evidence, nor do I have the time to elephant around with updates. :laugh: just got my little icon alert - more updates are waiting my approval.
Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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So, there are several settings one can select: 1) Stay away from my machine you $itch! 2) Trust but verify. Show me what you think you want to do... 3) Hey baby, have your way with me, I trust you'll do the right thing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I normally run with item 2, my kids, because I simply don't have the time to keep up with their machines, run with item 3. But really, I'm leaning more to level 1. I've had some serious woes of late which seem to be video drivers... seem to be. How many of you had a good machine messed up by updates? I don't have any real evidence, nor do I have the time to elephant around with updates. :laugh: just got my little icon alert - more updates are waiting my approval.
Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Option 2 for the same reason as most others, I've had issues with them twice in the last ten years, but if you keep your computer free of malware that's about all you get.
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So, there are several settings one can select: 1) Stay away from my machine you $itch! 2) Trust but verify. Show me what you think you want to do... 3) Hey baby, have your way with me, I trust you'll do the right thing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I normally run with item 2, my kids, because I simply don't have the time to keep up with their machines, run with item 3. But really, I'm leaning more to level 1. I've had some serious woes of late which seem to be video drivers... seem to be. How many of you had a good machine messed up by updates? I don't have any real evidence, nor do I have the time to elephant around with updates. :laugh: just got my little icon alert - more updates are waiting my approval.
Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Well, it's been my experience that MS updates are mainly stable. Installing at inopportune times is another matter :).
Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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So, there are several settings one can select: 1) Stay away from my machine you $itch! 2) Trust but verify. Show me what you think you want to do... 3) Hey baby, have your way with me, I trust you'll do the right thing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I normally run with item 2, my kids, because I simply don't have the time to keep up with their machines, run with item 3. But really, I'm leaning more to level 1. I've had some serious woes of late which seem to be video drivers... seem to be. How many of you had a good machine messed up by updates? I don't have any real evidence, nor do I have the time to elephant around with updates. :laugh: just got my little icon alert - more updates are waiting my approval.
Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
#2. And only critical updates, thank you. :) /ravi
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So, there are several settings one can select: 1) Stay away from my machine you $itch! 2) Trust but verify. Show me what you think you want to do... 3) Hey baby, have your way with me, I trust you'll do the right thing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I normally run with item 2, my kids, because I simply don't have the time to keep up with their machines, run with item 3. But really, I'm leaning more to level 1. I've had some serious woes of late which seem to be video drivers... seem to be. How many of you had a good machine messed up by updates? I don't have any real evidence, nor do I have the time to elephant around with updates. :laugh: just got my little icon alert - more updates are waiting my approval.
Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Might be a good suggestion for a poll. 2
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So, there are several settings one can select: 1) Stay away from my machine you $itch! 2) Trust but verify. Show me what you think you want to do... 3) Hey baby, have your way with me, I trust you'll do the right thing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I normally run with item 2, my kids, because I simply don't have the time to keep up with their machines, run with item 3. But really, I'm leaning more to level 1. I've had some serious woes of late which seem to be video drivers... seem to be. How many of you had a good machine messed up by updates? I don't have any real evidence, nor do I have the time to elephant around with updates. :laugh: just got my little icon alert - more updates are waiting my approval.
Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
I have never had one problem with a Microsoft update. I have them update critical fixes automatically and I control the rest. ...knock on wood. :-D
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So, there are several settings one can select: 1) Stay away from my machine you $itch! 2) Trust but verify. Show me what you think you want to do... 3) Hey baby, have your way with me, I trust you'll do the right thing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I normally run with item 2, my kids, because I simply don't have the time to keep up with their machines, run with item 3. But really, I'm leaning more to level 1. I've had some serious woes of late which seem to be video drivers... seem to be. How many of you had a good machine messed up by updates? I don't have any real evidence, nor do I have the time to elephant around with updates. :laugh: just got my little icon alert - more updates are waiting my approval.
Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
I recently encountered a case where an entire week was lost because M$oft neglected to consider the new H97 motherboards with isolated graphics adapters in one of their updates. A new driver from the video card manufacturer revealed the fault and an emergency update from M$oft corrected it. If I had known this was the case a lot of unnecessary email with a third party software supplier would have been averted.
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Option 3, weirdly I've never had any issues with Windows Updates. Seem to be in a minority.
I remember Microsoft. I still use it at work; our gatekeepers only allow through essential updates that are proven. At home I switched from Vista to Linux years ago and never really looked back, although I keep an old box with 7 on in the kitchen for out of the way jobs(like torrents). Every now and again I turn it on and just let it update. It would be of little consequence if I lost it.
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I recently encountered a case where an entire week was lost because M$oft neglected to consider the new H97 motherboards with isolated graphics adapters in one of their updates. A new driver from the video card manufacturer revealed the fault and an emergency update from M$oft corrected it. If I had known this was the case a lot of unnecessary email with a third party software supplier would have been averted.
Always 3 for my personal and development machines. 99% of updates exist for a good reason so I have no issue with letting them all in, they have never caused an issue. In fact WinUpdates have saved me and many other PCs I've dealt with from serious issues with drivers and security. The only time I've ever ignored an update is on fresh OS install where WinUpdate offers graphics drivers etc. While their ones usually work I prefer to get the latest, most correct drivers from the manufacturer themselves. Except on my Surface Pro 3, you definitely want to prefer windows updates to Intels generic driver!
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So, there are several settings one can select: 1) Stay away from my machine you $itch! 2) Trust but verify. Show me what you think you want to do... 3) Hey baby, have your way with me, I trust you'll do the right thing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I normally run with item 2, my kids, because I simply don't have the time to keep up with their machines, run with item 3. But really, I'm leaning more to level 1. I've had some serious woes of late which seem to be video drivers... seem to be. How many of you had a good machine messed up by updates? I don't have any real evidence, nor do I have the time to elephant around with updates. :laugh: just got my little icon alert - more updates are waiting my approval.
Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Alt 1.
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So, there are several settings one can select: 1) Stay away from my machine you $itch! 2) Trust but verify. Show me what you think you want to do... 3) Hey baby, have your way with me, I trust you'll do the right thing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I normally run with item 2, my kids, because I simply don't have the time to keep up with their machines, run with item 3. But really, I'm leaning more to level 1. I've had some serious woes of late which seem to be video drivers... seem to be. How many of you had a good machine messed up by updates? I don't have any real evidence, nor do I have the time to elephant around with updates. :laugh: just got my little icon alert - more updates are waiting my approval.
Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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So, there are several settings one can select: 1) Stay away from my machine you $itch! 2) Trust but verify. Show me what you think you want to do... 3) Hey baby, have your way with me, I trust you'll do the right thing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I normally run with item 2, my kids, because I simply don't have the time to keep up with their machines, run with item 3. But really, I'm leaning more to level 1. I've had some serious woes of late which seem to be video drivers... seem to be. How many of you had a good machine messed up by updates? I don't have any real evidence, nor do I have the time to elephant around with updates. :laugh: just got my little icon alert - more updates are waiting my approval.
Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
For machines I maintain for others, such as my work machine, or the system the family at home uses, it's (3) all the way. For my personal machines, I let it download, but I decide when to install. This helps me to avoid most of the broken updates until after MS has already fixed those they decide is worth their time to fix. I used to try to play the I'll-review-and-decide-if-I-want-it game, but I don't bother anymore because MS doesn't provide enough information to make informed decisions anyway.
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
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So, there are several settings one can select: 1) Stay away from my machine you $itch! 2) Trust but verify. Show me what you think you want to do... 3) Hey baby, have your way with me, I trust you'll do the right thing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I normally run with item 2, my kids, because I simply don't have the time to keep up with their machines, run with item 3. But really, I'm leaning more to level 1. I've had some serious woes of late which seem to be video drivers... seem to be. How many of you had a good machine messed up by updates? I don't have any real evidence, nor do I have the time to elephant around with updates. :laugh: just got my little icon alert - more updates are waiting my approval.
Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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So, there are several settings one can select: 1) Stay away from my machine you $itch! 2) Trust but verify. Show me what you think you want to do... 3) Hey baby, have your way with me, I trust you'll do the right thing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I normally run with item 2, my kids, because I simply don't have the time to keep up with their machines, run with item 3. But really, I'm leaning more to level 1. I've had some serious woes of late which seem to be video drivers... seem to be. How many of you had a good machine messed up by updates? I don't have any real evidence, nor do I have the time to elephant around with updates. :laugh: just got my little icon alert - more updates are waiting my approval.
Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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So, there are several settings one can select: 1) Stay away from my machine you $itch! 2) Trust but verify. Show me what you think you want to do... 3) Hey baby, have your way with me, I trust you'll do the right thing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I normally run with item 2, my kids, because I simply don't have the time to keep up with their machines, run with item 3. But really, I'm leaning more to level 1. I've had some serious woes of late which seem to be video drivers... seem to be. How many of you had a good machine messed up by updates? I don't have any real evidence, nor do I have the time to elephant around with updates. :laugh: just got my little icon alert - more updates are waiting my approval.
Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
I'm on 1 & 3. I'm normally on 1 until I need to install a SP. As I'm not normally connected to the internet on dev machines, it doesn't really matter. It is not a security problem if it doesn't have an external network. I do 3 before I install the SP. Once that is done, the machine is off the network until it needs another SP.
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For machines I maintain for others, such as my work machine, or the system the family at home uses, it's (3) all the way. For my personal machines, I let it download, but I decide when to install. This helps me to avoid most of the broken updates until after MS has already fixed those they decide is worth their time to fix. I used to try to play the I'll-review-and-decide-if-I-want-it game, but I don't bother anymore because MS doesn't provide enough information to make informed decisions anyway.
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
You know, the part about MS not providing enough information - this is what motivated me to post about this issue. I trailed along trying to determine exactly why they were patching. It was not possible.
Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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So, there are several settings one can select: 1) Stay away from my machine you $itch! 2) Trust but verify. Show me what you think you want to do... 3) Hey baby, have your way with me, I trust you'll do the right thing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I normally run with item 2, my kids, because I simply don't have the time to keep up with their machines, run with item 3. But really, I'm leaning more to level 1. I've had some serious woes of late which seem to be video drivers... seem to be. How many of you had a good machine messed up by updates? I don't have any real evidence, nor do I have the time to elephant around with updates. :laugh: just got my little icon alert - more updates are waiting my approval.
Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Option 3 on live production servers. Seriously, how much time do you guys have to manually check everything? We pay more for MS products so someone else does the checking right? Save me my time!!! Also, for the last 4 years, never been a problem on win server 2008 r2 (yes, it needs upgrading...) Yes, it reboots, but you can tell it what time of day to do that.