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    You're all probably going to think I'm stupid for asking this, but as you probably all think that anyway I've nothing to lose. But how does the Gas supply to your house work? Like I mean if I changed from British Gas to EDF today how does that physically work? I'm pretty sure that I haven't got a pipe that is connected direct to a British Gas plant that would be turned off and then EDF connect me up. I'm pretty sure I'd still be getting the Gas from the same facility, just I'd be paying someone else so how does this work?

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      You're all probably going to think I'm stupid for asking this, but as you probably all think that anyway I've nothing to lose. But how does the Gas supply to your house work? Like I mean if I changed from British Gas to EDF today how does that physically work? I'm pretty sure that I haven't got a pipe that is connected direct to a British Gas plant that would be turned off and then EDF connect me up. I'm pretty sure I'd still be getting the Gas from the same facility, just I'd be paying someone else so how does this work?

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      BillWoodruff
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      Follow the hoses attached to the rear of the nearby cows.

      «If you search in Google for 'no-one ever got fired for buying IBM:' the top-hit is the Wikipedia article on 'Fear, uncertainty and doubt'»  What does that tell you about sanity in these times?

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        You're all probably going to think I'm stupid for asking this, but as you probably all think that anyway I've nothing to lose. But how does the Gas supply to your house work? Like I mean if I changed from British Gas to EDF today how does that physically work? I'm pretty sure that I haven't got a pipe that is connected direct to a British Gas plant that would be turned off and then EDF connect me up. I'm pretty sure I'd still be getting the Gas from the same facility, just I'd be paying someone else so how does this work?

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        BillWoodruff
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        Follow the hoses attached to the rear of the nearby cows. No ! ... not that way ... away from the cows !

        «If you search in Google for 'no-one ever got fired for buying IBM:' the top-hit is the Wikipedia article on 'Fear, uncertainty and doubt'»  What does that tell you about sanity in these times?

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        • L Lost User

          You're all probably going to think I'm stupid for asking this, but as you probably all think that anyway I've nothing to lose. But how does the Gas supply to your house work? Like I mean if I changed from British Gas to EDF today how does that physically work? I'm pretty sure that I haven't got a pipe that is connected direct to a British Gas plant that would be turned off and then EDF connect me up. I'm pretty sure I'd still be getting the Gas from the same facility, just I'd be paying someone else so how does this work?

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          Physically nothing changes, you use the same gas, you are just paying someone else for the administration of your account. It's all a load of rubbish designed to make us believe that we have choice in where our fuel comes from.

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            You're all probably going to think I'm stupid for asking this, but as you probably all think that anyway I've nothing to lose. But how does the Gas supply to your house work? Like I mean if I changed from British Gas to EDF today how does that physically work? I'm pretty sure that I haven't got a pipe that is connected direct to a British Gas plant that would be turned off and then EDF connect me up. I'm pretty sure I'd still be getting the Gas from the same facility, just I'd be paying someone else so how does this work?

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            Slacker007
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            I think it all comes from the same location, but you pay a utility to use it. If you don't pay anyone, then it gets shut off. I know I am wrong on this, somewhere. :)

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              I think it all comes from the same location, but you pay a utility to use it. If you don't pay anyone, then it gets shut off. I know I am wrong on this, somewhere. :)

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              ZurdoDev
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              Quote:

              I know I am wrong on this, somewhere.

              That's OK. America is soft now. You still get a ribbon for participating. Good job!! :thumbsup:

              There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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              • L Lost User

                You're all probably going to think I'm stupid for asking this, but as you probably all think that anyway I've nothing to lose. But how does the Gas supply to your house work? Like I mean if I changed from British Gas to EDF today how does that physically work? I'm pretty sure that I haven't got a pipe that is connected direct to a British Gas plant that would be turned off and then EDF connect me up. I'm pretty sure I'd still be getting the Gas from the same facility, just I'd be paying someone else so how does this work?

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                DaveAuld
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                It is all the same gas, it is all the same network. When you are 'switching' all you are doing is changing who is managing your supply/usage account, i.e. who reads your meter, who bills you and who takes the money. Transco/National grid still own the network. Commodity suppliers then sell gas onto the market from the refineries etc. Read this: http://www2.nationalgrid.com/UK/Our-company/Gas/[^]

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                  You're all probably going to think I'm stupid for asking this, but as you probably all think that anyway I've nothing to lose. But how does the Gas supply to your house work? Like I mean if I changed from British Gas to EDF today how does that physically work? I'm pretty sure that I haven't got a pipe that is connected direct to a British Gas plant that would be turned off and then EDF connect me up. I'm pretty sure I'd still be getting the Gas from the same facility, just I'd be paying someone else so how does this work?

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                  Nagy Vilmos
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                  If I understand it correctly, National Grid manages the infrastructure up to the meter in your home. The company who bills you - Boiler Room Energy or whoever you use - pays National Grid for the energy it delivers to you and then charges a small mark-up [around 3.0e26%] for the privilege of being allowed to send you snotty letters because you failed to pay your bill even though they're charging you something akin to the cost of Bolivia's National Debt. I do not like the Energy Companies. :rolleyes:

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                  • L Lost User

                    You're all probably going to think I'm stupid for asking this, but as you probably all think that anyway I've nothing to lose. But how does the Gas supply to your house work? Like I mean if I changed from British Gas to EDF today how does that physically work? I'm pretty sure that I haven't got a pipe that is connected direct to a British Gas plant that would be turned off and then EDF connect me up. I'm pretty sure I'd still be getting the Gas from the same facility, just I'd be paying someone else so how does this work?

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                    Gizz
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                    Also, the meter is owned by your energy supplyer, BG or whoever. They are tasked with the safety of the meter and must inspect it every 2 years and replace it every 10 yesrs. Or thereabouts. When you change supplier, tadaa! The new supplier rents the existing meter from the original installer of the meter, as the meter ownership remains with the original supplier. This is all managed by a load of mainframes zapping messages between all the utility companies. To say its a dogs breakfast would be an understatement.

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                      Also, the meter is owned by your energy supplyer, BG or whoever. They are tasked with the safety of the meter and must inspect it every 2 years and replace it every 10 yesrs. Or thereabouts. When you change supplier, tadaa! The new supplier rents the existing meter from the original installer of the meter, as the meter ownership remains with the original supplier. This is all managed by a load of mainframes zapping messages between all the utility companies. To say its a dogs breakfast would be an understatement.

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                      Nagy Vilmos
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                      The system is a bit like the paper-boy business model. You pay the paper boy for your daily papers, he pays the supplier and pockets the difference. I got sacked from paper round as I forget the middle step. :laugh:

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                        If I understand it correctly, National Grid manages the infrastructure up to the meter in your home. The company who bills you - Boiler Room Energy or whoever you use - pays National Grid for the energy it delivers to you and then charges a small mark-up [around 3.0e26%] for the privilege of being allowed to send you snotty letters because you failed to pay your bill even though they're charging you something akin to the cost of Bolivia's National Debt. I do not like the Energy Companies. :rolleyes:

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                        Rob Philpott
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                        What really riles me is this concept that you have to be proactive and switch the whole time. Why can't they just send me a bill for the number of KWhs I've used like in the old days. Or two, on-peak and off-peak if you like. Instead there is an array of tariffs etc. designed to confuse and overcharge people. Why they don't legislate against this I have no idea. I have a friend who received a letter saying he would have saved £800 in the last year if he had been on an alternative tariff (same provider). This is just daylight robbery!

                        Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                          If I understand it correctly, National Grid manages the infrastructure up to the meter in your home. The company who bills you - Boiler Room Energy or whoever you use - pays National Grid for the energy it delivers to you and then charges a small mark-up [around 3.0e26%] for the privilege of being allowed to send you snotty letters because you failed to pay your bill even though they're charging you something akin to the cost of Bolivia's National Debt. I do not like the Energy Companies. :rolleyes:

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                          Oso Oluwafemi Ebenezer
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                          Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                          charges a small mark-up [around 3.0e26%]

                          That's too small, or am I just drunk? :-\

                          Osofem Inc

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                            The system is a bit like the paper-boy business model. You pay the paper boy for your daily papers, he pays the supplier and pockets the difference. I got sacked from paper round as I forget the middle step. :laugh:

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                            When I was a paper boy the newsagent paid me so much per round. I then used to spend most of it on his sweet counter! Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                              I know I am wrong on this, somewhere.

                              That's OK. America is soft now. You still get a ribbon for participating. Good job!! :thumbsup:

                              There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                              Jeremy Falcon
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                              RyanDev wrote:

                              That's OK. America is soft now. You still get a ribbon for participating.

                              Awesome! :laugh:

                              Jeremy Falcon

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                                Physically nothing changes, you use the same gas, you are just paying someone else for the administration of your account. It's all a load of rubbish designed to make us believe that we have choice in where our fuel comes from.

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                                R Giskard Reventlov
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                                What he said. I have a friend who brokers utility deals. It is just about pushing the money around. The gas all comes from the same place and is delivered via the same infrastructure (which, ultimately, the tax payer paid for).

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                                  You're all probably going to think I'm stupid for asking this, but as you probably all think that anyway I've nothing to lose. But how does the Gas supply to your house work? Like I mean if I changed from British Gas to EDF today how does that physically work? I'm pretty sure that I haven't got a pipe that is connected direct to a British Gas plant that would be turned off and then EDF connect me up. I'm pretty sure I'd still be getting the Gas from the same facility, just I'd be paying someone else so how does this work?

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                                  Rage
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                                  Works the same as for ISPs : same phone line used by different company.

                                  ~RaGE();

                                  I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                                    You're all probably going to think I'm stupid for asking this, but as you probably all think that anyway I've nothing to lose. But how does the Gas supply to your house work? Like I mean if I changed from British Gas to EDF today how does that physically work? I'm pretty sure that I haven't got a pipe that is connected direct to a British Gas plant that would be turned off and then EDF connect me up. I'm pretty sure I'd still be getting the Gas from the same facility, just I'd be paying someone else so how does this work?

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                                    Mark_Wallace
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                                    All that happens is that someone else, at an identical desk in an identical office, counts the beans (presumably the beans that produced the gas).

                                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                      Physically nothing changes, you use the same gas, you are just paying someone else for the administration of your account. It's all a load of rubbish designed to make us believe that we have choice in where our fuel comes from.

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                                      Yeah this was what I was driving at as being the case. So what's stopping me from starting a company called PompeyGas and getting a share of the pie? I expect it's because I didn't go to Eton and I'm not a friend of David Cameron.

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                                        I know I am wrong on this, somewhere.

                                        That's OK. America is soft now. You still get a ribbon for participating. Good job!! :thumbsup:

                                        There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                        Does he get to chant USA! USA! USA! when he receives the ribbon?

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                                          It is all the same gas, it is all the same network. When you are 'switching' all you are doing is changing who is managing your supply/usage account, i.e. who reads your meter, who bills you and who takes the money. Transco/National grid still own the network. Commodity suppliers then sell gas onto the market from the refineries etc. Read this: http://www2.nationalgrid.com/UK/Our-company/Gas/[^]

                                          Dave Find Me On:Web|Facebook|Twitter|LinkedIn Folding Stats: Team CodeProject

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                                          Thanks for the link.

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