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  • S Simon ORiordan from UK

    Here we go:[](Americas First Computer)http://www.wired.com/2014/11/eniac-unearthed While we think 'the world' of Americans, they really must resist being so inbred; the World's First Computer was Collossus at Bletchley Park, or even Charles Babbage's 'Difference Engine'. There there. Eniac was America's First Computer. :laugh:

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    I'm tired of the British always trying to steal American glory. If it were up to this American we'd of never introduced tea to the British Isles.

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      Keith Barrow wrote:

      indigenous populations

      Even they came over on the B Ark.

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      This also.

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      The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

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      • S Simon ORiordan from UK

        Here we go:[](Americas First Computer)http://www.wired.com/2014/11/eniac-unearthed While we think 'the world' of Americans, they really must resist being so inbred; the World's First Computer was Collossus at Bletchley Park, or even Charles Babbage's 'Difference Engine'. There there. Eniac was America's First Computer. :laugh:

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        Jorgen Andersson
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        Hmm, lets see. Z3 was the world's first working programmable, fully automatic digital computer. (1941) Colossus is the world's first electronic digital computer that was programmable. (1944) Eniac is the first electronic general-purpose computer. (1946) Are everyone satisfied now? :laugh:

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          Hmm, lets see. Z3 was the world's first working programmable, fully automatic digital computer. (1941) Colossus is the world's first electronic digital computer that was programmable. (1944) Eniac is the first electronic general-purpose computer. (1946) Are everyone satisfied now? :laugh:

          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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          Um...maybe not. I'd be tempted to throw the Jacquard Loom[^] into the picture: programmable, digital, working (and still in use in some places) - invented in 1801 - and kick started the Industrial Revolution.

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            Um...maybe not. I'd be tempted to throw the Jacquard Loom[^] into the picture: programmable, digital, working (and still in use in some places) - invented in 1801 - and kick started the Industrial Revolution.

            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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            Jorgen Andersson
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            I thought "computer" was the keyword. :)

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              I thought "computer" was the keyword. :)

              Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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              You can program it, it has input and output - heck, it's even got a graphics display(if a bit low resolution, unless it is working with really fine silk). What does a computer do that this doesn't? (Apart from play Doom :laugh: )

              Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                You can program it, it has input and output - heck, it's even got a graphics display(if a bit low resolution, unless it is working with really fine silk). What does a computer do that this doesn't? (Apart from play Doom :laugh: )

                Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                Jorgen Andersson
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                I was going to say that you can't use it for calculations, but I know it would hit back on me. You probably could play Doom on it, even if very slowly. So, what's the definition of Computer?

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                • S Simon ORiordan from UK

                  Here we go:[](Americas First Computer)http://www.wired.com/2014/11/eniac-unearthed While we think 'the world' of Americans, they really must resist being so inbred; the World's First Computer was Collossus at Bletchley Park, or even Charles Babbage's 'Difference Engine'. There there. Eniac was America's First Computer. :laugh:

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                  The first "modern" computer build the german civil engineer Konrad Zuse. A memorial in Berlin (Germany) .

                  Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                    Keith Barrow wrote:

                    indigenous populations

                    Even they came over on the B Ark.

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                    Nice to know we're all descended from prehistoric hairdressers, account executives, and telephone sanitizers, huh?

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      You can program it, it has input and output - heck, it's even got a graphics display(if a bit low resolution, unless it is working with really fine silk). What does a computer do that this doesn't? (Apart from play Doom :laugh: )

                      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                      OriginalGriff wrote:

                      What does a computer do that this doesn't? (Apart from play Doom :laugh: )

                      We can't say for sure if we didn't try. The result would be one of a kind cloth :D

                      Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true

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                      • J Jorgen Andersson

                        I was going to say that you can't use it for calculations, but I know it would hit back on me. You probably could play Doom on it, even if very slowly. So, what's the definition of Computer?

                        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                        Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                        So, what's the definition of Computer?

                        A machine that makes humans waste their lives arguing about semantics. ;)

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                        • S Simon ORiordan from UK

                          Here we go:[](Americas First Computer)http://www.wired.com/2014/11/eniac-unearthed While we think 'the world' of Americans, they really must resist being so inbred; the World's First Computer was Collossus at Bletchley Park, or even Charles Babbage's 'Difference Engine'. There there. Eniac was America's First Computer. :laugh:

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                          Interesting article. I've seen the one at the Smithsonian, it's pretty cool.

                          New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 There's a fine line between crazy and free spirited and it's usually a prescription. I'm currently unsupervised, I know it freaks me out too but the possibilities are endless.

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                            The first "modern" computer build the german civil engineer Konrad Zuse. A memorial in Berlin (Germany) .

                            Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                            den2k88
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                            Wow. Thanks for dissipating some of my ignorance :)

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                            • J Jorgen Andersson

                              I was going to say that you can't use it for calculations, but I know it would hit back on me. You probably could play Doom on it, even if very slowly. So, what's the definition of Computer?

                              Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                              I don't know! Google defines it as: "an electronic device which is capable of receiving information (data) in a particular form and of performing a sequence of operations in accordance with a predetermined but variable set of procedural instructions (program) to produce a result in the form of information or signals." But Wiki says: "A computer is a general purpose device that can be programmed to carry out a set of arithmetic or logical operations automatically. Since a sequence of operations can be readily changed, the computer can solve more than one kind of problem." And I have to say that the google definition is closer to my ideal! But...the "electronic" bit would exclude the Jacquard Loom - and also the Babbage Difference Engine. Removing that would remove Ada Lovelace from the role of "first programmer" and I'm pretty sure she deserves that title! So my feeling is that the Google definition (sans one word) fits a computer well - and also the loom. You have to remember that all out modern computers are based on devices which worked solely from punched cards - which started life as a data storage media, which were derived from the loom! :laugh: As usual, the "Search for Beginnings" is complicated...

                              Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                OriginalGriff wrote:

                                What does a computer do that this doesn't? (Apart from play Doom :laugh: )

                                We can't say for sure if we didn't try. The result would be one of a kind cloth :D

                                Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true

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                                I think the ping time would make it kinda difficult to play! :laugh:

                                Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                  Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                  So, what's the definition of Computer?

                                  A machine that makes humans waste their lives arguing about semantics. ;)

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                                  Must resist upvoting... Failed again. :)

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                                  • I Ian Shlasko

                                    Nice to know we're all descended from prehistoric hairdressers, account executives, and telephone sanitizers, huh?

                                    Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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                                    Corporal Agarn
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                                    Oh, put a towel on it.

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                                    • S Simon ORiordan from UK

                                      Here we go:[](Americas First Computer)http://www.wired.com/2014/11/eniac-unearthed While we think 'the world' of Americans, they really must resist being so inbred; the World's First Computer was Collossus at Bletchley Park, or even Charles Babbage's 'Difference Engine'. There there. Eniac was America's First Computer. :laugh:

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                                      Marc Clifton
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                                      Leslie[^] ;) Kent beat you to it. Marc

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                                      • I Ian Shlasko

                                        Nice to know we're all descended from prehistoric hairdressers, account executives, and telephone sanitizers, huh?

                                        Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                                        Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                                        den2k88
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                                        It took me half an hour to get that reference. In my defense I can only say I read it in Italian and not in English, still... shame on me!

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                                          Hmm, lets see. Z3 was the world's first working programmable, fully automatic digital computer. (1941) Colossus is the world's first electronic digital computer that was programmable. (1944) Eniac is the first electronic general-purpose computer. (1946) Are everyone satisfied now? :laugh:

                                          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                                          Simon ORiordan from UK
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                                          Quite right, I was aware of the German work. Forgot it was called the Z3. The Nazis didn't see what it was good for. Destroyed by bombing if I remember. Another first.

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